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Re: 909/1000 Build thread


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197386 posted 12/26/14 04:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Anyone know where I can get a new weather strip or if they make a aftermarket replacement for it?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197482 posted 12/28/14 02:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have one if you need it. Stock trim off 1388. Text me @518.469.8663

Also love the KG. and the way your build is turning out!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198197 posted 01/06/15 06:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is probably going to be happening..4 piece billet intake manifold.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198198 posted 01/06/15 06:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I may toy with this....its a barrel style throttle body built into the runners.


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198200 posted 01/06/15 07:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That second design is very interesting.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198201 posted 01/06/15 07:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
if its what i think it is. it should eliminate any restriction at the throttle shaft as there would be nothing.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198211 posted 01/06/15 09:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Correct. The problem I would run into is all the vac lines that are built into the plenum on a normal intake...I may look into building a vac tank to come off of it somewhere to take care of that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198219 posted 01/06/15 10:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is a great build. Really good at paying attention to detail. Looking forward to see your results.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198231 posted 01/07/15 05:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
individual throttle bodies work well in N/A applications where you are trying to squeeze every last bit of HP out, but on turbo applications a normal single throttle body is fine surely. The throttle plate and shaft aren't that much of a restriction if you move up to a larger sized throttle body. I can't help but think there was a reason Mitsubishi opted to use a smaller diameter throttle body on the turbo engines than the N/A engines.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198235 posted 01/07/15 08:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

individual throttle bodies work well in N/A applications where you are trying to squeeze every last bit of HP out, but on turbo applications a normal single throttle body is fine surely. The throttle plate and shaft aren't that much of a restriction if you move up to a larger sized throttle body. I can't help but think there was a reason Mitsubishi opted to use a smaller diameter throttle body on the turbo engines than the N/A engines.





There is a lot more work involved with the barrel throttle body design and more money that would need to be invested with it, so I may scrap that idea and stick with a traditional intake. I may design a throttle body with the barrel to mount in the stock location later on just because I like the no restriction at WOT. I am waiting for tax return time to order material for this. I also have designs for a bunch of other things and I know the Galant page on facebook was begging me to make (Sending units) I will post more up when I have time to maybe do some production runs of stuff and sell them.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198237 posted 01/07/15 08:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ITB's will help with throttle response so there would be other benefits over max hp. But I can't see any ill effects other that tuning that would be a concern.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198240 posted 01/07/15 09:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The only thing that I would be worried about is part throttle, But as you said it's probably something that tuning can take care of.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198242 posted 01/07/15 09:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
SD seems to work well with part throttle as long as you have a good vac source running behind each throttle body to a distribution block. A vacuum canister should help limit the effect on the map sensor when hitting the brakes if you decided to stick with a brake booster. But ITB's do require you to lock the WB o2 for initial tuning.
You will most likely have to spend time adjusting the throttle tip in (comparable to an Accelerator pump on a carburetor). The results of ITB's are rewarding on a properly working setup but it just adds more complication to tuning.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198245 posted 01/07/15 10:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I am planning on driving it. Not daily but I would like it to still drive some what decent. Here is a question would I have to run vac lines off of just one runner or would I have to run a line off of every runner?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198250 posted 01/07/15 10:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
you would have to run one line off of each runner to get the best vacuum. then run any of your sensors,brake booster and related off of the distribution block. or you can have an additional runner/balance tube that connects to the underside of the runners to make it look cleaner. then run a nipple off the side of the rail for the booster and all other fittings can be attached to the middle portion under the intake for a clean look.
But that is up to you as I can see you are having fun with software that I would love to have access to haha.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198267 posted 01/07/15 01:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you I will look into that...I have to go some sort of hard line. Something flexible will just not look right with a machined intake.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198280 posted 01/07/15 03:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I like the idea of individual throttle bodies, this paired with equal length runners would be amazing. This would no doubt leave each cylinder with equal airflow without the need of a cad blueprint or virtual flow testing. I know runner size would have to be kept to a minimum but placing the tb (sans itb) at center of the runners underneath or over the top could solve that easily. Just a thought.

edit: then again this would never work without a chamber to speed up the in coming air and like said keep the motor happy at idle and part throttle.



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Edited by Fiascoxl (01/07/15 03:22 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198284 posted 01/07/15 03:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
here is a good thread on the progression of this Z cars intake/itb setup. click



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198351 posted 01/08/15 05:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Intercooler core came into today. Hoping the intake and manifold will be done soon.


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198480 posted 01/10/15 03:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Got all of my exhaust manifold materials in and cleaned up the laser cut finish on the outside for a more clean finish.










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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198912 posted 01/17/15 08:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
While I am waiting on my exhaust manifold to get done I figured I would start on my sending unit.



Op1



Op2



Op3 I put in the 3/8 NPT holes

I modified a OEM gasket to work with the holes that I riv nuted



Here is the finished Top hat



I have 2 other brackets that I need to make yet to hang the fuel pump. Once everything is test fitted I will send this out for anodizing.

I am still looking at bulk head wire fittings to and I didn't want to put the hole in yet till I find one that will work.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198920 posted 01/17/15 10:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Progress is looking great! Love that sending unit.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198975 posted 01/19/15 01:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Doin very cool stuff, keep it coming



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1199016 posted 01/19/15 03:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mike Valencia will want a fuel sender unit too.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1199041 posted 01/19/15 07:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
So jelly of your access to a CNC machine...



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