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Does anyone still make a BBK kit?

coyotes

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Been looking into upgraded brake kits. Other than the $3000+ ones on Ebay no one has money for, are there still bracket kits anyone makes? I had a Baer kit on 981/1000 and loved it when I owned that car, but seems to be hard to find any upgrades now. What's out there, anything?
 

CutlassJim

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Is a BBK kit like a big brake kit kit? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif
 

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you can use any kit from a DSM i gather, but that assumes you have 5lug swap also.

click that link is one i seen posted a little while ago in a thread.

i am also very curious about BBK, but for 4lug setup, not 5lug.


so im in for more info also.
 

coyotes

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Quoting Racah15:
I have a Baer kit for sale if you're interested?



$$$? pics, info?
 

coyotes

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I have seen those VR4 ones, but not sure I want to do a VR4 caliper. Seems a lot more pad options, and cheaper, to go with something universal like a Baer or Wilwood caliper. I am mostly just looking for the bracket, but seems like something custom would have to be fabricated.
 

prove_it

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Try google. I tried DSM brake upgrade. Third result down was RTM. They carry all the "normal" upgrades available.

RTM brake upgrades
 

turbofonz

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My friend is selling his kit. it was on a 1g. I'm not sure if the rotors are also 4 lug. the calipers are new OEM mustang cobra iirc.
 

ToddTCE

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Quoting mitsuturbo:
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Contact the guy that puts those kits together. He can price out the same thing with 4 lug rotors for VR4.




Most all of our TCE kits are set up for both 4 and 5 lug fit. The 1G Eclipse kits are a direct fit for that reason.
 

blacksheep

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Todd - I see you posting all the time on FocusST.org - I still want to justify those bolt-on calipers you are selling for my FoST... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 

ToddTCE

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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Certainly been around here far longer then on the FoST board. Eclipse (Galant) kits go back over 13yrs. Caliper kits are nice for some but as I've said; they aren't a substitute for a full big brake kit either. The good news is that the FoST has waaaay more rotor stock than a Galant or Eclipse ever dreamed of coming with at 12.4". We used to make "kits" at 12.2 back when...
 

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Why not just use the Mitsubishi 2-pot caliper with mounting brackets and discs from the Outlander Model?
The 2-pot calipers can be found in sigma, oulander, evo3 and some other models - so very easy to find.
Decent brake pads are easily available from e.g. pagid, ferodo or carbone lorraine as its the evo 3 pad form for all these 2-pot brake systems and with the 296mm evo4 discs its a great improvement. You can also use outlander discs, but they have a different ventilation to the evo4 ones (non-brembo / gravel spec brakes!).

For the rear: just remove the ABS hydraulic unit + "delay valve" at the firewall to get full brake pressure on the rear wheels. Stock or mild upgrade pads match perfectly to the 296mm with decent brake pads.
I don't know the correct translation for the valve at the firewall - it retards the ABS pulses to the rear wheels to prevent simultaneous pulsation on front + rear wheels. some of these valves also limit the maximum pressure to the rear wheels. however, the linear pressure reduction is done within the ABS hydraulic unit.


I drove this setup with pagid rs 4-2 pads at the front and ebc green stuff at the rear for several years in an Galant FWD Turbo with long gearbox - even high-speed braking from >250kph or hunting 4WDs up and down the mountain roads here in the area was no problem.
I wouldn't use the EBC pads anymore, but pagid were too agressive for FWD (light rear) and they were lying around - i think for 4WD pagid 4-2 at the rear would also work. At least this will be my initial setup at the VR4 rebuild i'm currently working on...
 

LIV4PSI

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^^^USDM VR4s come with 2 pot front calipers. So if I am understanding correctly, they wouldn't be an upgrade.
 

EHmotorsports

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the outlander 2 pots accommodate the bigger diameter rotors. that is where the increased braking will come from.
 

r4pt0x

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For the VR4 2-pot it would only need the outlander brackets to use the 296mm discs.



Brembo is of course the best option you can choose from all OEM variants /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif (but also the most expensive)
 

mitsuturbo

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Quoting Kentstatetsi:
Non turbo 3s cars have 2 piston fronts that bolted right on my front. I'm running evo 8 17's though.


This is not an upgrade.
These are the exact same thing that comes stock on GVR4.
 
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