Mark is right, and so are you GST. With Andrew's page, I realized we are not immune to new douchey owners that come from other parts of the automotive spectrum. The other DSM pages will either make you laugh or mad. The funniest question you could ask is," what's considered a DSM". Some of you should try it out, the outcome is hilarious. Remember, most of the kids in the dsm groups are exactly that, kids.