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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 978673 posted 03/22/11 12:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
boostdtalon-It's a standard 1g socketed ecu....nothing special.........actually after playing with it a little I wonder if my other socketed ecu works also (I had assumed it didnt b/c I tried to load a program and it didnt take but now I think I didnt have the settings/program correct). I used tuner pro RT which is free but they suggest you pay $30 (donation)...stock maps can be found online also.

I did consider the evo ecu but between the cost and me already having mostly everything to go speed density..and the fact that I hate wiring I decided to stay with a 1g :-P.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 979349 posted 03/23/11 11:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So I have been wondering why my wastegate wasnt opening....(its "new" to me)...I though it might just have a really stiff spring in it but after a few times of getting to 15 psi and it not opening I got curious so I hooked up a mighty vac to the top top and pulled a vaccum...it did nothing even at 25 in-hg then I finally found a bicycle pump and tested another one I had laying around (but different style) and it opened up within one pump so I tried the one more my car and 4 pumps later the hose popped off (too much pressue due to WG never opening)......so I probably need to get that figured out soon.......any suggestions what to look for?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 979681 posted 03/25/11 12:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What type of bov?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 979751 posted 03/25/11 10:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Diego- It's a HKS style external wastegate

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 980579 posted 03/28/11 09:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just ordered a Jay Racing 1g alternator relocation kit (gm/saturn , aluminum) for the galant........the adapter bracket I made was a temporary one and not nearly as pretty, plus I look forward to being able to keep the alternator away from the exhaust and have a place to run my external WG dump. I will update with pictures/install once I get everything in.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 980587 posted 03/28/11 10:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Be careful with the aluminum one. They have the tendency to break in cold weather. If I ever do that I'm getting the steel one.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 980668 posted 03/29/11 09:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
boostdtalon- Thanks for the heads up, I will keep an eye on it....if I ever start to see a crack or start getting a lot of deflection I will pull it off and or weld a gusset to it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981361 posted 03/31/11 10:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well my relocation kit got here already , that was fast :-D......package well and looks nice and shiny , cant wait to hopefully install it tomorrow (assuming no rain).



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981736 posted 04/02/11 04:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Alright so here is a update/review/pictures of the Jay racing alternator relocation kit.

91 galant vr4
evo 3 motor (7 bolt)
gm/saturn alternator
Jay racing 1g gm/alternator kit in aluminum.

First I must say that Jay has responded to all of my emails very quickly and has been very helpful through this whole process, great guy. I ordered the product and it arrived very well packaged in just a few days with standard shipping, the kit did not come with any instructions but it is pretty self explanatory once you start putting everything together.

First I decided to do a quick mock up on a spare 6 bolt motor that I have laying just to make sure I was putting everything together right. I found out after putting it on my actual motor that if you are using a GM alternator the adjustable rod needs to sit on the passenger side of the bracket as you will see in the later pictures.



Next I mounted everything to my actual motor (note that tensioner is on the wrong side for the GM alt in this picture).


Next was the fun part of trying to squeeze the alternator passed the intake manifold which I did not want to remove.




After finally getting the alternator behind the motor I used a cup (race car) lug nut (just slightly smaller than the included spacer) since I didnt want to hammer/clearance my frame rail), note that you should install the belt over the alternator before putting this spacer in. Also I placed the spacer on the driver side of the bracket so that I could use the water pump pulley.


After realizing I had the tensioner on the wrong side I moved it over and bolted it up to the alternator.



Then I realized the belt was too long so after playing around with a few different belts I finally found the "perfect" belt. (5040413)


The 5040413 belt was a really tight fit to get on, I almost had to remove the water pump pulley but I was able to push on it hard enough sideways for it to finally slip on. After getting the belt on I had to adjust the tensioner to its limits to reach/tension the belt...I would have liked a little more adjustment (longer rod) but it seems to be sturdy and nothing moved/squealed when revving the engine so overall I am happy with kit.



You can also see how close the alternator sits to the chassis and why I decided to give myself a little more room although with a hammer the included spacer would have worked just fine.



Lastly this kit works alot better then my prior "rigged" gm/saturn alternator adapter bracket which was ugly and held the alternator at a slight angle causing squealing.....Again I am happy with my purchase and the aesthetics (comparatively) is worth the money in it self...not to mention the exteneded life of the alternator and finally being able to easily route my external wastegate dump pipe.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981890 posted 04/03/11 02:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So I have a annoying leak that I am trying to find....it is a small leak and appears to be pressurized, it is coming roughly from the back of the block under neath the intake manifold....but I think its power steering fluid as thats the only one that appears to get low so far? I will include a few pictures of my low budget leak detector...I am open to suggestions and comments (this picture was with car running for about 5 minutes). Ideas???


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981892 posted 04/03/11 02:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well You prety much nailed it, seems like you have a high pressure ps leak. Probably the line has a small crack in it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981909 posted 04/03/11 04:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Jesse_W,

That would make sense however there are no PS lines that run in such a way to spray at that angle (unless it is bouncing off something I dont notice)...if you look at the second picture it almost looks like the leak must be in a plane parallel to the rear motor mount....and I suppose it could be engine oil and I just havent noticed any significant loss.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 981916 posted 04/03/11 05:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What I would do is have a friend in the car with it running turning the wheel back and forth while you hold a light and look where itís coming from.... You should be able to tell just from the smell of the fluid if its ps or oil, and if not the smell the viscosity of it.


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 982953 posted 04/07/11 08:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Small update....once I set set the car down on the ground the motor moved just enough to contact the chassis...so I re modified my motor mount (couple of spacers) and now its fine again.....this problem is most likely due to my lack of precision when making that mount although I would suggest any who gets that kit to massage the chassis with a hammer just to make life easier.

also I was fortunate enough to have someone pump the brakes for me in the galant and I was able to hear what sounded like air in the ABS unit so I ripped it out, looped the lines going from the master cylinder to the p-valve (instead of putting new lines on it) and temporarily robbed my eclipses p-valve and two brake lines.......brakes feel better but problem is not solved...although I can lock all 4 wheels up in the gravel......it performs a little better after a pump or two which makes me think there is still air in the lines or just a bad master cylinder.

Lastly I got pretty much everything I need to convert to speed density so I will probably tackle that tomorrow and or saturday pending the weather ................on a side not if anyone has access to a palm 3.5 OS rom let me know...I lost my palm a while back and would prefer to log on my laptop via a palm emulator anyhow.

*actually I found a rom so I am good on that now *


Edited by chevyracer5613 (04/07/11 10:01 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 983329 posted 04/08/11 11:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
*update* fired up the car on speed density :-D...havent ran it long but wired in the IAT and MAP, loaded the dsmap basemap with my injectors set in (510cc) and it fired right up......tomorrow (hopefully) I will wire in the wideband into the ecu and get the data logging working right...then tuning the car a little.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 984006 posted 04/11/11 04:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
so I noticed something funny the other day.......if I moved my ecu the motor would sometimes rev us and usually shut off.......I traced the problem down to the smaller of the three plugs.....if I push one way I could hear the mpi rela click and the motor would shut off...if I pushed the other way nothing......I pulled on all the wires with it pushed to one side and nothing happened......the ecu internally looks ok to me.......is it possible to have a bad plug???

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985254 posted 04/14/11 11:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
anyone near charlotte,nc have a eeprom burner and spare chip laying around? My ostrich v1 had an error during a firmware update and is bricked.....but i'd really like my car to be running and dont feel like waiting a couple of weeks to RMA and get a new ostrich in (while my car is immobile).........so I was curious if anyone "local" could potentially burn me a speed density chip?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985479 posted 04/15/11 08:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
just fyi if anyone has ever considered buying a product from moates.... particularly the ostrich (real time ecu emulator) do it.......if for nothing else than their customer service....absolutely awesome people. Long story short I had an older version 1 ostrich and when I tried to update the firmware it bricked...I contacted Moates and that day had a response, I now have ordered a new version 2 (better) ostrich and will be reimbursed when I RMA my old unit....they also offered to fix my old one free of charge.....awesome people with a great product :-D

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986255 posted 04/18/11 08:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So while I am waiting on my ostrich to get here I decided to work on my other projects, such as mounting that huge muffler (b/c I want the car to be quiet) without it looking to ricey........so basically I just cut off the gigantic tip that was like 10 inches long....right now it still has the inner and outer portion but eventually I will just weld a plate there to make it look a little better (or maybe cut the outer portion off and paint the "tip")........I also decided to raise my intercooler and oil cooler a little since they were a little to close to the ground for my liking.....lastly I played with the idea of twin charging........my buddy has a supercharger off his 3000gt that I have been trying to sell...but I think it'd look good on my galant :-D.






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986637 posted 04/19/11 08:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got my ostrich v2 in today....wow that thing is small compared to the v1....it also worked immediately with the jackal software with no issues...very happy :-D


So since I am cheap I went to pull-a-part and found a f-body running a 3" exhaust and got it (that and a hacksaw were about $20)...cut it into a few pieces and turned it into a galant exhaust :-D...I still need about 3' of it to connect to my downpipe...if anyone near charlotte has some for cheap let me know...otherwise its off to stock car steel or the junkyard again......






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986896 posted 04/20/11 03:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
*update* for anyone running or wanting to run speed density...when you wire in the output of the MAP sensor it goes to the green wire with yellow stripe..........note galants are special and have two of them...it is the one that does not have any red on it at all (I had it wired to the wrong one at first and it wouldnt run...the red dots were small and faint)............just fyi.......also my car idles extremely smooth now....now for the fun part of tuning........

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986968 posted 04/20/11 08:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
*update* Took the car on its first highway run and first time on speed density....I am very happy with SD and look forward to tuning with it, I think it is going to be awesome, the car has never idled so nicely lol.......anyhow I took the car for a drive and of course my dirty fuel tank clogged up the fuel sock again but I was bored and thought i'd upload another scatter plot showing the difference between a clean and dirty fuel sock in the same session (just about 15 minutes apart)......also I will include a screen shot of the data logger in jacakl

On a side note I yanked out the narrow band stock 02 and wired the 0-5V output of my wideband to pin 4 and now I can datalog and tune with the wideband in jackal :-D




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 987782 posted 04/24/11 11:38 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
*update*...car is soooo much quieter with the full exhaust!!! :-D....its awesome..........so is jackal.....the tuning process is pretty straight forward and everything is in one nice little "package" if you will........below I will post 3 scatter plots of three different tunes back to back (tuning process is....set up logging parameters, drive, review logs , change fueling, hit upload and try and again)...I am still perfecting the tune but it is pretty decent already...but with time it'll be even better









Edited by chevyracer5613 (04/24/11 11:39 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 988439 posted 04/26/11 06:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
just fyi..unless my car is special note that none of the cars power windows will work without the master window switch...atleast mine didnt untill I installed the master window switch, and now they all work :-D

Also I am trying to think of why my car sometimes will grind 2nd gear and sometimes not want to engage into any gear....I checked the shift linkages and everything seems to be adjusted fine...sometimes I have no issues and other times its hard to get in gear....right now my next assumption is that perhaps the clutch slave cylinder isnt extending out far enough for my twin disc clutch......oh yea and the adjustment rod rod appears to be maxed out on the pedal.

also...speed density is awesome :-P....one of my couplers popped off (the elbow leading into the intake manifold) and the car drove absolutely perfect..aside from not having boost.....a MAFT can only do that if the boost leak occurs before the GM MAF and stock cant do it at all....anyhow questions and comments are always welcome

Lastly I went ahead and replaced the door panels with stock ones, I think they look better personally...anyhow I am thinking about selling the ones that have the red/white placard things..any idea what a reasonable asking price would be for them?

Oh yea I also bought a TRE-200 external fuel pump.....I am seriously tempted to put one of my fuel cells in....now it'd just take making some brackets, taking the old one out, connecting the lines...and deciding how to insert the fuel lever sensor thing....but its doable (I have two spare fuel cells


Edited by chevyracer5613 (04/26/11 06:56 PM)

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