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Re: What kind of fmic setup are you running?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 984417 posted 04/12/11 05:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Red_Bird:

^ I agree with that, most GVR4 owners are older and have previous experince with DSMs and know what works and what does not work for the car. However, I don't belive your car becomes more high quality with a $900 intercooler kit or high dollar pieces. I have seen the ETS kit in person and I am very impressed with it, but I can get a good core from ebay and weld my owns pipes for $325 and it looks just as good, fits just as snug, and flows just the same if not more. There is my problem, if that is what you call a problem? I suppose if I was unable to do the work myself I would be more tempted to get an ETS kit or $700 exhasut setup etc...




My feelings exactly! I've got access to a nice tig welder and I think it'd be sorta fun to fab up my own kit.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985149 posted 04/14/11 06:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I really like the ETS kit, but i already had a custom kit fabbed up w/a CXRacing core. If your going to go w/a "ebay"fmic. CXRacing cores are the best cores sold on Ebay IMO.

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what I really like about this core is it's 11"[not typical 12"] tall which is unique and it clears the hood support bracket w/o any cutting. its solid,good welds, thick/durable end tanks.

also...CXRacing has some of the best IC univ.pipe kits out.Good t-bolts & quality couplers.;

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Edited by boostin4door (04/16/11 03:08 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985152 posted 04/14/11 06:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I`m running a APEXi Skyline core and custom piping. Looks nice, but there is alot of piping.



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spearco 1g street




w/ oil cooler

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985261 posted 04/14/11 11:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting vtecds1:

I`m running a APEXi Skyline core and custom piping. Looks nice, but there is alot of piping.




Pshhh cheap bastard...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985320 posted 04/15/11 09:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting boostin4door:

I really like the ETS kit, but i already had a custom kit fabbed up w/a CXRacing core. If your going to go w/a "ebay"fmic. CXRacing cores are the best cores sold on Ebay IMO.

click

what I really like about this core is it's 11"[not typical 12"] tall which is unique and it clears the hood support bracket w/o any cutting. its solid,good welds, thick/durable end tanks.

also...CXRacing has some of the best IC univ.pipe kits out.Good t-bolts & quality couplers.;

click


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Awesome! This is what I was looking for thanks. Only thing I notice, is the two links for piping have different bends. I was thinking I'd want a couple straights, a couple 90's, a couple 45s and a U turn for good measure. Maybe I'll make something up on proe just for kicks and giggles.

edit: I was thinking something similar to a kit like this just because the core is a smaller 22x7x2.25. I don't plan to ever make more than 300awhp and would rather not have a large pressure drop from a larger core. What are your thoughts on that?


Edited by HiImBrian (04/15/11 01:33 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985386 posted 04/15/11 02:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
what turbo are you using?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 985411 posted 04/15/11 03:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Just a 14b now with plans to go 16g in the future.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986238 posted 04/18/11 07:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Brian, take note of this thread and the pic of the cut front bumper support:

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Its a good idea to leave a portion at the top if you can so that the urethane doesn't sag over time. I think that might be welded on though if you look at the other pic in that thread.


Edited by 3of1000 (04/18/11 07:01 PM)

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My car hasthe whole center missing lol, bough the car that way but I do notice a slight sag in the center.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986308 posted 04/18/11 11:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks for the heads up guys! I would have probably hacked off as much as possible.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986614 posted 04/19/11 06:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So I've been doing a little reading and I'm curious if anybody has tried running an evo fmic upside down? Since 14bs and 16gs require J pipes which come up off the turbo, it seems like if the evo fmic were flipped so that the endtanks pointed upwards that it would make routing the ic piping easier/better.

p.s. I'm not sure if I've got this search thing down. I tried searching "+evo +fmic -re" and got nothing. I then searched "+evo fmic -re" and got nothing about fmics.


Edited by HiImBrian (04/19/11 06:42 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986618 posted 04/19/11 07:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't know if this will help but this is what I did. I was afraid of cutting to much of the bumper support away so I used the metal that I cut away to reinforce the bumper, on the top and sides.


You can see on the sides where the ends were boxed off, and the top was reinforced inside the lip which you really can't see. Needless to say its definitely more rigid. I then Por-15'd the whole thing which is the only reason it looks as good as it does.





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986623 posted 04/19/11 07:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting HiImBrian:

So I've been doing a little reading and I'm curious if anybody has tried running an evo fmic upside down? Since 14bs and 16gs require J pipes which come up off the turbo, it seems like if the evo fmic were flipped so that the endtanks pointed upwards that it would make routing the ic piping easier/better.

p.s. I'm not sure if I've got this search thing down. I tried searching "+evo +fmic -re" and got nothing. I then searched "+evo fmic -re" and got nothing about fmics.



The jonvr4 fmic kit uses the Evo FMIC upside down



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Thanks guys! Those pics are really helpful, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one thinking about flipping an evo fmic. I didn't realize that evo fmics were going for the $100 range. I feel like you can get a decent fmic off ebay for that price.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986787 posted 04/20/11 08:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The Evo FMIC will flow better than the Ebay core. It has more fins/inch compared to the ebay core. No I'm not just saying this, yes I've run both.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986836 posted 04/20/11 12:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got both of my Evo fmic cores for free step brother and homie, they both replaced their intercoolers with bigger fmic that utilize the stock end tank locations so that their piping would match as if it were a stock intercooler. With that being said I think you can use any core made for an Evo with the stock location end tanks and flip them with the jonvr4 kit.



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bahahahaha! I misread that and thought you meant that a guy by the name of jonvr4 flipped his evo fmic. So I just sent jonvr4 on here a pm lol oops!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986853 posted 04/20/11 01:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
oh he made a short run production of a FMIC kit that uses a Evo Intercooler upside down.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 986886 posted 04/20/11 02:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ive got an EVO 3 fmic made to fit, worked pretty good actually. Here are some pics.




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Before I was able to get my current FMIC setup made, I used an Evo FM but I modified the hotside pipe.



I shot it up next to the radiator so the stock location pipe essentially went right into it. Here is a better picture.



That has been replaced with a Custom Bell Intercooler core and custom pipe setup.



I just put an ETS Core on my Evo actually. It is only 3" thick which is not a lot bigger than stock, but the frontal area is much larger and the welds look clean. The quality of the core is very good. The top has a 3/16 top plate with external channels on both top and bottom. The bottom has a brace spanning the lower section, which does pretty much block most of that external channel however. I didn't buy it, but for the 499.00 retail I guess it is alright.

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I am big into recycling though and if your not into sacrifice or burnt offerings, you may want to stick with 93 octane.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 987165 posted 04/21/11 03:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'll make my periodic Water-Air pitch. With this most recent variation I've got a ~300in^3 water/air core and a front heat exchanger that's about 240in^3 with a front area of about 200in^2. From my calcuations this should perform about like an ETS street setup with charge temps in the 120*F range under full boost on a mild turbo. Best of all, if your AC is removed it fits with NO CUTTING OF THE BUMPER since the front heat exchanger fits between the bumper and the radiator in the space left after pull the condenser.





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Broxma, that setup is exactly what I'd like to do! What was your reason for changing cores?

Belize1334, I like everything about that water/air setup except I'm not very familiar with it and I think that's probably more of a project than I'd like to take on at this point.

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Let's just say price was the biggest thing which made me change, being that it was free. I only had the Evo core on temporarily to get the car moving. The initial intention was the custom core.

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I am big into recycling though and if your not into sacrifice or burnt offerings, you may want to stick with 93 octane.

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PM sent....

but, something like this will work also & be easy to fit.
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Edited by boostin4door (04/24/11 05:33 AM)

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