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MHI Big 16g

gramkrakr89

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Quoting maxash0775:
Follow up question. When they rate the potential HP on these turbos, is that to the motor, or at the wheels. Never really says, dont know if it is implied or Im just a noob.



You can take a look on the web and see what people have been able to achieve with the EVOIIIbig16G, there should be plenty of firsthand accounts and dyno results out there...
 

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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting Beaner:</font><hr />
You post a picture of a valve stem on the intake pipe and we are to assume the catch can was connected to it?

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You should know from my post that’s right above your post. And if you boost test your car with a valve stem that’s all on you. I block everything off and use a smoke/air machine like it should be done but to each its own.

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting turbowop:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting DDM:</font><hr />
Dude.. nothing was directed to you before my previous post. You just blew a fuse because i disagreed with someone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . There is a difference between taking someones side and telling someone to "fack off"

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I "blew a fuse" because you're polluting this forum with your misinformation. There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeding the turbo oil from the head. And I'm not taking anybody's side here. I'm just trying to keep anybody else looking for good info on this forum from thinking they need to do something that isn't necessary.

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Next time try to put in a reasonable argument so people can see that you are probably correct and im crazy and move on instead of “im doing it wrong? Fack off!” And its not misinformation because all MHI turbos have restrictors on them so the extra pressure wouldn’t hurt but the lack of might be a huge problem especially how 99% of us overboost the turbos as it is.

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting Alpha Male:</font><hr />


You need to back pedal and put it in a lower gear bud,

I commended you in another thread for removing your galant from the hands of an idiot.

However that doesn't give you free reign to start spouting off like you're the end-all, be-all of automotive knowledge.

The head feed, commonly referred to as "gravity feed" is completely fine for many turbos on the market. the OFH feed mod is of no real importance on most cars/turbos.

Namely those who remove their balance shafts and greatly increase the pressure at the OFH unless porting the relieve valve opening, they will blow some turbo seals with a quickness.

Lets take a look at the turbo oil feed on the 2g, coupled with the T25 I always thought it was a tactic to keep mechanics in a job, higher pressure oil line, combined with a smaller, harder working turbo = lots of dead t25's out there.

Either feed line will work if installed properly and everything else is up to par. Now give it a rest before i put the chicago sector of the GVR4 mafia on your ass. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" />

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I am actually very calm and the only reason I made the reply is because the previous poster told me to “fack off”. I hate when im trying to post up something that I think is helpful and then instead of having a reasonable discussion I get a fack off newb post. Iike I said all mhi turbos have restictors built in. I have seen and owned a few t25’s with 150k miles on them.

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting DynastyLCD:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting DDM:</font><hr />
I dont care what turbo you run its way better pressure to feed it off there then the head. What am i explaining this to a bunch of kids?

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ive got to add one minor detail, possibly irrelevant, and from a neutral standpoint (that could be nit-picking....)

you dont care what turbo you run... its way better to feed from OFH is the jist of what i got out of that above quote.

so.... if the OP decided to run a BB turbo, that requires 15 psi or so of oil pressure, is it still better to feed from the OFH?

(no.)

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Yes. And then you use an inline restrictor depending on what turbo you are running. Some turbos like Garret ball bearing also come with a built in restrictor.
 
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turbowop

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All of this arguing stems from this statement:

Quote:
If you use the oem oil line the turbo doesn't get enough for some reason. I give you a year before the turbo start developing play.



This is pure and blatant misinformation, and the reason why I responded the way I did. Nobody's turbos are going to start developing play due to using the factory oil feed lines. If this is the way you want to present your "facts", perhaps you should be the one trying to put in more reasonable arguments. Much like your posts in the snow tires thread where your response regarding narrower tires was "they sucked". Awesome review, Mr. ASE. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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Quoting DDM:
I hate when im trying to post up something that I think is helpful and then instead...



My dad always told me that if I didn't know the answer to say "I don't know", rather than pretend like I did and guess.
 

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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting DDM:</font><hr />
You should know from my post that’s right above your post. And if you boost test your car with a valve stem that’s all on you. I block everything off and use a smoke/air machine like it should be done but to each its own.

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The post that had a sentence started with a plus sign? I figured there was an equally useless picture you forgot to attach with it. We're talking about how to feed a 16g and out of nowhere you're talking about valve stems on intake pipes then backtracking on what was connected to it. You bought a modded 20 year old turbo car and found weird sh*t? No way.

My air machine is a bike pump hooked up to a valve stem. The only smoke machine I own is a ROOR. Both get the job done perfectly.

Happy boosting.
 

AnotherNewb

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Quoting Beaner:
The only smoke machine I own is a ROOR...

Happy boosting.



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif

gotta love that glass
 

Brunoboy

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Quoting DDM:
Quoting Alpha Male:
someone get the beating stick out and put these newbs back in line. misinformation is BAD.



Explain to me how that's misinformation? Show me something anywhere where it sais its better to use the stock turbo feed line over a braided from the ofh. i /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worthy.gif to you because of your post count!

There is a reason why mitsu decided to put the oil feed line on the 2g on the filter housing. I dont care what turbo you run its way better pressure to feed it off there then the head. What am i explaining this to a bunch of kids? Jeez call any performance shop and ask them which is better? Im not saying its necessary. But you should consider it!


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Read post #9, if you don't know Justin, He is a known Turbo Re-builder on Tuners, Learn to Research before posting mis information.
 

Brunoboy

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Quoting gramkrakr89:
Quoting Turbro_Negro:
Whats the difference from the evo3GT 16g and EvoIII Big 16G (49178-01470)? is the GT a ebay version or compressor cover difference?

+1 You do not need to feed a 16g from the OFH.

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yeah the evo3GT a chinese knock-off that never lasts long on performance builds.

PO of my car fed a BB Garrett from the OFH w/ no restrictor ... needless to say, the seals are non-existent now, but modding a restrictor into the feed banjo stopped most of the leaking/smoking... now the in/out shaft play is like 1/8" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


I'd step back and research first.TurboChargers.com had a line of Turbos by BBL Group.It featured a Evo16g style compressor wheel and cover and a Cast Ported hot side with a 34mm Flapper. It uses the same rebuild kit as any MHI Tdo5h and is just as good. I have no issues with it.

EVO3GT 16g
 
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</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting DDM:</font><hr />

Next time try to put in a reasonable argument so people can see that you are probably correct and im crazy and move on instead of “im doing it wrong? Fack off!” And <b>its not misinformation because all MHI turbos have restrictors on them</b> so the extra pressure wouldn’t hurt but the lack of might be a huge problem especially how 99% of us overboost the turbos as it is.

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STFU! they are NOT on the turbo.....http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/maintenance-repairs/422266-evo3-16g-oil-feed.html
 

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Ait, ima just stop. No reason arguing with the whole forum. Yall can kiss each others asses all you want. Ill run my sh*t from the OFH with 20+psi all day long and you can keep rebuilding your sh*t /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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You wanted proof, we gave you proof and you want to keep thinking your right, you are that 1% of car guys that can't admit you don't know sh*t. Congrats , someone change his name on the board .
 

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Quoting brunoboy:
Quoting gramkrakr89:

yeah the evo3GT a chinese knock-off that never lasts long on performance builds.

PO of my car fed a BB Garrett from the OFH w/ no restrictor ... needless to say, the seals are non-existent now, but modding a restrictor into the feed banjo stopped most of the leaking/smoking... now the in/out shaft play is like 1/8" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


I'd step back and research first.TurboChargers.com had a line of Turbos by BBL Group.It featured a Evo16g style compressor wheel and cover and a Cast Ported hot side with a 34mm Flapper. It uses the same rebuild kit as any MHI Tdo5h and is just as good. I have no issues with it.

EVO3GT 16g



my bad... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bawling.gif

the first thing I think when I hear "evo3gt 16g" is the cheap junk you find on ebay and random interwebs shops, often with that name attached...

I will watch my mouth from now on /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I've never seen one in person with this compressor cover:
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Man... I feel dumb now - lesson learned!
 
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matt92vr4

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The shop I use to work for installed many many many Chinese evo3 16g's and I never saw a problem. I had two on my Stealth and put down 550awhp. I probably put 10k miles on them before I sold the car and run 26psi all day. The ones we had were decent units. Obviously I would prefer real Mitsus but at $150 each brand new it was a good option. We also had the Chinese wastegates. They were OK but the springs were garbage. So, in my experience I would recommend Mitsu but would not be scared of the Chinese unit at the right price. The ones we had did not say "EVO III" on them.
 

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I got two 16g's on my bench, now wheres the restrictors? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rofl.gif

And in your picture isn't that a STOCK OEM oil feed line to your td05 turbo...? Shouldnt you be running it from the OFH cause' racecar?

Go find some passive friends to rant your misinformation on. Oh and welcome to the site, your introduction was classy.
 

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Quoting omertaitalia:
gotta love those roors, i myself rock a 14in beaker bottom rasta label. goin to mod?, lets blaze! threadjacked



If your at Factory MOD I will match.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif . Lol this thread went wayyyyyyyy off hand.
 
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