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MHI Big 16g

turbowop

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Quoting DDM:
Quoting turbowop:

Here we go. Another ASE certified n00b to the forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/goyou.gif After reading you say that in a thread about snow tires, I had to laugh.

Considering how many stock turbos lasted hundreds of thousands of miles and only needed new exhaust housings due to cracks, I'd say the oil feed from the head works just fine. Mitsu also put out a lot of motors that crankwalked with the 2g, so I wouldn't say that change is always good.

The only reason anybody should consider runnning a line off the OFH is for some custom application, or if a specific turbo manufacturer requires a higher pressure feed, like the FPgreen/red. It's no better. Both my cars are fed from the head. You wanna tell me I'm doing it wrong? Fack off.

Bunch of kids, eh? I'm 35, own two GVR4's, one of them since '98. This ain't about post count. We're a tight knit community with members that have been here for over a decade. Lots of knowledge and not a lot of bullshit. You won't make many friends here acting the way you are. Just sayin'.



Thats a great post considering i wasn't even talking to you but since you added that "fack off" we can argue a little lol. Just cause i recently registered on this forum does not make me a newb to dsms. Whats sad is that a 35 year old man that is just siding with people to make friends on an international forum because you are so convinced you are "doing it right". I never said you were doing it wrong if you read my post. I simply said its better to feed it from OFH. You are acting like its a big ass mod to the car and takes 5 days to complete (well maybe for you). I recommend this to everyone and i have yet see something go wrong with feeding the turbo like that. You sir are just a moron. Just by that "Fack off" i can tell you are a 35 year old with a 12 year olds mind since you cant provide any explanation for anything and just say that you are doing it right.



Whether or not the post was directly specifically at me or not doesn't matter. The fact that you are saying it's "better" to feed the turbo from the OFH is where I disagree and make a reply. I don't give a f*** if you aren't new to DSM's. You're new to this forum, genius.
 

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Dude.. nothing was directed to you before my previous post. You just blew a fuse because i disagreed with someone /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif . There is a difference between taking someones side and telling someone to "fack off"
 
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Looks like you bought a car from someone that realized the importance of boost leak testing. Nice.
 

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Quoting DDM:
That is true! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif But i do work on dsm's alot and i bought my car off a member here and i thought it would be very clean then started ripping it apart and found stuff like this.
...

The previous owner must have taken advice from someone with a high post count and listened. I mean how could someone be wrong if they have a high post count. lolololol



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

irrelevant much?
 

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^ lol yeah. If it was only on the intercooler piping!
 

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Quoting maxash0775:
Can't we all just get along... And answer my follow up question that I put up a few replies ago.


I think the automotive industry rates everything at the flywheel. Giving actual hp (at the wheels) is ineffective marketing. It's a numbers game.
 

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^ Man i hope you arent serious. + this is how the catch can was attached. And sorry man , i didn't mean to hijack your thread. Just putting in my 2c.
 

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Well then sir your hopes are crushed! If you choose to attach a catch can with a valve stem i don't even want to see the rest of your car.
 

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You post a picture of a valve stem on the intake pipe and we are to assume the catch can was connected to it?
 

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Whats the difference from the evo3GT 16g and EvoIII Big 16G (49178-01470)? is the GT a ebay version or compressor cover difference?

+1 You do not need to feed a 16g from the OFH.
 

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Quoting DDM:
Dude.. nothing was directed to you before my previous post. You just blew a fuse because i disagreed with someone /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif . There is a difference between taking someones side and telling someone to "fack off"



I "blew a fuse" because you're polluting this forum with your misinformation. There is absolutely nothing wrong with feeding the turbo oil from the head. And I'm not taking anybody's side here. I'm just trying to keep anybody else looking for good info on this forum from thinking they need to do something that isn't necessary.
 

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This thread sounds looks like "tooners".
 

IncorpoRatedX

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Quoting DDM:
Quoting turbowop:

Here we go. Another ASE certified n00b to the forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/goyou.gif After reading you say that in a thread about snow tires, I had to laugh.

Considering how many stock turbos lasted hundreds of thousands of miles and only needed new exhaust housings due to cracks, I'd say the oil feed from the head works just fine. Mitsu also put out a lot of motors that crankwalked with the 2g, so I wouldn't say that change is always good.

The only reason anybody should consider runnning a line off the OFH is for some custom application, or if a specific turbo manufacturer requires a higher pressure feed, like the FPgreen/red. It's no better. Both my cars are fed from the head. You wanna tell me I'm doing it wrong? Fack off.

Bunch of kids, eh? I'm 35, own two GVR4's, one of them since '98. This ain't about post count. We're a tight knit community with members that have been here for over a decade. Lots of knowledge and not a lot of bullshit. You won't make many friends here acting the way you are. Just sayin'.



Thats a great post considering i wasn't even talking to you but since you added that "fack off" we can argue a little lol. Just cause i recently registered on this forum does not make me a newb to dsms. Whats sad is that a 35 year old man that is just siding with people to make friends on an international forum because you are so convinced you are "doing it right". I never said you were doing it wrong if you read my post. I simply said its better to feed it from OFH. You are acting like its a big ass mod to the car and takes 5 days to complete (well maybe for you). I recommend this to everyone and i have yet see something go wrong with feeding the turbo like that. You sir are just a moron. Just by that "Fack off" i can tell you are a 35 year old with a 12 year olds mind since you cant provide any explanation for anything and just say that you are doing it right.




You need to back pedal and put it in a lower gear bud,

I commended you in another thread for removing your galant from the hands of an idiot.

However that doesn't give you free reign to start spouting off like you're the end-all, be-all of automotive knowledge.

The head feed, commonly referred to as "gravity feed" is completely fine for many turbos on the market. the OFH feed mod is of no real importance on most cars/turbos.

Namely those who remove their balance shafts and greatly increase the pressure at the OFH unless porting the relieve valve opening, they will blow some turbo seals with a quickness.

Lets take a look at the turbo oil feed on the 2g, coupled with the T25 I always thought it was a tactic to keep mechanics in a job, higher pressure oil line, combined with a smaller, harder working turbo = lots of dead t25's out there.

Either feed line will work if installed properly and everything else is up to par. Now give it a rest before i put the chicago sector of the GVR4 mafia on your ass. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif
 

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Quoting maxash0775:
Can't we all just get along... And answer my follow up question that I put up a few replies ago.



Not to be a jerk, but it might be best to start a new thread in a different section.. there ain't no stopping it now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

DynastyLCD

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Quoting DDM:
I dont care what turbo you run its way better pressure to feed it off there then the head. What am i explaining this to a bunch of kids?



ive got to add one minor detail, possibly irrelevant, and from a neutral standpoint (that could be nit-picking....)

you dont care what turbo you run... its way better to feed from OFH is the jist of what i got out of that above quote.

so.... if the OP decided to run a BB turbo, that requires 15 psi or so of oil pressure, is it still better to feed from the OFH?

(no.)
 

turbowop

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Srsly. This is the reason I can't stand this n00bs posts.

On 1051, I run my ball bearing FP3052 off the head with a restrictor, as per FP's instructions since they require very little oil pressure. Back when I ran an FPgreen, I ran the feed off the OFH, again, as per their instructions to help feed the modified thrust bearing.

On 503, I run my Evo3 16g fed from the head with zero issues.

Stating that it's "way better" to feed oil from the OFH is a retarded blanket statement. It all depends on the application.
 
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gramkrakr89

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Quoting Turbro_Negro:
Whats the difference from the evo3GT 16g and EvoIII Big 16G (49178-01470)? is the GT a ebay version or compressor cover difference?

+1 You do not need to feed a 16g from the OFH.

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yeah the evo3GT a chinese knock-off that never lasts long on performance builds.

PO of my car fed a BB Garrett from the OFH w/ no restrictor ... needless to say, the seals are non-existent now, but modding a restrictor into the feed banjo stopped most of the leaking/smoking... now the in/out shaft play is like 1/8" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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