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Re: 139/1000 Rebuild


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 793428 posted 05/18/09 12:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
the build is loookin sweeeet man. keep it up!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 794605 posted 05/20/09 10:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Glad to see 139's back in good hands. 931 was a trusty steed, I'll pour a bit of motor oil out for her.

True story: I bought the suspension from Tommy back when originally parted it out, that stuff should fit like a glove.

Good luck with restoring 139, I hope I get a chance to see it in person someday.

Are you taking a video of 931's final run?



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Edited by quasimondo (05/20/09 10:26 PM)

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 794610 posted 05/20/09 10:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
GTluke shot video of two runs. Ill post tomorrow morning.

It was a very dissapointing night for #931. 12.30 @ 112.5 with a 1.738. 26psi and a pretty aggressive tune on racegas only made 112.5mph. The lag was pretty bad, I had to launch it over 6000rpm on a two step to make any boost on the line. All my other runs were bad: 13's with 2.1 and 2.0 60' times bogging. My last run was a 14.2 @ 108 at 28psi! then on the way home the turbo started making tons of noise and wouldn't spool up at all. Pretty sure the T3T4 died. sucks after all the work fabricating the o2 housing, external, ic pipes and such to install it on saturday.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 795230 posted 05/22/09 08:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, this is what 931 looks like now:


Pulled the complete engine/trans/suspension/steering in one shot out the bottom. Im intending to install it this way into 139 maybe next week after doing some work on the engine (BSE, Tbelt, Cams,head rebuild, non crunched oil pan, maybe aluminum flywheel)



This is all the bolts required to remove it in this manor. Took from 2pm till 5pm. pretty fast from running car to engine on the floor.

Pic of the turbo setup that went on last weekend.


tomorrow (saturday) Im going to get the engine on a stand and pull the head, front case, and oil pan off. Also need to snag the fuel tank, lines, and a bunch of engine compartment items from 931 before getting it off the lift.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 795374 posted 05/23/09 01:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you want a belize green engine bay, just have a local automotive paint shop mix the factory color into some spray cans. Should be less than $75 to do the whole engine bay.



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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796563 posted 05/27/09 09:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Tuesday I was able to finish up removing all the parts needed from #931 and get it outside off the lift. Here's pretty much everything needed to reassemble #139 into a running car, other than a good T3T4.


Then I rolled 139 onto the lift and started removing everything on the underside: driveshaft, rear subframe and diff/axles, heat shield, parking cables, steering rack subframe, rack, control arms, shocks, brakes, hubs. That put me to here:



I still need to pull the fuel tank, rear brake lines, that -8 line, and maybe the rear bumper support. Then I want to go at all the little rust spots with a wire wheel. most of the rust spots are just exposed ends of bolts for seats, belts, shifter..ect. Then Im planning to wash the bottom and go at it with a new layer of undercoating or paint.

Then need to start getting the rear subframe cleaned and painted, then reinstalled with the 4bolt diff.

Debating getting a rebuilt dsm steering rack now while it's apart since that is such a pita to change a year down the road. Also have to get going on the motor work and a new turbo before I can do much on the front end.

But anyway, progress is happening. Im hoping to have the car together and on the road by the end of June.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796901 posted 05/28/09 11:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No pics from today.

Removed: fuel tank, fuel lines and rear brake hard lines, all the exhaust hangers, rear tow loops, and the rear bumper assembly.

DAMN the rear bumper was heavy:

39.5lb on my shipping scale for the rear support (went to the scrap steel pile behind the garage)
6lb for the pair of tow loops, also in the scrap
8lb of rear bumper foam! wtf that's heavier than it looks.
3.5lb exhaust heat shield

All that stuff isn't going back on for a nice 57lb of weight loss. Brackets to hold up the rear bumper cover shouldn't weight more than 3 or 4lb.

I'm thinking POR15 by GTLuke's recomendation for the undercoating. Thinking it might be good to go over the front hubs/caliper and all the rear suspension, maybe the engine block. Gotta order some of that stuff up, next week's project is going to be rust removal & undercoating and getting the gas tank, fuel lines, and rear subframe back in the car.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796908 posted 05/29/09 12:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I respect you a lot for tearing this car down to near-nothing, but what kind of system have you worked out so you remember what bolt goes where?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796922 posted 05/29/09 12:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mad props for going this in depth. Very nice work.

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796953 posted 05/29/09 07:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting stealthtt24:

I respect you a lot for tearing this car down to near-nothing, but what kind of system have you worked out so you remember what bolt goes where?




Bolts come off. If rusty they go in the garbage. If clean they go in a bucket which sits in the parts washer at the end of a day. Clean bolts then get organized into storage tubs the next day after drying by thread size and length. I have all the good hardware from the last 4 cars that I parted out this year, so I have more than enough hardware to replace any rusty bolts with better stuff.

These bins are now about twice as full.



I don't really need a system, as this will be about the 20th time I have torn a dsm down to bare chassis. (yeah yeah GVR4 not a dsm...but all the same bolts go in the same spots). Assembly of these cars is pretty much permanently mapped in my brain.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (05/29/09 07:24 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 796955 posted 05/29/09 07:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting porcaro:

Mad props for going this in depth. Very nice work.




I had originally intended to just buy this shell and swap my mechanicals into it quickly and get it running asap. But as usual, things are never as nice as you hope. While the body on 139 is in excellent shape, the underside was starting to deteriorate from sitting on a lawn, mostly the original subframes and suspension.

These subframes, suspension arms, gas tank, fuel lines, brake lines on my old car were in better condition so they are going in after a throughout cleaning and rust prevention. I really intend to keep this car around for a long time and if Im going to basically build it from scratch, I don't want to be looking at rust, dirt, or corrosion after hundreds of hours of labor.

so now this project is becoming something of a restoration than a quick drivetrain swap.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797093 posted 05/29/09 02:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Coming along good nate,keep up the good work.

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797112 posted 05/29/09 03:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Funny, I was all ready to order some POR15 to do the undercoat and all the exposed cast steel parts on the car (brake calipers, engine block, xcase, rear dif), and was talking to my grandfather about it. Seems he's used it on his ModelT ford before and my local Napa autoparts stocks it. AWESOME.

Looking like tuesday Ill have another full day to clean parts, start undercoating, and maybe start working on the wiring harnesses. I'm planning to strip out all the wiring for ABS, AC, emissions solenoids, and misc wiring that isn't hooked up.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797169 posted 05/29/09 06:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I wish I had a lift so I could do that too, but my jackstands did me just fine



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798010 posted 06/02/09 12:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wish I had the time and space to do such a nice job
looks pretty bad ass so far keep the pics coming.


Edited by Blown1 (06/02/09 12:50 AM)

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1299/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798019 posted 06/02/09 01:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Would you like to make a thread about your garage and some stuff you would recommend other get if they were building something like it?

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798050 posted 06/02/09 07:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Blown1:

Wish I had the time and space to do such a nice job
looks pretty bad ass so far keep the pics coming.




Im working on it today, hopefully doing some undercoating and getting the rear subframe and diff ready to go in. New pics tonight.

Thankfully, my work situation suits this perfectly. I'm a wedding photographyer, so I make my income on the weekends. The DSMpartout.com thing makes some side cash for vacations and fixing up this car. I spend the rest of my time watching my two boys during the week, playing Mr Mom. Generally get atleast one, sometimes two full days to work in the garage each week from inlaws and grandparents watching the boys.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798051 posted 06/02/09 07:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 1badgvr4:

Would you like to make a thread about your garage and some stuff you would recommend other get if they were building something like it?




I can do something like that.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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NateCrisman
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798270 posted 06/02/09 08:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Today was NOT fun. I degreased and washed the entire underbody in prep for Por15 rust inhibitor paint. The degreaser I used seems to eat skin and turn the underbody coating into drippy slime. This was a suck ass job if there ever was one to do on a car. It's clean enough to lick now, all the black undercoating dries off clean and not sticky.

On a good note, the floor of the garage is spotless now after being squeegied.

The car has to dry tonight and I'm planning to go put a coat on tomorrow afternoon.

Some pics:



I found that my local Napa stocks just about all the Por15 products & $44 for a quart was cheaper than online anyway vs shipping.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com


Edited by NateCrisman (06/02/09 08:59 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798285 posted 06/02/09 09:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting NateCrisman:

Quoting 1badgvr4:

Would you like to make a thread about your garage and some stuff you would recommend other get if they were building something like it?




I can do something like that.


Thank ya kindly.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798603 posted 06/03/09 07:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got the main portion of the underbody coated in Por 15 today, again, a suck nuts job brushing it on. It didn't help that the stuff gets sticky just about instantly as it was raining out and is a major workout to brush.

tomorrow I'm hoping to wash the wheel wells in the morning after removing the front ABS wires and plastic fender liners. Maybe tomorrow night por15 the fender areas and any touchup spots I find.

That's me in the corner.



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GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798644 posted 06/03/09 08:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That is an awesome shot of the chassis. Nice work!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798969 posted 06/04/09 06:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Great work. I wish I had the time to do something like that to mine.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 799076 posted 06/05/09 01:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
things coming along great, keep up the great work man

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 799330 posted 06/05/09 07:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Got some time to break things down today and clean up a bit. I had the whole rear subframe & rear assemblies from both GVR4s in the garage as well as the front suspension assembly from 139 to take apart. So they all got torn down, the good parts in one pile and the rusty junk went into my monster pile of scrap steel.

Then I had 4 big coffee cans of bolts and all the control arms, axles, diffs, one subframe and misc stuff to degrease and wash. That rear subframe from 931 was not really rusty, but holy crap it was disgusting from a leaky rear diff pinion seal.

So still getting parts cleaned and ready for another major POR painting. Now that the unibody is spotless clean underneith, everything that gets bolted to it must be the same: brand new or fresh cleaned.

I think when I'm done, this is going to end up to nice to daily drive or take out in the snow/salt.



GVR4 #418/2000: [email protected] - pump/alky -
GVR4 #431/1000: [email protected]+
GVR4 #139/1000: T3T4: [email protected] - 14B: [email protected] (sold)

www.PerformancePartout.com

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