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Looking for front door card removal tips...


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250279 posted 01/08/21 07:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I expected that removing the door card would be pretty straightforward, but I was mistaken.

I have been defeated and am now asking for help.

Here's where I'm stuck...


Looking at the picture, I've removed the following:
Triangle/Sail panel
Two screws on the left side of the panel (upper, and lower left of the speaker cover)
Door release cover
Door handle
Lower light
Two screws on the right side of the panel (upper and lower)

I understand there are three hooks/clips along the bottom of the door card and that I need to pull the door card up rather than pry out. This is where the problem lies.

When trying to pull the door card up, there is more upward movement on the lower left and center clips than the lower right. In addition to that, there is no movement along the top of the door card. The silver trim piece along the top of the door does not move.

If I try pushing up from the bottom, the door card begins to bulge out in the center.

I'm hesitant to apply more force than I've already used. In fact, I'm surprised this thirty year old plastic and cardboard hasn't already broken.

I have not yet tried removing the driver side door panel. Once I figure out how to remove the passenger side, I expect that one will likely pop right off with no trouble at all.

Does anyone have any helpful tips to remove this thing before I break something?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250280 posted 01/09/21 01:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Service manual chap42 pg76 click

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250282 posted 01/09/21 08:03 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Good morning. Based upon your notes I will add before you begin to push upward, you need to begin by prying preferably with a plastic trim tool outward starting at the bottom.

*There are three or four black plastic squarish tabs that the door card must clear which can only be accomplished by prying out outward first.

Lastly, the door lock tab should be depressed in the lock position for clearance when you do push upward.

Hope this tip helps. If you still have trouble please post.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250283 posted 01/09/21 11:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 467:

Service manual chap42 pg76 click




Thanks for the link.

I probably should have added that I have the manual and referenced it yesterday to make sure I wasn't missing anything obvious and confirm the location and style of clips. Beyond that, it wasn't much help.

...also spent some time searching this site.

The panel seems to be stuck along the top against the glass.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250284 posted 01/09/21 11:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting pot:

Good morning. Based upon your notes I will add before you begin to push upward, you need to begin by prying preferably with a plastic trim tool outward starting at the bottom.

*There are three or four black plastic squarish tabs that the door card must clear which can only be accomplished by prying out outward first.

Lastly, the door lock tab should be depressed in the lock position for clearance when you do push upward.

Hope this tip helps. If you still have trouble please post.




Thanks, I'll give this a shot.

I did try prying out in an attempt to peek between the panel and door yesterday, but didn't try out and up simultaneously.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250285 posted 01/09/21 02:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



It's probably been over 20 years since I've taken that off, but I remember it being pretty smooth sailing. It's hard to make out from the pic what that it, but it looks like something might be holding it on.

Good luck.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250287 posted 01/09/21 03:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, the poorly focused old phone just doesn't capture as much detail as I'd like.

That's just a plastic washer that has become one with the panel (like the one above it).

Here's what you spotted ...(minus the screw)


Anyway, gave it another go this morning with no luck.

Decided to move on to the driver's side. Same issue over there. All screws removed. There's nothing holding the panel to the door. The driver's side allows for easier upward movement of the panel with more play than the passenger side. What seems to be holding the door panels on (both sides) is the silver/chrome trim along the top of the door that runs parallel with the window. It doesn't move at all when pushing or pulling up on the panel. When I push/pull the panel up, it begins to bow out in the center since the top of the panel remains secured to the door. I can't figure this one out. It's either some little thing that I've now missed on both sides, or thirty years has fused these pieces together.



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Edited by moduleunknown (01/09/21 03:56 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250288 posted 01/09/21 04:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'd imagine maybe one of or a few of the plastic clips might have hardened or become brittle over time. I ordered something very close to this.

click

They are super cheap, and you can get something nicer and more expensive, but I'd think that might be the right path.

I suspect you are doing the right thing, just dealing with age and plastic dry rot.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250289 posted 01/09/21 04:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Success!


Figured it out. The issue was two-fold.


Along the top of the panel are metal u-clips with teeth. See blurry photo...


Those had really dug into the door!


I had to get a small hook in there and really pull up hard before they let go.

...and my second issue was a piece of vinyl on the back side of the door that had hooked itself to one of the plastic screw clips on the right side of the door (also near the top). When pressing/pulling up, that required additional force which slightly tore the vinyl on the inside before it let loose. Pic attached.


Fun times!

Thanks for the suggestions.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250308 posted 01/13/21 12:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Late to the party, but I was going to suggest it was just stuck on hard at the top. I recall those toothed clips now. I have usually put in a non-marring tool along that top lip to get it started in the upward direction the first time removing.

Doesn't sound like you missed it, but there is also that lower screw buried in the carpet strip along the bottom of the door that is ofter hard to see.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1250313 posted 01/14/21 10:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I am glad someone else posted about this, because I have had the same problem getting the card off, or not off in my case. Thank you for posting this

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