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coyotes
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1226/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152215 posted 12/16/13 11:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here I'll add my car to the mix for fun. Just bought it a week or two ago down in Portland, came all stock other than a 1g shifter assembly. Also came with an extra rebuilt (unassembled) short block and a 1g 3" turbo back exhaust. Gonna do some mods here slowly after I go through and do a lot of maintenance. Here's a pic of how it sits now. Car has 163,000 miles, zero rust.








Maintenance and modifications done:

-Timing belt + assorted goodies
-Koyo radiator + hoses + OEM CTS + thermostat
-1g shifter
-3" turboback exhaust w/ magnaflow muffler and high flow cat
-NGK spark plugs
-NGK plug wires
-MTL in transmission
-Cruise control delete



Pretty exciting, I know. Chime in with some additional recommended maintenance and I'll add it to the list.



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Edited by coyotes (04/03/14 08:24 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152216 posted 12/16/13 11:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Can anyone give me some information regarding the 1g exhaust? Looks like it needs to be lengthened a little bit. Maybe modify the exhaust hangars? I bought a high flow cat off ebay, so that should take care of the length issue. Just need to know if there is anything else that should be done. Looks simple but I have only done a quick glance.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152217 posted 12/16/13 11:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I believe a 2g downpipe should do the trick for the extra length you need.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152218 posted 12/16/13 11:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I already have a 1g down pipe, it's a full turbo back. Just no cat on it, and I want to stay legal, so using my high flow cat will add the length needed.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152238 posted 12/17/13 08:11 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
if i remember right i think you need to add a couple inches to the rear section. but i didnt end up using a 1g exhaust, i made a custom one.

you can do a search... you will find a million posts saying to search...



looks good though, keep us updated!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152240 posted 12/17/13 08:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks nice, clean behind the quarter panel and front door jambs.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152291 posted 12/17/13 05:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm on it

May detail it in the next few days, well see how it turns out.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152355 posted 12/18/13 01:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Welp, off to a great start with the Galant. After having the timing belt done, car ran fine for about 50 miles, but started it up earlier and it ran like crap. engine vibrated over 3000k rpms, felt down on power. Brought it back to my mechanic, he said the timing had jumped and the tensioner had failed. So I have ordered another tensioner, I get another one tomorrow. Hopefully it all goes back together tomorrow with no issues, but now I am scared this has damaged my engine. Hopefully not, and hopefully my mechanic is not just an idiot who may have ruined my engine. :bang head: He said the exhaust timing jumped 3 teeth and the oil pump was off 180 degrees...

We will see tomorrow. At least I have another engine to put in it if necessary. May have to start thinking about options for that…

If only I had a garage or workspace right now this would never have been a problem.



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Edited by coyotes (12/18/13 01:36 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152359 posted 12/18/13 02:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Sounds like you mechanic may not have tentioned the pulley.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152369 posted 12/18/13 07:48 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^Agreed. It's more likely your mechanic tensioned the belt wrong, not that you have a tensioner failing. I've never seen a new tensioner fail right out of the box, even off brand parts store units. In addition, I just don't see how it's possible for the cam to only slip 3 teeth and the oil pump/balance shaft to be out 180. The facts suggest he screwed up the install, and there's no way I'd be paying for another tensioner if I were you.



Quoting G:

Looks nice, clean behind the quarter panel and front door jambs.



Just to clarify, I believe G is referring to clean where the front fender meets the body behind the wheel well. You need to actually remove the front fenders to clean this area. Shit builds up in there over time, and causes unseen rust issues. You have to remove the fender liners as well, so I'd clean behind them too while they are off.



Edited by GSTwithPSI (12/18/13 09:33 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152379 posted 12/18/13 09:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
yeah I am pretty sure he just screwed it up. I am hoping there was no damage, but I don't know with that amount of slipping of the belt. :bang head:

I exchanged the part at the parts store, I didn't buy another one. so we will see. and thanks for the info about the fenders, I will get to that eventually, right now I have to wait to see what's going on with my engine. Sucks that I just got this car and it's already screwed up.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152388 posted 12/18/13 11:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ya there is a very specific way to tension the belt properly.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152389 posted 12/18/13 11:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Sounds like he may have tension the the tensioner pulley in the wrong direction.

50 miles is about what I normally hear when they have been tension in the wrong direction, and the lock bolt becomes loose.

Good chance if it is still running that you may have not bent valves.

Was the Hyd tensioner a OE MD164533 ?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152392 posted 12/18/13 11:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Also, if the oil sprocket is off, no real damaged could occur, just horrible vibrations due to the balance shafts out of alignment. So your only concern here is the condition of the head. Of course with a balance shift elimination, the oil sprocket will not have to be aligned.

Good luck!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152402 posted 12/18/13 01:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Really wishing I knew someone in seattle area that could be trusted with my engine...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152425 posted 12/18/13 03:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Trust yourself. This is for a 2g/7 bolt but the 6 bolt is about the same the crank marks are in a different location.

click

Once you read this, it will make more sense.

Add about $80 for specialty tools that make the job that much simpler.

Step #28 I would bet is where the issue is.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152427 posted 12/18/13 03:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The 2g guide says to do it counter clockwise, the 1g guide says go to clockwise… so which is it?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152428 posted 12/18/13 03:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I go CCW, that way if the bolt loosens, the pulley will move with the belt and tighten up.

Going CW, the belt will kick the pulley and let the belt go slack and skip teeth.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152431 posted 12/18/13 03:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I gave my mechanic the 1g guide so I guess that will have to do.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152456 posted 12/18/13 06:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting BogusSVO:

Trust yourself.




^Truth. If you don't get proficient at working on your own car, I promise that you'll probably have more threads like this in the future. You own a 20+ year old car now, and on top of that, these cars have a history of being a pain in the ass. Use the resources here, and the help of the forum members to get the job done. If you don't have a space to work on the car, that's understandable, but I'd do my best to get to know my way around the car to the best of my ability. I guarantee you can handle a timing belt job, and could save that money for mods or whatever. If the mechanic is going to screw things up, you might as well take your chances and screw things up yourself, and at least get the experience. However the job gets done, I hope you get back in it quickly and enjoy the car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152459 posted 12/18/13 06:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks, I am mechanically inclined and typically DO all my own mechanical work, but bigger jobs or other things right now go to my mechanic as I am out of space to work on the car. But yes I have been feeling very stupid and yes this is a job I could have done myself. This is what I get for going the easy way, and believe me I already have learned that lesson a few times coming from a background of modified turbo volvos…

Let's just hope nothing is screwed up and I can move forward from this.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152460 posted 12/18/13 06:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah man, I completely understand, and can relate to being limited on space. Hopefully the second time is a charm!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152493 posted 12/18/13 11:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
sucks man. reminds me of mine though. i had mine going for just a little while. started hearing funny noise, check it out, dont see anything. then notice my timing belt is fraid on one side. the balance shaft belt broke, bent the plate between the two belts and was cutting into the timing belt! luckily caught it before it broke/jumped time.

i had a good friend thats a DSM guru help me out/do it. i have done tons of Honda DOHC/VTEC motors, was little scared to do something different without someone watching me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1152532 posted 12/19/13 08:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There are a few guys on here from Washington state. I'd find one with a garage and make friends with them. From what I've seen most people on here will bend over backwards to help someone out. I learned early on in my car modding days to just work on my own stuff. No need to pay someone to screw your car up.

As far as the oil pump being out of phase I bet if he would have went a few more rounds it would have lined up.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1153053 posted 12/22/13 11:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Welp, Christmas has been good to me and I'm ready to start throwing many dollars at the galant to get it fixed up. Hopefully will be getting the timing checked out by next weekend, got a lot of parts headed my way for various stuff. Sad I can't drive it but I can wait for now. Been driving my truck and carpooling so life isn't so bad.

I am anxious to be driving it again though.



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