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Re: New Owner Of 1837/2000


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1211539 posted 07/05/15 10:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I started to make some more improvements on the clutch system today. Installed a new 1G clutch master with the larger fluid reservoir. I have an ACT 2600 and 6 puck sprung disc on the way to go with it. Not looking forward to pulling the transmission though...




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1211548 posted 07/06/15 10:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looking at your photos, 2 questions...

First, a newb question: Are those the brakes off a 3000GT? I've been looking for a wheel/brake combo that spares me a 5-lug conversion and your setup looks very nice.

Second, how many exhaust studs have you had to drill out and replace? I noticed the nut on the pass-side end of the FP manifold and felt a twinge of pain as I remembered the I spent with EH Motorsports drilling out 2 studs, then h-coiling all of the holes.

Bonus question: how has your exhaust held up? My FP mani warped with a few months and now I've got a slight leak that abates once the car warms up. One of these days I'll pull everything off and have the manifold resurfaced, but for now, the agony of drilling out the seized bolts on the turbo from the last time I had to pull that f'in thing off is still too fresh in my mind.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1211585 posted 07/06/15 09:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The front calipers are off of a 3KGT. If you're thinking about doing the conversion, you'll need a wheel with a ton of clearance.

As far as the exhaust studs go, I've never had to drill them out on any 4G63 I've ever owned. Maybe I've just been lucky
I use the copper hardware and washers, as well as anti-sieze on all of my exhaust hardware. That's always worked for me over the years.

My FP mani is holding up fine. I've never had any warping issues that I can tell. No warping, no cracks, nothing. I know they don't like to be exhaust wrapped though, so not sure if you have ever done that or not. I just put a manifold blanket on mine, so we'll see how it holds up to that in the long run.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213467 posted 07/28/15 08:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Got some work done on the car this weekend. Started by installing the new clutch and TOB:




Then built a bastard 20G:










The put on my sweet oil cap that Jason made for us:




The clutch feels better than it ever has. The ACT 2600 with the 6 puck sprung disk is the perfect compromise between streetability and grabby performance. Also, the clutch fork is directly in the middle of the window where it should be. The trans shifts fairly smooth at high RPM, and I'm not fighting the trans like I was before. The car feels much better overall.

I'm still on Evo 560s and the B16G. I'd like to take the car back to the track and see what I can squeeze out of this setup on a good clutch. Afterwards, I have FIC 1050s and the bastard 20G ready to drop in. Also, high on the priority list is new intercooler piping. I've got a local shop waiting to do the custom piping job, so after the Shootout I can dedicate some time to that. I'm not sure where I'm going to go with the next turbo setup, but I'll be on the lookout for something bigger to replace the bastard with as budget allows.

At this point, I just need to put some miles on the car to gauge how it will handle the trip to the Shootout. It seems like I'm always wrenching on this thing right up until crunch time...So I've still gotta decide if 1837 is going to make the trip to Ohio this year or not

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213745 posted 08/02/15 11:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Drove to breakfast this morning. The new clutch feels great. Added a bit of camber too, which tucks the wheels nicely.





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213749 posted 08/02/15 12:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That little bit of camber made a big difference. Looks about perfect now. Car is too clean.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213794 posted 08/02/15 10:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks, David. I'm doing my best to carry on where you left off with the staggered setup on 1951

How's your old car doing, anyways?



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Edited by GSTwithPSI (08/02/15 10:24 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213796 posted 08/02/15 10:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks good! Any rubbage?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213799 posted 08/02/15 10:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nah, no rubbing. There's actually a lot more clearance than there looks to be...Although, I really haven't pushed it through any real corners to truly test it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213800 posted 08/02/15 11:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I love those far off shots. I always liked walking up to my car from a distance. I think these cars look great. Nice work.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1213804 posted 08/03/15 01:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting GSTwithPSI:

How's your old car doing, anyways?




Word on the street is the guy wadded it up a few months in. Body was not much of a loss, but vr4 evo spec drivetrain would be nice to recover. Maybe a few other things. I tried getting in contact with him and no luck. Anthony did too, with similar results IIRC. Not a big deal, just hope the valuable-to-us bits find a good home.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1214548 posted 08/13/15 09:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Made some more changes to 1837.

I started by replacing the factory puller fan with something that moves a bit more air. I got a good deal on a 14" SPAL slim fan, which is rated at nearly 1300 CFM. I'm hoping this will drop my temps a bit at idle, and it opens up some more space in the engine bay. It barely fit on the radiator next to the other slim puller I have set up (which it dwarfs in comparison).




Bastard 20G is on. Also installed a tubular O2 housing.





FIC 1050s are in as well. Rebuilt and flow tested by FIC; installed with all new seals.




Also got some bumpz...




Installed. I'll eventually re-carpet the trunk area and make everything look nicer.






Installed my 60mm Greddy water temp gauge.






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Edited by GSTwithPSI (08/15/15 02:48 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220055 posted 11/10/15 09:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Last time I was at the track, one of the fan blades on my SPAL fan snapped off. So, threw on a replacement. Now rocking Dual 13" SPAL fans. They work awesome.



Last month at East Coast MOD, I got to meet up again with Sal desant78 at his shop following the meet. He and his friend Phil run Side Street Motorsports, a custom car and fabrication shop. 1837 has been in need of a legit intercooler piping setup for some time now, and the guys at Side Street Motorsports agreed to take on the job. So, last Sunday I drove to car 2 hours to Sal's shop in NJ, and spent the day hanging out while he and Phil custom made a boss ass short route aluminum piping setup for 1837.


So, rolled in and found Sal's 995/1000 JSB in typical GVR-4 fashion. Sal's currently in the process of some major overhauls on the car.




After a few sausage & egg McMuffin's, we got down to business, and started tearing stuff apart.



I'm currently on an aftermarket Evo 8 core. In order to configure the core for a short route piping setup, I needed to have the driver side end tank modified to relocate the outlet. The fabricator, Phil, made short work of modifications by welding up the old outlet and replacing it with a new one.






Next, they mocked up the cold side pipes, starting with the lower intercooler outlet pipe.



Then, they fabbed up the upper intercooler pipe and BOV flange.




Here's the entire cold side.





Next came the hot side. My biggest concern was the J-pipe. On nearly every J-pipe I've seen, they are always built like shit. The ones that aren't necked down ridiculously small always compromise clearance near the exhaust manifold. I needed plenty of clearance with my FP manifold, and additionally, I'm running a manifold blanket which required even more clearance. I also always hated how most J-pipes have a coupler positioned right over the manifold. I expressed my concerns/desires of the J-pipe design to Sal and Phil, and they delivered a piece that far exceeded my expectations.


They started mocking up the hot side on my car.




Then Sal mocked it up after it was welded together on his long block, which shows the routing and clearance.






And here are a few shots off the car.






Here's the entire setup: 3 pipes, 4 couplers (90* TB coupler not pictured), and the intercooler. This truly turned out awesome!



Lastly, the final product.






The best part of the whole process was I got to be in the shop the entire time Sal and Phil were working on the car to give them my input (not that they even needed it). They were open to my ideas, and were willing to hear me out and do the job like I wanted it done. I'd highly recommend the services at Side Street Motorsports, and I couldn't be happier with how everything turned out.

I was in awe of how much of a performance increase I saw with the new piping setup. I'm seeing significantly reduced spool times, and the car feels much quicker. I will do some logging and make some comparisons against old logs. Suffice it to say, this was a long needed, and an extremely beneficial upgrade.

Lastly, BIG thanks to Sal and Phil! I had a blast hanging out, and enjoyed checking out some of the other cool projects they were working on around the shop. They had stuff ranging from a turbo H6 swapped STI to a LS2 swapped 350Z; all of which can be found on their FB page.



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Edited by GSTwithPSI (11/11/15 08:22 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220057 posted 11/10/15 10:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice work! J Pipe and overall length are excellent. Engine bay is really looking good now. Like how you kept the BOV out of sight.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220060 posted 11/10/15 10:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks good dude!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220067 posted 11/11/15 12:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting ApexHunter:

Nice work! J Pipe and overall length are excellent. Engine bay is really looking good now. Like how you kept the BOV out of sight.




That was one of my favorite parts of the kit, how the BOV was kept hidden and still recirculated.

It was a blast hanging out with Brett and building the kit. Best part was his face when we went for a test drive and he was so happy with the results. The first car I ever tried to work on was 1662, in 2010. I learned so much from this community as a result, and its great to reach a point where I can now help people like Brett and such a great example of a vr4.

Like Brett said, if anyone on the forum is interested in any parts of this kit, feel free to PM and we could help you out. We are in South Jersey, so if anyone is local feel free to come by amd see the shop! I'm honestly just stoked to be a small part of how great this car is coming out.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220068 posted 11/11/15 12:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Awesome work! I do like that you don't see the couplers too! Engine bay looks amazing!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220083 posted 11/11/15 08:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very nice set-up. Welds are beautiful and the pipes are clean. Looks great. Even the flow through the EVO core is will done. That J-pipe is well done. Best I've ever seen.


Perhaps this will be our ETS replacements?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220086 posted 11/11/15 08:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I wouldn't mind having a j-pipe like that for my ets kit!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220094 posted 11/11/15 09:48 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
One of the things Sal and I discussed was the possibility of Side Street Motorsports producing copies of this kit if there was enough interest. I told Sal I would be more than willing to come back by the shop and have Phil make some jigs so they could reproduce these. I can't speak to what these would be priced at, but I'm pretty confident that Sal could offer these to the community below what the ETS kit is priced at. That's assuming you can even get an ETS kit anymore, since last I heard ETS isn't even producing kits for the VR-4 anymore.

So, some overall details on the setup:

-Intercooler
The Evo 8 core I'm using actually has more surface area than the ETS core. It's also significantly cheaper: click . I'm not saying it's superior, just stating the facts. I picked mine up BNIB from a buddy cheap, so they are around used as well. In the current configuration, Phil modified the hot side inlet by hacking off the old 2.5" inlet pipe, and welded in a new 2.25" pipe which relocates the inlet so it's routed through the core support. The cold side outlet stays as is @ 2.5". The mounting tabs are bent over, and can be modified to fit stock mounting points already located on the car.

-Piping
It's all 2.25" aluminum. I currently have a 3" N/T throttle body, with a 3" 90* coupler. The UICP is expanded up to 3" to fit the TB coupler and the lower cold pipe is expanded to 2.5" to fit the cold side IC outlet. You could easily get reducing couplers that neck down to the 2.25" piping rather than expanding the piping.

-J-pipe
I gotta give it to Phil, this thing is a work of art. The J-pipe is entirely 2.25" up until it's necked down at the compressor outlet. Phil was able to create an awesome transition from the 2.25" pipe to the J-pipe flange. The J-pipe flange is produced in house by Side Street Motorsports. The pipe routes directly to the IC inlet and connects via a coupler through the core support. No coupler over the manifold, and there is a ton of clearance between the J-pipe and #4 exhaust manifold runner.

There's not cutting required anywhere, and A/C is retained. Like stated above, it's 4 couplers, 3 pipes and an intercooler. Super simple.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220102 posted 11/11/15 11:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
From memory, that IC does not look like a stock Evo 8. Similar, but differently shaped tanks.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220104 posted 11/11/15 11:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's not a stock core. It's an aftermarket/upgraded core meant for the Evo 8.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220107 posted 11/11/15 11:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ok, what I thought, but the posts were not specific on that.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220108 posted 11/11/15 12:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You missed the line about an aftermarket evo 8 core then. It's there. Granted it's a lot to read, but it's mentioned.

Ok, lets start the inevitable argument on steel pipes versus aluminum...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1220113 posted 11/11/15 12:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Looks awesome Brett! I see they're proving the Eastwood tig is worth a damn too. You hear so many horror stories about welders these days and I'm sure most of the bad comes from people who have no idea what they're doing.



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