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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1194024 posted 11/15/14 06:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197980 posted 01/03/15 04:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Replaced my ECU because it showed water damage and got my throttle body rebuilt. Threw it all in just now and have been experiencing idle surge. I am pretty sure I got all the air bubbles out of the coolant, but I don't see any obvious vac leaks? Any thoughts? Car runs and drives ok but has idle surge at a stop.

What is the % value supposed to be for the closed TPS position? My datalogger reads 13.6%, shouldn't it be lower? At WOT it goes to nearly 100%. I don't think that closed position would cause idle surge.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197981 posted 01/03/15 05:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My first guess for the idle surge would be a mis-adjusted BISS. Turn off the car, and screw the BISS all the way in until it bottoms out. Then, unscrew it 3 complete turns, and see if the car still surges. I'm assuming there are no vac leaks, boost leaks, yadda yadda yadda...

As far as the logger goes, it has been years since I've used one. However, I don't understand why idle wouldn't read 0, and WOT read 100%. After all, that logically makes sense. Sounds to me like the TPS isn't adjusted properly, so adjust it before you go screwing with the BISS.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197984 posted 01/03/15 05:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The BISS is screwed in all the way. If I come out with it it just idles higher, and still idle surges. The guy who rebuilt my throttle body I am sure put the TPS to spec as that is part of his services, but maybe not. Is it the throttle stop switch or the TPS that adjusts what % the throttle plate closes to at idle?

Before I took the throttle body out I think the TPS still didn't show a 0%, it was closer to 9-11% I think.



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Edited by coyotes (01/03/15 05:21 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197987 posted 01/03/15 05:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
As far as I know the only boost leaks on the car was the throttle shaft seals and those were replaced. I put everything back the way it was before, but maybe there is a new leak somewhere. I double checked everything though.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197988 posted 01/03/15 05:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If the BISS is completely bottomed out and you're still surging, there's an underlying issue.

The "throttle stop switch" (more commonly known as the idle switch) should be adjusted so that it is triggered when the throttle is completely closed, but not so it hinders the throttle plate from completely closing in any way. If it is holding the throttle plate open even a tiny amount, it's wrong.

The TPS is adjusted by loosening the 2 little screws that hold it to the TB. You can then move it either direction so that resistance value is in spec at both closed throttle and WOT. Spec here ---> click

I would adjust it manually according to the article above, rather than go by whatever your logger is saying. Reason being, neither of us know what the hell the closed throttle and WOT reading on your logger should be, so that makes it pretty hard to make accurate adjustments.


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Edited by GSTwithPSI (01/03/15 05:46 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197990 posted 01/03/15 05:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm feeling like I installed the throttle body gasket wrong, but I can't find a diagram to show what was the right way.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197995 posted 01/03/15 06:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I fixed it. Like an idiot I put the gasket in the wrong way. Car still idles high though, close to 1900 rpm. cable isn't tight on the throttle body and biss screw is all the way in.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197996 posted 01/03/15 06:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Did you adjust the TPS?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197999 posted 01/03/15 06:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nope, I don't have a multimeter. According to the throttlebodys.com guy it should have all been put in spec. But maybe not?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198001 posted 01/03/15 07:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Unplug the TPS with the car running and see of the RPMs change.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198004 posted 01/03/15 07:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
damn and here I was hoping to never have to take off and put that stupid metal clip back on again. I will screw around with it tomorrow and see.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198015 posted 01/03/15 10:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting coyotes:

I fixed it. Like an idiot I put the gasket in the wrong way..




i did this. about had a fit and burned the car to the ground. was a mentally exhausting day, didnt help i was doing it at night in my driveway.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198020 posted 01/04/15 12:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You're supposed to install the clip on to the plug first. Then you plug it back in.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1198023 posted 01/04/15 03:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'll try that. The strut bar makes it a billion times more difficult to install the clip otherwise



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1199529 posted 01/24/15 12:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Not much has been new. got the throttle body rebuilt and reinstalled. discovered a crack in the intake manifold which may or may not be leaking air? I am replacing it with a different intake manifold. Car also now has a different AWD 5 speed 1g ecu that has newer caps on it. I miss the nice weather to be able to knock out all kinds of work on the car.

But in other news, I am moving to a friend's house who has a garage and air tools soon. Hopefully will be able to start doing more work on the car again frequently. My new engine is complete, that will go in some time this year.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1199924 posted 01/27/15 09:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Now that you have a garage to work in don't go JSB!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1199927 posted 01/27/15 09:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't want to. and I can't leave cars in there but I can use it to work on things.

I discovered a crack in the intake manifold, so I have a new one to swap in, along with a different coilpack to hopefully get the issues with my car straightened out.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1200013 posted 01/28/15 06:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You get the idle sorted out?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1200019 posted 01/28/15 07:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The crack is probably your issue.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1200021 posted 01/28/15 07:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This weekend. I don't think the Crack is causing a leak though. But going to do my injector seals while I'm in there.

the Crack has been there a while, I've done nothing to cause it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1201141 posted 02/08/15 04:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Got a different TPS as my old one tested bad, got it dialed in. Although, I can get it in spec with the multimeter, it reads closer to 16% with MMCD. Car runs better if I spec it with multimeter or put TPS to 10% with the datalogger. I am not sure which value I should stick with.

Unfortunately the car still has a high idle, 1500-2000 rpms. I readjusted the throttle stop switch to spec, but no change in idle. I can't find any air leaks anywhere so I'm not sure what's going on. Next up, replace the intake manifold I guess. I don't suspect the crack to be leaking air, it has been there since I've owned the car as far as I know.



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Edited by coyotes (02/08/15 04:43 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1201805 posted 02/16/15 07:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
An update on things. Replaced the intake manifold, got a new coilpack. This seems to have fixed my weird cutting out issue and the TPS/coilpack codes being thrown. Car still idles high though. I did a boost leak test, fixed some leaks, but no change in idle. It will idle around 1500rpm with the throttle switch unplugged. With it in, it idles around 1200 but idle surges.

Any thoughts?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1201812 posted 02/16/15 09:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is the BISS still bottomed out?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1201815 posted 02/16/15 09:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Yes. actually after driving it more it seems to have stabilized out, the car is idling closer to 1100 now. it still wants to creep up sometimes to about 1400 and then surge down to 1200, repeat.



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