Hopefully ver 2.0 is without problems like Vinny's ver 1.0
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Ok your back. The day I posted Vinny's pictures I got a few PM's and post of people wanting these today after Garfield posted that Curtisco industries builds these I have a few more so this I guess is official I'm going to do a run but how many is a run. 5 12 30
So as it stands yes I'll do a run but If I can get some definite yes's, not if my moneyz right at the time, excuses excuses group buy like as happened here before. But yes I want a set and yes I will pay the price when there done. Now with that said as for price right now I don't know I have to figure out how long it takes per set and what all materials are involved etc. Having more wanting them will help with the price because the more materials the better the deal I get from the metal supplier. Its not a big corporation I deal with but some good old boys and good old boys don't like 2 ft of this and 4 feet of that going on, isn't worth there time I guess.
Now what I'm thinking the rear will be almost like Vinny's one straight stick of steel with a bracket for the odd placed factory seat mount on the car and spaced so the level side to side is correct. Then one tab for the one rail and one hole for the other. We did this because that's the way the front brackets we used left us but I'm planning on front adjustable brackets as well so the one tab maybe left out and the straight piece in the back will have two slots cut so the installer (you) can adjust side to side to perfect the install that with the way the fronts will be designed will make this almost infinite in positioning. Keep reading
As for the fronts we used the side pieces from the evo. I'm sure some of you will buy seats with these brackets missing plus I can build nicer ones anyway. What I'm thinking of is in the front have 4 pieces of aluminum angle. The bottom one will mount to the floor and have a slot cut from side to side. Then the top will have a slot front to rear for bolting to the seat then the sides will have opposite slots cut in them so the installer (you) can adjust angle to suit your comfort zone/ leg support. Aftermarket seats should fit like a glove hold you in place and make you an extension of the car. The old CRX recaros in my car were originally recovered and in my Mustang. I pulled them when I sold it to my neighbor and when he bitched I said oh well, they have been tweaked pulled on and formed to fit me. Nothing I hate more than driving a so called pred car that the seats are crooked yawed out or not centered on the wheel. Hell I've sat in factory cars before and the wheel not centered and the first thing I think of is if they didn't get that part right what else did the engineers scrimp on. Angles will probably be 3/16 aluminum with the corners gusseted and the rear will be steel tubing. I would like to do all the brackets out of aluminum and mill out slots or lightining holes in them for that oh yea baby race car look but to be safe there going to be steel. That whole F=MxA comes to mind and I don't want to hear someone ate a windshield in a crash because the mounts ripped out. After you get the angle position correct you can always drill an extra hole and install a few 8mm bolts and nuts to lock everything together. I may even just leave one of the sides open and let you guys do that part. If there only 3 or 4 inches total in length not a lot of room for a bunch of wildly placed bolts. If I mill two perfectly spaced holes you guys can always drill two holes and install the hardware. Probably end up cleaner that way.
Now we learned with Vinny's that the little front mounts put the seat centerline with the wheel and also gave room on the outside of the car to adjust the seat recline position. Why in hell did the mitsu designeers let crank up recliners make it to production. I guess they are safer because the notches in a pull lever style can strip out, I just hate them so much. Anyway.
If your wanting a set of these post away. I'm going to go into my PM's and get names out as well if they don't show up on the list. Don't want to leave anyone out. As for when. Its almost Christmas, peoples money is tight I for one know the deal, I work for me and know this all to well. But should be able to work in a prototype with other stuff I have going on and finishing stuff I need to get completed. Then I'll know better on a price and what it will cost to ship and will also know if the prototype is a perfect fit. So I don't go and build a bunch that all need modifications to fit. As for why I like doing these little group buys. makes it cheaper on the consumer and also easier and more worth the effort on my end. The JDM bumper brackets I build take a few hours each to do if I do one set but If I get a stick of aluminum and cut 10 or 20 it takes all day plus the extra for each cut and then cleaning up aluminum chips everywhere from the table saw and mill. But is just easier to do because I do one step 20 times then move one. Some parts you can't do this but stuff like this is what mass production is meant for. Plus I don't like doing non VR4 stuff. I had a few sentences about me not ever bringing myself to building honda / ricer stuff no matter how much money was involved but removed them because I didn't want to offend anyone.
So if you want a set put your name on the list. As I get time in the next few weeks I'll do a prototype and update with a price and some pictures. I'll post the list in the next post just add to it at the bottom, no line jumping Mark we're watching you , it doesn't matter anyway I'll build and ship with in a few days of each other. Thanks Curtis