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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874038 posted 02/13/10 09:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Okay, I am greasy, buzzed, and pissed. How the hell do you get to the lower bolt on the alternator to change it out?? Can they make an alternator any more difficult to change??



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874040 posted 02/13/10 10:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just get a shallow socket connected to the ratchet and wiggle it through by the dipstick and take it off. If your car is warm you might want to wait a little bit until it cools down. Make shure you disconnect the battery before you start taking anything off. Ive known some ppl that forgot to do that and blow their alt fuse when they are taking the power wire off the alt and accidentally ground it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874046 posted 02/13/10 10:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ya, its all disconnected. and the f'ing nuts to disconnect the electrical just spin the studs in the alternator. this car hates me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874050 posted 02/13/10 10:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Once you get the nut off on the bolt, 12mm if I remember, then you will just have to wiggle the alternator up and down with one hand and pry with a flathead to back the bolt out. I know the first time I did it, it was a pita.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874056 posted 02/13/10 10:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
PITA big time, every time I work on this thing I want to sell it and get an old muscle car again. but then again, they done have power windows and ac



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874058 posted 02/13/10 10:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ok, do I have to remove the fender liner to get that bolt out?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874061 posted 02/13/10 10:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting deez:

PITA big time, every time I work on this thing I want to sell it and get an old muscle car again. but then again, they done have power windows and ac



lol, I don't have powersteering(dry rack) or AC in mine.

It makes life easier, think you can get away with it on, but I don't remember, just take it off.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874067 posted 02/13/10 11:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Galants are a little tighter than dsms for an alternator job but try a v-sux mercury cougar someday!!!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874076 posted 02/13/10 11:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting deez:

ok, do I have to remove the fender liner to get that bolt out?




You might have to depending on which way the bolt is facing. Also, I think the belt might be in the way too. Been a few years since I've done an alternator in the car.



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Edited by Charles (02/13/10 11:30 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874079 posted 02/13/10 11:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ok, I am drunk on oatmeal stout and its going back together. thanks for the help guys!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874088 posted 02/14/10 12:35 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Try pulling your oil filter next time.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874089 posted 02/14/10 12:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I ended up doing that too, that helped a ton.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874098 posted 02/14/10 02:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't remember the exact combination I use, but I think it's a 3/8 ratchet, a shallow 12mm socket, and a ~6" extension to get to that nut without removal of anything else. And I can usually fanagle my arm up under there without raising the car. That said, my car is clean and there is no rust under there, so YMMV.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874173 posted 02/14/10 12:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So this was pretty incredible. The car has 183k on it, and it turns out it was the original alternator. Wow, thats impressive! And some of you know I have been fighting a stumbling issue for some time. I drove it about 7 miles today and the idle is MUCH better. Not one issue. The true test will be after the computer resets and relearns everything and with the lights on, but its a huge improvement. For anyone who experiencing stumbling issues, even if the voltage checks out fine like mine did, change your alternator.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874224 posted 02/14/10 04:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yep, I had the same issues with stumbling with a small battery.

The alt does help but just look at the wire size that connects the alt to the battery. If your battery is not performing at rated power, the alt wont run the car at optimum because the wire is just not big enough to power everything we stick in our cars.

Think about how much we pull out of our power system. Most have a few gauges, some sort of tuning computer, high flow fuel pump, radio/amps, cell charger, all the dash lights, headlights, tail lights, and the ECU with all the injectors and misc sensors. The AC and ABS pumps pull major power when activated.

If your battery or Alt is not up to peak performance, you will have issues that are intermittent and can be a nightmare to troubleshoot.

Hope you have finally found your problems.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874231 posted 02/14/10 05:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting deez:

The car has 183k on it, and it turns out it was the original alternator.




Whats amazing is the power steering crush washer didn't fail before 183k.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874295 posted 02/14/10 10:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Whats the deal? I can do an alt swap in about 45 mins. This includes removing the IC hot pipe, power steering pump, belts and driver motor mount. I bet I could cut a couple mins off if I had air tools and was angry.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874299 posted 02/14/10 11:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874304 posted 02/14/10 11:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Smitty1457:

Whats the deal? I can do an alt swap in about 45 mins. This includes removing the IC hot pipe, power steering pump, belts and driver motor mount. I bet I could cut a couple mins off if I had air tools and was angry.




That's the nice thing about no PS, less stuff to take off to do this, oh and I don't remove the hot pipe or motor mount at all. I can slide it out just fine between the mount and the car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874306 posted 02/14/10 11:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm not looking forward to the day I upgrade my failing 135amp alternator with a 150amp model. It is currently attached to where the AC used to be. I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to remove my intake manifold to do the alternator replacement. YUCK.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874325 posted 02/15/10 01:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I get to remove the wastegate everytime my alt needs changed, amongst other things. Thankfully, that's not very often.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874382 posted 02/15/10 11:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Smitty1457:

Whats the deal? I can do an alt swap in about 45 mins. This includes removing the IC hot pipe, power steering pump, belts and driver motor mount. I bet I could cut a couple mins off if I had air tools and was angry.




You are just too good then You know how it is the first time you pull something, you spend a third of the time figuring out the correct approach.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874386 posted 02/15/10 11:10 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah I'm sure theres plenty of people on here including myself that could perform the job blindfolded....but I still remember my first time lol. The first part I ever put on a car besides brakes was an alternator on my 90 laser a/t n/a. I had to ask for help myself.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874404 posted 02/15/10 12:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Deez it took me all day to do my first one. Just when I started doing the job faster, Bamm alt relocater kit! Conrad had to put it on, I got frustrated, Its just really tight under there.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 874455 posted 02/15/10 04:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I was noticing how small the wire is for the alternator to the battery.....anyone put a bigger one on and notice a difference?



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