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Bolting up an EVO 8 suspension...Need advice


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169029 posted 01/05/05 07:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
For the life of me I can't find that thread that compared the EVO shocks and struts to the Galant's. Anyway, a friend of mine gave me his EVO 8 RS Shocks and Struts w/ Eibach springs and OEM springs. That same friend can make the rear mounts that I would need to bolt everything up. He's actually pretty pumped to see if this is going to work and how it will look. My questions for the guys that have messed with EVO suspensions in the past is:

  • Will this work even with the right mounts made?
  • How low will this set up be?
  • Other than rear mounts is there anything else that needs to be done? I remember reading something about the fronts as well.


Thanks for any help you guys can provide! I've been searching for these answers all morning..I guess I'm just not putting in the right search perimeters. Again, Thanks for any help.

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Pivvay
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169035 posted 01/05/05 08:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Search for "EVO 8" with the username "kartorium".

Here is a start!

See below

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Pivvay
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169036 posted 01/05/05 08:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh F it. The link is too long to add. Just search for what I said and it should come up.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169041 posted 01/05/05 08:38 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
here is the link, just clicky

I think it doesn't like the " marks in the URL.


Edited by steveVR4 (01/05/05 02:35 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169043 posted 01/05/05 08:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you Steve. I'm feeling a little retarded this morning. The puppy decided to wake up about 2 hours early

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169107 posted 01/05/05 11:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So then, is this an accurate summary regarding EVO VIII suspension?
I've searched and searched, am tired of searching, and want to clear up conflicting information:

Front: stock EVO VIII struts/shocks are a bolt-on affair, no mods required. I've seen plenty of conflicting info regarding this.

Rear: springs fit, struts require modified mount

ride: much stiffer than GVR4.

height: close to the stock GVR4 ride height, less than 1" drop if any.

cost: springs are anywhere from $25 to $150. struts are $??.

If I can get this all sorted out, I'll be doing the EVO VIII suspension on my GVR4, currrently stock suspension with 150K on it.

-Scott Y



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169120 posted 01/05/05 11:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Scott if a rear mount adapter can be made I will make one for you free of charge. See if you can get ahold of some shocks to go with your springs.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169149 posted 01/05/05 12:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You're on!
I'll keep you posted.



Scott Y

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169175 posted 01/05/05 01:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
First of all, The full evo 8 fronts (springs and struts) are awesome on the galant. They are much much better than my GC and AGX combo in both handling and ride quality. They were better at the stock ride level and even tighter after cutting the springs. These struts in my mind blow away the AGX's. I'll have some other people ride in my car this weekend for a second opinion.

I think I posted pictures somewhere. The rears might be able to work if you weld in a bushing between the "fork" style mount on the rear struts. That way it would slide onto the stock post mount deal.

I wrote all of this information in my post, but here's a summary....

-front springs and struts will make car sit stock height or higher, cutting or lowering springs are required to get a tolerable fender gap. Ride is much much better and is stiff too. Stiffer than my GC and AGX's.

-Front struts require a spacer to bolt up, and you have to build some sort of bracket to mount the brake line to. Then I just ziptied the abs line to the strut. The evo 8 brake line mounts are way low and wont' work.

-front upper evo 8 strut mounts will not work, use GVR4 mounts.

-A very stiff rear setup is required to get balanced handling with all evo fronts. With evo 8 fronts and GC and AGX's in the rear my car understeers on throttle a lot. I also have 22mil sways front and rear.

Somebody local wants my cut front springs. but I still have the rear evo struts, and the front evo struts with a crude spacer. If you want the whole set I'll sell the front struts and rears for 175$ or so.(not including springs, already taken)


Edited by kartorium (01/05/05 01:20 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169182 posted 01/05/05 01:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What kind of spacer are we talking about? I'll be happy to machine some "not crude" spacers for you guys since it looks like a lot of you are interested in installing this stuff.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169185 posted 01/05/05 01:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here's what I did:
Took a sawzall to a stock strut I had laying around and cut off both the lower mounting tabs or whatever you wanna call em. Came out with two peices of metal with the right holes already in them and in the right shape. Then I just took the grinder to em and smoothed em out and thinned em up just a tad. So the spacer needs to be a tad bit thinner than the stock strut mount tabs. I don't think I explained that too well, but hope ya get the picture.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169190 posted 01/05/05 01:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ya but not everyone probably has the stock ones to cut up. Can you get me a picture? It sounds like something I can make quick and easy but I want to make sure I'm thinking of it right.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169197 posted 01/05/05 01:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'll work on it, I'll try to take some measurements too or draw a picture or somethin.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169303 posted 01/05/05 05:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm interested -- I've got a set of Evo8 springs waiting patiently in the garage.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169304 posted 01/05/05 05:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This thread would be allot better with pictures guys. Just a thought.


Edited by Duc Hunter (01/05/05 05:55 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 169313 posted 01/05/05 06:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My previous thread has pictures, i believe its linked above.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 172550 posted 01/14/05 12:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Scott got all the evo8 bits so I'll finally get to take a crack at them this weekend. Hopefully good news to follow. I'm trying to make a bolt on solution for the entire setup but we'll see if I'm successful.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173109 posted 01/16/05 10:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Chris is going to make this a simple bolt-on affair folks!
Here's some teaser pics, to clear up the fog surrounding ride height with EVO bits. Stay tuned for a full post on the project.
Note: the car was sitting on a slightly inclined driveway.

The highly calibrated measuring tool:


Fender gap with stock setup:


Fender gap with stock EVO setup:


Camber with stock EVO setup:


Clearly the EVO front springs need to be cut - we're figuring out how much to cut off and then bolting it all up again. I want stock or just slightly lower than stock height when it's all done.

-We'll keep the list posted,
Scott Y, dreaming of EVO

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173118 posted 01/16/05 11:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks Scott The front is not quite a bolt on affair but I think it can be made that way with a little work. Once I get the first prototype bits made then we'll work on the rear. I hope that can be a bolt on solution as well but worse case it will be an "exchange" with a little welding involved.

BTW I need a good spring compressor. Can anyone recommend something? The cheapie one we were using bit the big one to say the least.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173130 posted 01/16/05 12:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You guys, cut the spring down to about a 9" free hieght + or - half an inch depending on how low you want it. That should be a good starting point.

Chris, I always just rent a compressor from shucks. Its like 8 bucks or somethin.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173139 posted 01/16/05 12:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

You guys, cut the spring down to about a 9" free hieght + or - half an inch depending on how low you want it. That should be a good starting point.

Chris, I always just rent a compressor from shucks. Its like 8 bucks or somethin.




Karter, Does 9" free height put it at stock height? We rented a compressor from Checker but it was a hunk of junk. I would like to buy a nice one so I have one anyway.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173151 posted 01/16/05 01:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No, not stock hieght at a 9" free length. It lowered the car from wehre you sit right now at least 2 inches I think. The fender gap was reduced to somewhere between 1-2" IIRC. I was retarded and didn't take any pics of it

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173161 posted 01/16/05 01:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Okay. We're going to inch it down then. More of a PITA but I want to get an idea of where different free lengths set the car.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173186 posted 01/16/05 03:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Pivvay when this is done I'll gladly pay you for a set along with the ICS elliminator plate, might as well get it all at once. I've had a full evo suspension setup with just 100 miles just sitting in my garage for about 5 months and I really need to do something with them. BTW for anyone who's thinking of cutting off the botom mount and welding on the correct one, I started this and it didn't work out too well. Ruined one of my struts so word to the wise.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 173189 posted 01/16/05 03:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
How did you weld? I've got some good advise for welding struts off some other people if it comes to that. However I hope it doesn't.

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