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Re: Ebay Adjustable rear control arms


Jonvr4
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 157145 posted 11/26/04 02:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
hey john any update on these?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 157190 posted 11/26/04 05:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I was about to order some new rear arms for the rally car, but this may be a better option....... Ill tell yeah if they break in the gravel


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 170848 posted 01/10/05 02:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

hey john any update on these?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 170906 posted 01/10/05 09:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
pix & update??

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 210163 posted 04/23/05 07:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I ordered all the parts from AFCO last night to build these since my rear upper control arms are trashed. Everything should be in next week. I will let you know how they turn out and post some pics.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 210178 posted 04/23/05 08:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
anyone wanna sell a set of already assembled ones?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 270960 posted 10/27/05 12:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
still nothing? c'mon, some one must have pics by now... my ingals are two days from trashed...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 277820 posted 11/19/05 06:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
BUMP!!!!!!!
PM'd some people about these, no reply.

I bought the required parts for this and the week after I get the parts from AFCO, my Ingals arms snap... oh joy

ok, actually one snapped and the other bent bad.

so i'm having problems with the install.
the rod end spacers seem to be too long (easy fix with a hack saw) but, the 3/4 id of the spacers is not big enough.
I might have bought the wrong pt#, I'm not sure though.

I was hoping to get some more incite on these AFCO arms ASAP, as my Daly driver is now down.
And to make things worse, my beater MR2 needs a starter and is non-op for now.
So Ive been using my Wifes car to make part runs BUT after Sunday I'm car-less unless I eather...

1) finish the AFCO arms
or
2) install a new starter in the Mr2 beater (not a fun job)

so I guess i'm asking for a little help on what to buy from AFCO to complete my install

I cant even get to the store for beer


Edited by SGTdave (11/19/05 06:23 PM)

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Lucian Bartik
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 277822 posted 11/19/05 06:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Short the clutch safety switch on the MR2 and push/roll start it for a couple days. I remember the good 'ol days when the Toyota hi-lux came with a clutch switch override.


Edited by Lucian Bartik (11/19/05 06:31 PM)

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SGTdave
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 277825 posted 11/19/05 06:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I actually considered it already ^_^ hee hee.
I think I'm going to have to get a new starter tomorrow morning.

good thing school doesn't start until January.

what a $hi7y week ive been having.
I think its time to walk to 7/11 and get a 6 pack


Edited by SGTdave (11/19/05 06:40 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 277832 posted 11/19/05 07:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh man, sorry to hear about that!

I wish I could help you on the Control Arm issue, but I haven't started that yet...I am in a similar situation though witrh my 3G MAS upgrade, so we have to keep this up there

Please keep us updated though, cause I was planning on going this route soon!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283087 posted 12/07/05 02:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow those are nice, I'll have to pick a set up for myself if they fit the Talon!



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SGTdave
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283664 posted 12/09/05 01:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
All you SOB's owe me a beer.




I just finished the install right at Midnight.
I don't have as much time to mess with the Galant as much now as I got a job (finally), working at a Saturn Dealership (and yes, i do more than just oil changes)

Any way, changing the camber is now hella cake.
all I do is...

1) jack up car slightly
2) reach under the car with my left hand and grab the lower jam nut, and loosen it.
3) reach through spokes in wheel and grab upper jam nut with my right hand, and loosen it. (works better with big boy 18' wheels like mine )
4) grab AFCO arm with left and turn right or left to adjust camber.
5) after selecting desired camber, reach back in and tighten jam nuts
6) drink a beer coz your done.

The whole thing cost me about $130.00 (the ingalls arms were $145.00 when I got um)

oh ya, one more thing... sorry Larry, changed my mind (yet again) on the GT35/40R and bought "these", which went in during the AFCO install.



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SGTdave
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283669 posted 12/09/05 02:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Before I start getting bombarded by PMs...

I will list what parts I used to complete the AFCO setup, next week.

Yes, the 1G Eclipse coil-overs fit.

Yes, the Eclipse camber plates fit... if you are smart and relocate one stud its easy. BUT if you are dumb like me, you can make a new strut mount with an Eclipse bolt pattern and install away, ya moron ... but, the added steel will reinforce the mount, so its not to bad of a dumb mistake i guess.

Factory hight Settings on Tien SS (untouched) is the same as the ride hight of the AGX and Ebach Sportline setup (expect its an even drop with the tiens) no 2/3G rear mounts necessary.

I might be going on a canyon run next weekend with a few friends ( I think the Initial D generation call it, "Touge", instead of "canyon run" ) ya I'm old.
so I'll give you guys my impressions of Tiens along with my other suspension mods.

On a weird note...
I've had my front strut bar off the car for about 1 week.
Wile its been setting in the drive way the strut towers moved almost 1/4th of an inch closer to each other confused: I found this out when I tried to re-mount the strutbar.


ugh... going to bed now

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283696 posted 12/09/05 06:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks so much Dave! I can't wait for the parts list. We have a HUGE circle track warehouse only minutes from here so I'm sure I can get all the stuff locally .

John



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283765 posted 12/09/05 10:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You're Ore-Ida!

Really though, Thanks alot for posting all of that! I think it should be clipped and put into the How-to section for the archives...If I'm ever in the San Diego area, I'll be sure to get you a beer, he he...

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Ermer
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283766 posted 12/09/05 10:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
YOU ROCK DAVE! I'll be seeing you soon...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283823 posted 12/09/05 01:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      

Looking forward to the parts list. Was there any need to redrill the taper on that ball joint, or was it the same as the stock one?



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Lucian Bartik
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283827 posted 12/09/05 01:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You mean re-ream that balljoint taper? I think they are all on an inch standard, even on metric cars. Two common tapers exist even on racing ball joints: 1.5" and 2" per foot. Hopefully it is one or the other.

tapered reamers


Edited by Lucian Bartik (12/09/05 01:22 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283864 posted 12/09/05 02:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, that's what I meant. I don't know what the taper is on our cars, but I didn't think it is common to SAE cars. Maybe it is.

I'll have to look into it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283865 posted 12/09/05 02:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You better post some pictures with your car on the New suspension, I know it looks PIMP!! Even the ladies might check you out if your lucky too bad it's still SLOW!!! J/k just giving you shit. Keep up the Great work.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 283945 posted 12/09/05 06:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I discovered another source for these kind of parts: www.colemanracing.com

Examples:
14" swedged steel tie rod sleeves in 7/8" O.D. & ends with 5/8" RH & LH threads) for $10.85 each
Or 1" O.D. & ends with 3/4" RH & LH threads) for $12.45 each

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 292747 posted 01/10/06 08:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Can you list the part numbers for us I'm dying here!!! Thanks!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 293722 posted 01/12/06 09:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
OK basicly...

Quote:

Afco racing website:
2x part # 19514 14" Swaged Steel Tube= 15.60 each
1x part # 30211 GN tie rod end= 15.50 each
1x part # 30212 GN tie rod end= 15.50 each
1x part # 10420 standard steel rod end= 11.85 each
1x part # 10421 standard steel rod end= 11.85 each
Total of $85.90 a pair.

you can substitute part # 10420/10421 with 10424/10425 for $36.70 each.





Thats about 80% complete right there. (dont forget, you will need two right turn jam nuts and to left turn jam nuts)
now, the hard part was getting the needed components to attach it to the car.

If there was such a thing as a Metric Hiem End "Hiem Extension", then this install would be cake... However, there is not.
My solution was to change the fasteners over to "standard".

What I used was a 1/2 inch bolt that was the same measurement as the OEM piece, and went from there.


as you can see from the picture, per arm I used,

one 1/2 inch bolt w/ nut
two split lock washers
three half inch washers that match the diameter of the OEM rear camber adjustment washer *3rd washer is used as spacer* - (see pic and explanation below)
two 1/2 inch Hiem ends
two DIY mounting tabs from performance metal supply. (not nessary)



By using washers that are the same diameter as the stock ones, we can "lock" the new bolt into position.
Using the new washers also deletes the factory adjustably placing the bolt on center BUT, with the AFCO arms you gain much more adjustably than stock.

It is a must that you use washers that have a 1/2 inch hole that is exactly the diameter of your new bolt.

In my case, I couldn't locate a set of washers that had the perfect ID, close but not perfict.
So I had to use two tabs per arm that I got from a performance metal supply, to totally lock in the bolt.

It worked out perfectly.

These arms are very tough. they for sure can stand up to allot of abuse, not like the Ingalls POS arms.

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SGTdave
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 293727 posted 01/12/06 09:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
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too bad it's still SLOW!!! J/k just giving you shit.




It depends on you definition of slow.
I can keep up with my friends EVO through the mountans... except in the straights... and uphill.

I honestly think I could of passed him on a few parts but we had to keep it safe so, no passing.

I really think having a slower car is helping my driving skills.
When I used to do this stuff in the Starion the fun was in the straights due to its power, corners were a bit of a chore (hopefully its new set up will own the Galant)

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