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Re: BC Coilovers


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 993924 posted 05/18/11 07:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
interested in this.....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 993964 posted 05/18/11 09:19 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
send it to me i'll edit and upload



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994176 posted 05/19/11 05:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994184 posted 05/19/11 06:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hm... am I seeing this correctly that these are only rebound adjustable? BC says on their website that it's rebound and damping together...

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Edited by belize1334 (05/19/11 06:53 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994203 posted 05/19/11 08:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Omg I want those!!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994331 posted 05/20/11 11:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Alright, so... These look like crap to me. Though it's a bit hard to tell since half of a PVP plot isn't really telling me much. I'm no shock expert, far from it, but even I can see these are pretty cheap in the valving.

The adjustability is only in the positive range? So its only compression adjustable with a bit of cross talk in the rebound. Either the chart is wrong or that alone makes this thing worthless. Next, its almost purely a linear shock. That will lead to rough rides and is similar to almost everything else coming out of Japan. So either its going to be under damped at low speed or kidney jarring at high speed (were talking jounce here, not vehicle speed ). Anyone else ridden on K-sports then jumped into an evo on Ohlins or similar with same wheel rates. The evo feels like a caddy in comparison. The "knee" on this is far to low and according to this graph only shows up at the end of the compression adjustment range.

Total rebound force is looking pretty soft, yet the max compression is huge. It's quite un-balanced IMO. I would want about double the rebound and half the compression (or just leave it on the low setting).

Not to be completely negative but I really cant see anything "quality" in those plots.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994334 posted 05/20/11 11:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Alright, so... These look like crap to me. Though it's a bit hard to tell since half of a PVP plot isn't really telling me much. I'm no shock expert, far from it, but even I can see these are pretty cheap in the valving.

The adjustability is only in the positive range? So its only compression adjustable with a bit of cross talk in the rebound. Either the chart is wrong or that alone makes this thing worthless. Next, its almost purely a linear shock. That will lead to rough rides and is similar to almost everything else coming out of Japan. So either its going to be under damped at low speed or kidney jarring at high speed (were talking jounce here, not vehicle speed ). Anyone else ridden on K-sports then jumped into an evo on Ohlins or similar with same wheel rates. The evo feels like a caddy in comparison. The "knee" on this is far to low and according to this graph only shows up at the end of the compression adjustment range.

Total rebound force is looking pretty soft, yet the max compression is huge. It's quite un-balanced IMO. I would want about double the rebound and half the compression (or just leave it on the low setting).

Not to be completely negative but I really cant see anything "quality" in those plots.





Thank you Dallas . Looks like its back to the AMR coilovers



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994336 posted 05/20/11 11:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
amr?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 994341 posted 05/20/11 11:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Just called Ohlins just to get a price on a set of Evo 9 coilovers they retail for $3200....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 995824 posted 05/26/11 11:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here are some links on some decent reviews on BC as a company and the coilovers. Learned that yes they are made in Taiwan..but actually have no affiliation with D2sport, Megan, Ksports....and actually have more connection with the BIG name JDM companies like Greddy/Trust, etc. They have been making coilovers for 13 years now.

Hope this helps for those on the fence on these coilovers. I know of 2 people that use BC suspension on their cars HARDCORE, Road course and Drifting and have no issues with BC coilovers at all.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 995827 posted 05/26/11 11:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm confused I thought all the guys getting these said they were very happy with them?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 995856 posted 05/27/11 02:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm very happy with mine so far. I don't know enough about shock dynos to refute the above statements. Unfortunately, the graph shows design characteristics but not quality markers (such as repeatability and hysteresis). My experience has been that on full soft they're VERY tolerant of rough roads. And believe me when I say rough... we see sub 20* temps 8 months out of the year here so our roads are AWFUL. With the shock settings turned up a bit it becomes a whole new beast... very aggressive.

So far the only issue I've had is that the back springs tend to make a "boing" sound going over big bumps some times. I suspect that his is some combination of insufficient preload and the lack of a thrust bearing in back so that as the spring compresses and twists it has a tendancy to catch and then release and resonate with that sound. I'm going to corner weight the car soon and I'll double check the preload at that point. If the issue persists I'll throw a couple of torrington thrust bearings on the back springs and see if that fixes the problem. And when I say problem I mean "very minor annoyance".



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 995939 posted 05/27/11 03:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The thing with suspension is it's all subjective to each individual's preference. There are so many different setups out there to choose from & obviously as you go higher up in price the quality gets better. You can't expect to compare these to Ohlins & call it a fair comparison. Compare it to others within the similar price point & ask yourself, self why do I need coil overs? Is it for looks, is it for street, is it for strip, is it for both street & strip, is it for the best setup available or is it to give me a little of everything in a package I can afford?

To be realistic, these will satisfy the needs of 95% of us. The next 5% will opt for Hotbits/Tein/Ohlins...... Decide what you want to do with the car, then pick a setup that will be geared towards that goal. Also these are the base setup from BC & they only offer one more stage up from here for us. The top of the line ER series which is what's on the winning One Lap of America Evo X piloted by Chris Wirth & Sean Caron has performed flawlessly for the past 2 years of absolute track abuse combined with daily duties & thousands of miles. Unfortunately these are not available for us & if they were they would retail for over $2k.

There's always going to be a better setup, question is, do you need it?


Edited by Garfield Wright (05/28/11 01:26 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 996030 posted 05/28/11 03:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well said Garfield



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 996038 posted 05/28/11 07:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have had BC's on the galant for several months now and I am happy with them. The ride is firm but not harsh, it handles brick streets and rough roads very well. No unusual suspension noises or creaks so far. It may actually be the best mod I did to the car.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 996040 posted 05/28/11 07:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I like the sound of that. I can't wait to get mine



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 996118 posted 05/28/11 11:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Garfield Wright:


To be realistic, these will satisfy the needs of 95% of us. The next 5% will opt for Hotbits/Tein/Ohlins......




Very true, not everyone is willing to spend the money on high end stuff or custom setups for maximum on track performance especially since very few actually track their GVR-4. If someones happy with their stuff for the street then great! But on track those are definitely not up to the task of being truly competitive.. Then again, $3k is about the entry into higher quality and these are about 1/3rd of that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 997418 posted 06/05/11 02:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting dmj:

Installed coilovers and new wheels and tires today car now rides firm, not harsh at all . I will beat on it tomorrow and see how it performs








Hey DMJ, what size are your wheels and is that the 2" inch drop that comes with the coilovers or did you lower it more?
Also, do these come with rear camber plates?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 997816 posted 06/07/11 01:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Seems like from the reviews, BC's are the way to go. I opted for D2's becuase of pricing. They are STIFF. My friends know better than bring lidless drinks or pick their nose in my car while I'm cruising Does anyone with coilovers scrape their undercarage over some uneven roads on highway?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 997821 posted 06/07/11 01:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wheels are 17 x 7.5 35 mm offset. 67.1 centerbore with 235/40/ 17 tires. The drop is the standard with the coilovers except for the right rear which I had to lower about 1/4 in to even out the ride height. No adjustable camber plates for the rears.


Edited by dmj (06/07/11 01:56 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 997827 posted 06/07/11 02:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^There wouldn't be, the rear strut has no bearing on camber aside from ride height.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 998126 posted 06/08/11 05:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ok thank you, it looks great btw.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 998251 posted 06/09/11 02:35 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Nartanian:

Seems like from the reviews, BC's are the way to go. I opted for D2's becuase of pricing. They are STIFF. My friends know better than bring lidless drinks or pick their nose in my car while I'm cruising Does anyone with coilovers scrape their undercarage over some uneven roads on highway?




Yeah, with the D2's, I've hit the exhaust and the engine sub frame a few times

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 998850 posted 06/11/11 04:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Anybody else buy these?

Can you report any new findings?

Thanks.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1015136 posted 09/01/11 03:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Bump the old thread. Just curious if there are any updates.

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