5OF2k
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Good morning!
First off:
stock 2.0 bottom end
272 cams
evo pink 560s
SD setup
AEM EMS
Magnus SMIM
OBX ramhorn
Full-Race T67(12psi)
7ES(and 6ES) plugs gapped to .23(NEW)
NEW Denso Wires
known good 2g Coilpacks
ICM less than a year old
CPS less than a year old(replaced same time)
My car was out of comission for about 5 days when my clutch master went bad. When I replaced it, the car acted a bit funny on startup and idle until it warmed up, then was good. I took it out, drove it around, and beat on it a little bit without issue. I then drive to my parents house and hang out for a while, come back out to go home and the issue starts:
RANDOMLY will lose cylinders. When I say lose, I mean not firing. I'll have to floor it to keep it running, and it sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders, barely. Literally driving along, smoothe as glass road and BLAM, falls on its face and I have to turn off. It did it that ONE night when I replaced the clutch master, and then stopped so I didnt think anything of it.
Fast forward to Monday morning. I wake up to go to work and the car doesnt want to start;the starter sh*t on me. So, I call into work, and call a buddy to take me to get a new starter and stuff like that. I replace the starter, and if fires right up, like a champ. I let it run for a while, make sure everything is good, and leave to take the starter back to the parts store for my core charge. I never make it(in my own car, that is). Car does the cylinder loss/die thing on me easily 6-7 times in the course of my 2.5 mile drive from my GF's house(where I was replaceing the starter) to my house(as far as I could make it on 2cyls).
So, I get to my house and pull the plugs, and they are BLAAAAAAACK fouled, and I also notice I have a leaky injector(#1). I mean BAD, and wet, fuely all 4plugs. Now, I find it a bit odd, because just that previous sunday I was at the shop and pulled them out, re-gapped them, and threw them back in. Just that day before they were perfect. Good burn, good timing, no signs of detonation, nothing. Perfect.
So, I call up my pops who luckily wasnt working Monday, and had him take me to drop off the core and get some new plugs(I bought 2 sets, just in case). Head to my house and throw in the new plugs, replace the injector o-ring that was ripped and fire it up. At first its not wanting to idle, running on 2cyls, and smoking like it was before. So, I give it gas to try and clear it out. It eventually clears up, so I let it idle for a while. it dies.
I crank it over and fire it up again and it's fine, good to go like nothing is wrong, so I head off to my parents house. On the way there, Im driving normal and decide to beat on it a little bit, and it goes fine, runs good until I'm decelling for a traffic light. I go to get back on the gas and nothing, dead. So, I pull to the side of the road and try starting it again, and it wont do anything unless I keep it floored, and at that point it sounds like ONE cylinder and it's barely spinning at 500/1000 RPM. Eventually clears up, so I take of again and guess what, it does it again, 3-4 times. This time, I just keep it floored because Im pissed, and it keeps cutting back and forth from all 4 cylinders to 2(or however many).
finally make it to my parents and check things out, looks like the fuel leak I had was drippin down onto the coils/that area, so I start calling around for another set of coils. Find a set of 2g coils so I went and picked them up.
I go to install the coils, and notice the wiring for my stock coild is a bit shotty. The coil side connector has the insulation for the wiring coming off in a few spots. I figured the problem was that, so I decide to replace it with the 2g wiring that came with the coils(verified the pins and wiring was the same physically, NOT in color). Slap the coils on my bracket, re-mount the bracket, and plug everything back in. Fire it up and it's running a bit off, but clears up almost immediately. So, I let it run for about 15 minutes at idle, and its fine. THe whole time Im under the hood wiggling connectors and harness and everything trying to get it to act up again, and NOTHING. So, I take it out and drive it a bit. Put about 10 miles on it, no problems. Some driving nicely, some "spirited".
So, I figure SWEET! I got it!
Wrong.
I go to leave my GFs house this morning, and it fires right up, idles great, and is warming up while I scrape my windows. I hop in, and it's just about warm, and I take off driving to my house to change before work. I get stopped at a light, and BOOM. Dies. So, I go to re-start it, and it re-starts, but on 2CYLINDERS, smoking, and everything as above. CLears up, boom dies again, and so-on and so-on and so-on. It does it about 6-7 times at that ONE light, and I take off driving towards my house. Make it about 2 miles before Im stopped at another light and boom, dies again. another 3-4 times of it cutting in and out, dying, smoking, clearing up, and so on before the light turns green and I take off. It's running on 2cyls the whole time at this point, all the way through my comples and to my garage about 1/2 mile from the last stoplight.
So, I pull in the garage, pop the hood open quick and pull a plug.
FOULED.
Just as black and wet as the plugs I had pulled out Monday afternoon, and these are NEW plugs I JUST got.
Now, Im a very capable mechanic and have done it for a living for almost 15 years now, but cant get it to act up or duplicate, nor am I able to diag anything when it's acting up(because I have to stay in the car giving it gas for it to stay running). Im at a loss, it's like a catch 22!
I did notice when it;s running on 2cyls, it's making boost....which is weird. Especially with the T67. I mena, on my 16g I could see that because just revving the car makes boost, but it doesnt on the T67 typically, especially not the 10psi it's making when it's misfiring/dropping cylinders.
I dont know what that has to do with anything, but yea, it's interesting and worth a mention I suppose.
Anyway, thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any suggestions. I really need to get this figured out and sorted; it's my ONLY vehicle and already costing me money by me not being able to drive the ~20 miles I have to, to and from work.
HEEEELLLLLP!!!!
-Jake
First off:
stock 2.0 bottom end
272 cams
evo pink 560s
SD setup
AEM EMS
Magnus SMIM
OBX ramhorn
Full-Race T67(12psi)
7ES(and 6ES) plugs gapped to .23(NEW)
NEW Denso Wires
known good 2g Coilpacks
ICM less than a year old
CPS less than a year old(replaced same time)
My car was out of comission for about 5 days when my clutch master went bad. When I replaced it, the car acted a bit funny on startup and idle until it warmed up, then was good. I took it out, drove it around, and beat on it a little bit without issue. I then drive to my parents house and hang out for a while, come back out to go home and the issue starts:
RANDOMLY will lose cylinders. When I say lose, I mean not firing. I'll have to floor it to keep it running, and it sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders, barely. Literally driving along, smoothe as glass road and BLAM, falls on its face and I have to turn off. It did it that ONE night when I replaced the clutch master, and then stopped so I didnt think anything of it.
Fast forward to Monday morning. I wake up to go to work and the car doesnt want to start;the starter sh*t on me. So, I call into work, and call a buddy to take me to get a new starter and stuff like that. I replace the starter, and if fires right up, like a champ. I let it run for a while, make sure everything is good, and leave to take the starter back to the parts store for my core charge. I never make it(in my own car, that is). Car does the cylinder loss/die thing on me easily 6-7 times in the course of my 2.5 mile drive from my GF's house(where I was replaceing the starter) to my house(as far as I could make it on 2cyls).
So, I get to my house and pull the plugs, and they are BLAAAAAAACK fouled, and I also notice I have a leaky injector(#1). I mean BAD, and wet, fuely all 4plugs. Now, I find it a bit odd, because just that previous sunday I was at the shop and pulled them out, re-gapped them, and threw them back in. Just that day before they were perfect. Good burn, good timing, no signs of detonation, nothing. Perfect.
So, I call up my pops who luckily wasnt working Monday, and had him take me to drop off the core and get some new plugs(I bought 2 sets, just in case). Head to my house and throw in the new plugs, replace the injector o-ring that was ripped and fire it up. At first its not wanting to idle, running on 2cyls, and smoking like it was before. So, I give it gas to try and clear it out. It eventually clears up, so I let it idle for a while. it dies.
I crank it over and fire it up again and it's fine, good to go like nothing is wrong, so I head off to my parents house. On the way there, Im driving normal and decide to beat on it a little bit, and it goes fine, runs good until I'm decelling for a traffic light. I go to get back on the gas and nothing, dead. So, I pull to the side of the road and try starting it again, and it wont do anything unless I keep it floored, and at that point it sounds like ONE cylinder and it's barely spinning at 500/1000 RPM. Eventually clears up, so I take of again and guess what, it does it again, 3-4 times. This time, I just keep it floored because Im pissed, and it keeps cutting back and forth from all 4 cylinders to 2(or however many).
finally make it to my parents and check things out, looks like the fuel leak I had was drippin down onto the coils/that area, so I start calling around for another set of coils. Find a set of 2g coils so I went and picked them up.
I go to install the coils, and notice the wiring for my stock coild is a bit shotty. The coil side connector has the insulation for the wiring coming off in a few spots. I figured the problem was that, so I decide to replace it with the 2g wiring that came with the coils(verified the pins and wiring was the same physically, NOT in color). Slap the coils on my bracket, re-mount the bracket, and plug everything back in. Fire it up and it's running a bit off, but clears up almost immediately. So, I let it run for about 15 minutes at idle, and its fine. THe whole time Im under the hood wiggling connectors and harness and everything trying to get it to act up again, and NOTHING. So, I take it out and drive it a bit. Put about 10 miles on it, no problems. Some driving nicely, some "spirited".
So, I figure SWEET! I got it!
Wrong.
I go to leave my GFs house this morning, and it fires right up, idles great, and is warming up while I scrape my windows. I hop in, and it's just about warm, and I take off driving to my house to change before work. I get stopped at a light, and BOOM. Dies. So, I go to re-start it, and it re-starts, but on 2CYLINDERS, smoking, and everything as above. CLears up, boom dies again, and so-on and so-on and so-on. It does it about 6-7 times at that ONE light, and I take off driving towards my house. Make it about 2 miles before Im stopped at another light and boom, dies again. another 3-4 times of it cutting in and out, dying, smoking, clearing up, and so on before the light turns green and I take off. It's running on 2cyls the whole time at this point, all the way through my comples and to my garage about 1/2 mile from the last stoplight.
So, I pull in the garage, pop the hood open quick and pull a plug.
FOULED.
Just as black and wet as the plugs I had pulled out Monday afternoon, and these are NEW plugs I JUST got.
Now, Im a very capable mechanic and have done it for a living for almost 15 years now, but cant get it to act up or duplicate, nor am I able to diag anything when it's acting up(because I have to stay in the car giving it gas for it to stay running). Im at a loss, it's like a catch 22!
I did notice when it;s running on 2cyls, it's making boost....which is weird. Especially with the T67. I mena, on my 16g I could see that because just revving the car makes boost, but it doesnt on the T67 typically, especially not the 10psi it's making when it's misfiring/dropping cylinders.
I dont know what that has to do with anything, but yea, it's interesting and worth a mention I suppose.
Anyway, thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any suggestions. I really need to get this figured out and sorted; it's my ONLY vehicle and already costing me money by me not being able to drive the ~20 miles I have to, to and from work.
HEEEELLLLLP!!!!
-Jake
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