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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948591 posted 11/12/10 11:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
OK ALTERNATORS OUT but i dont have the rigt replacement the one i got off my friend has a 4 prong plug and the one for my car has a 2 prong plug

my question is what alternators (other than the gvr4) should i look for at the junkyard
that will work as a replacement

PLEASE ANY INFO HELPS



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948599 posted 11/13/10 12:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hyundai's, ANY DSM. You don't just have to LOOK for GVR4 specific replacement parts unless they're absolutly neccesary.

It took 2~3 weeks to get a alternator out?



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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948604 posted 11/13/10 01:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
dsm as in any mitsubishi 91 and down and any chrysler 91 and down ...turbo or N/A does it matter?

im preety much just gonna bring the old one in and look round

and no that is how busy and STUPID i am TO TAKE IT THREE weeks but i just started tonight i was still driving before today AND the job is half done



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Edited by yeti (11/13/10 01:05 AM)

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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948658 posted 11/13/10 12:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
does the alternator have to be from a turbo model?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948662 posted 11/13/10 01:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes.

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Diego
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948672 posted 11/13/10 01:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^ my alt came from a 2.0 hyundai..... non turbo.

It holds peak fine.



91 and down???? You DON'T have to have a 91 or earlier SPECIFIC alternator.... 95 and up is a concern as I'm almost positive they are the 4 plug terminals.....

So let's get a list here:
89~94.5
Eagle Talon
Mitsu Eclipse
Plymouth Laser


Ill find more and update this for you.. MAN I HOPE you get this figured out.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948674 posted 11/13/10 01:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
click



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it's peace of mind at 100 mph plus
1990/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948681 posted 11/13/10 01:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Diego,

I think you've dead on about the years, but I think there's a little more to the interchange.

Like you said, the 89 - 94 dsms will all bolt right up, and will plug right in.


However, I believe there's different ratings for the various models, and to the best of my knowledge;



1g dsm's equipped with manual transmissions came stock with 65 amp units.

1g dsm's equipped with automatic transmissions came stock with 75 amp units.




I'm not completely sure about the factory Galant fitment, but all the ones I've ever grabbed off an 89 - 93 Galant at a yard have been the 90 amp units. I like to grab the ones off non turbo cars, as they haven't been baked/abused by the heat of the turbo and exhaust.

That said, the actual rated output isn;t near as important as the unit's actual condition.

If you have deleted the a/c, a 75 amp alternator will do just fine.

I'd rather have a low mile healthy 75 amp unit than a hi mile 90 amp unit that has been "cooled" with power steering fluid for the last hundred thousand miles.





edit

Nice looking out on the link!


Edited by toybreaker (11/13/10 01:53 PM)

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Diego
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948682 posted 11/13/10 01:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^ Great point. A/C isn't deleted just taken off on my car therefore like you stated a 75A wlll do just fine.

Wasn't aware of the Galants containing a 90A output, would be an awesome "overclock" feature for the people w/o PS,AC and such.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948683 posted 11/13/10 02:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You've got three basic alternators out there. 65 amp, 75 amp, and 95 amp. The 95 amp was factory on the GVR4, this is also the least common and most expensive. The 75 amp was factory on 1G's with automatic transmissions, regardless if it was turbo or not. The 65 amp was factory on 1G's with manual transmissions, regardless if it was turbo or not. the 65 and 75 amp alternators are very common and less expensive. Unless you have some massive power draw such as a huge sound system, you'll be just fine running a 75 amp version. I've been doing it for 4 years on the same alternator. Hyundai elantra's and sonota's are good candidates for alternators as well. You'll know if you find one in the junkyard because it will look like a non turbo 4g63 in a Hyundai.

EDIT. After reading toybreakers post, I do remember that the galants are 90 amp, not 95.


Edited by galant1517 (11/13/10 02:05 PM)

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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948690 posted 11/13/10 02:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
thank you all for the info on the way to all Japanese to get one out of a 89-94 automatic eclipse



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1990/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948693 posted 11/13/10 02:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Cool deal!




Put on a sad face, and be sure to emphasize you really wanted a 90 amp unit off a GalantVr4.





He might just knock a couple of bucks off ...





"*sniff*, *sniff* is that the only one you have, *sniff* *sniff*"




(...bonus points if you can get a little tear rolling done one cheek ...)




Most guys that work in the yards have a really good sense of humour, and will remember well played antics, especially if you waaaay overplay things.

They will also remember you, and be more willing to be helpfull in the future.


"oh,man here comes that poor guy that got stuck with one of the slower colors, be sure to hook him up"



the bitterness of low quality remains long after the temporary joy of a low price has faded


Edited by toybreaker (11/13/10 02:26 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948774 posted 11/13/10 08:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got an NSA alternator after constantly getting broken ones from Ebay and the junk yard. It wsa such a pain to swap the alternator (especially with an external wastegate)...draining the radiator multiple times etc. It cost me more money and time buying used than buying the NSA. The neat thing about the NSA is that it shows you the test results for the alternator (mine was tested at 98 amps) and has a 2 year (I think warranty). That beat the heck out of the lifetime warranties I got locally at autozone for remans etc. I'd put the autozone alternator on and it would break in 5 minutes. Then I would have to wait another day for them to ship a new one to the store because they wouldn't stock the 90 amp. I am very happy with the NSA so far, although I have only had it for about 8 months.

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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948819 posted 11/14/10 01:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
SO.....

went to all japenese i got the right alternator looks just like the one i pulled out..................

but its dead

so i will be going back tomarrow




this guy from romania or someplace like that was just trying to convince me to clean it and it would work fine



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Edited by yeti (11/14/10 01:14 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948850 posted 11/14/10 10:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yep...going back getting used parts isn't always cost effective based upon the time taken up and your gas money. To each their own. I hope your luck gets better. Mine didn't!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948864 posted 11/14/10 11:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Maybe I missed something but why aren't you just buying a new one, or a Vatozone rebuild with lifetime warranty? Some people have bad luck with the Vatozone units and it's takes a few tries before they get one that lasts. But you're getting good at the swap anyways. I guess I was lucky my first Autozone unit worked fine and never died on me.



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948889 posted 11/14/10 12:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't have enough money for a new one. And I get it checked at kragen right after

But they are closed Sunday so that's not happening today

Hopefully 1292/2000 will be on the road tommarow



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 948895 posted 11/14/10 12:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know what you mean. I have been down that road and I figured that was what was happening. There are no Kragens out here, but I don't trust those machines or the people behind them. Seems like they have an incentive to lie and say that your part is bad or may not be competent enough to tell you that it is good etc. That is what seems to happen out here. Good luck, I am in your shoes and have been in your shoes. Let us know how you make out.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949166 posted 11/15/10 12:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Some things you just don't buy used. Like brakes............and alternator's. I wouldn't throw money away on used one's for sure. Good luck

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949347 posted 11/15/10 04:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I agree, a new one or remanufactured one is your bes bet. it's a Pita to have to constantly keep changing it



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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949507 posted 11/15/10 11:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got a working alternator but don't know how long it will last
Its from an 89galant (I think) and I think that's the 60amp so I don't know how well it will do

Should be in by fri,



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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949699 posted 11/16/10 03:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is the 65 amp alternator gonna hold cause I think that's the one I got



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949700 posted 11/16/10 03:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do you have/run your AC? Big stereo? Etc?



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949719 posted 11/16/10 04:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
the AC does not work and i have no rear speakers and a stock stereo
and no other electronics other then the neccesary

i do have LED lights though



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yeti
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 949828 posted 11/16/10 10:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
no gauges are hooked up
i do have a narrowband afr gauge,,,oil temp,,and boost gauge,,

ALSO found a greddy ext. temp still all hooked up under the steering wheel but no gauges



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