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First winter in Florida, 20w50 to thick for winter?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023075 posted 10/04/11 02:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
After reading the article from forced performance I want to run Valvoline vr1 but I'm unsure if 20w50 is gonna be to thick for Florida winter. What do you guys think? Let me know.


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Edited by cupajoe (10/04/11 02:36 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023109 posted 10/04/11 04:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Winter exists in Florida?!?!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023145 posted 10/04/11 06:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
For Redline 20W50 it say: Not recommended for use in cold climates (15C/5F for 20W50)Popular in turbocharged applications, For wider bearing clearances and racing engines that see occasional street use

For Redline 10W40 it say: Best choice for high-performance engines that see street/strip or track activity
Great for engines with high oil temperatures

is it ever below 5F in Florida?



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Edited by EgonOlsen (10/04/11 07:00 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023181 posted 10/04/11 08:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you've been to Florida people there consider 50* degrees cold while I'm walking in shorts and a hoodie and flip flops.... same when I visited California, same scenario. I grew up in the Midwest, the southern coastal states don't get a "winter" IMO.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023203 posted 10/04/11 09:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
When I talked to family down there a year or so ago, they told me it got below freezing and fucked up the orange crop or something of that nature. I doubt it's like that much, but they do get some cold spells.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023216 posted 10/04/11 10:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh yeah I know what you mean when you say Florida doesn't get "winters" I lived in Alaska my whole life so I know all about the cold Lol. I know on the the oil temp chart its reads 20w50 is good to about 0*f, but just wanted to see if any else ran that weight oil in ~20*F? Do you think it would be okay? or should I just stick with a 10w30 for the "colder" months?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023596 posted 10/06/11 09:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Anyone else that lives in Florida please chime in and let me know what weight oil you run during the colder months.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023598 posted 10/06/11 09:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
not in florida but i'm running a 50/50 mix of mobil 1 0w40 and 5w50 weights here in cleveland this winter. i'm hoping it goes well. so far so good temps have been into the 40s already with no issues.



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well first off, WHERE in florida are u going to be...below the frost line, u dont have to worry about "winter" cuz it doesnt get THAT cold....above the frost line...it can drop to 30's or so at night, but its up at 70-80 during the day, so it all depends on where in florida u are going to be



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I run 20w-50 always ,everythng else seems to thin out extremely quickly due to high temps

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Quoting QnzMostWanted:

well first off, WHERE in florida are u going to be...below the frost line, u dont have to worry about "winter" cuz it doesnt get THAT cold....above the frost line...it can drop to 30's or so at night, but its up at 70-80 during the day, so it all depends on where in florida u are going to be




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Quoting dmj:

I run 20w-50 always ,everythng else seems to thin out extremely quickly due to high temps




And you don't have problems during Dec-Feb?



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i think u will be ok, just let the car warm up completely on those cold mornings and u will be fine....my dad just told me he ran 20w50 all year long in NY and never had an issue as long as he let the car warm up before he started to drive...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023860 posted 10/07/11 01:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
With the car warmed up, no big deal. Starting a car with that weight oil in it in freezing temps might get interesting though. If it gets cold, drain the molasses and pour in some lighter weight stuff.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023867 posted 10/07/11 01:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'll probably get slated for saying this but since we are already at October, I'd be inclined as an experiment to get some cheaper oil in larger quantities and treat this as an experimental, run-in/flushing period for the next six months. Decide what it is more critical to find out, if thinner oil thins too much in hot temps or if thicker oil creates starting/oil pump issues in colder temps.

Change the oil at closer intervals over the next few months and inspect it when you change it. If you splash out and buy some filters and change them with each oil change at the very least you will be cleaning out your engine with a monthly oil change.

I'm in a similar situation in Hong Kong and I found that I can run thicker oil all year round. It gets down to zero here or below with the wind chill factor but only overnight (like 4am). By midday and even earlier it's always above freezing and I never had cold start issues. Even if I considered using a thinner oil it is only ever remotely viable for about 1-2 months a year. I'm sure that's the same for Florida.

I'd just buy some cheaper light weight stuff and throw it in for the sake of changing the oil when it gets cold and go back to my preferred brand when the temps pick up. Like I said I doubt you are looking at more than an 8 week window but I suppose you should wait for the Florida peeps to chime in on that, I can only talk with any authority on the temps here as I have only been to Florida in the summer.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023872 posted 10/07/11 01:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wind chill won't matter on cars, only humans. If it stays above freezing, use the thick shit.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1023877 posted 10/07/11 02:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^^ LMFAO that wasn't quite what I meant but yeah I've never needed to change oil during the winter.



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Thanks for the opinions, very helpful. If anyone else in Florida runs this thicker oil or has any input on this matter feel free to chime in, I'm interested. While were on this subject do you think 20w50 would cause the oil pump to work to hard? Or will it be just fine?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1024146 posted 10/07/11 11:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I run 15w50 in 1051 in WA state. I don't drive it in the winter, but that's all I have ran in the thing for years.



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I am running 20w50 and in denver. Sometimes on real cold mornings my car will die right after start up and then start right back up. Like someone stated before, just let the car warm up to normal operating temp (10 or so min.) before driving and you will be good.



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I used to run 15 40 in my turbo audi during the winter monthes here and I felt as it could have gone thinner for sure I would say rotella 5w40 would be ideal here as it has the cold start properties you need and it is thick enough when hot to use all year so as close as you can get to the best of both worlds.



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Wow AK to Florida. Welcome. What part of fl? You will not feel cold for at least 3 years. I run 10w30 all year



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1024540 posted 10/09/11 06:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm in fort Walton beach now, yeah the climate change is a little different lol. Cant wait for it to cool down.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1024561 posted 10/09/11 08:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm just outside of Orlando FL, and my Talon has seen nothing but Valvoline VR-1 20w-50 for the past 11 years. We MIGHT see a week worth of temps down to the 30's.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1024665 posted 10/10/11 11:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
^ Exactly what I'm looking for. Not sure how much the weather differs from here and there, but should'nt be to much different. 20w50 vr-1 it is.

Thanks again for the input, Joe



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