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How strong is a stock GVR4 Transmission?


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009897 posted 08/07/11 04:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My question is how much power can a Stock tranny hold SAFE with out having to worry about breaking somthing and tranny being in good condition

How much hp can the tranny take

Occasional Launching /DD?

DD/Raceing from a roll and not launching it?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009903 posted 08/07/11 04:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The tranny can hold a bit of power as long as the necessary components are strengthened like the Pressure Plate, Flywheel, Clutch... you'll know its too much power when you start breaking ears off the tranny and disintegrates the trans into your firewall...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009930 posted 08/07/11 05:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's when u break into the 400+hp mark that it starts to show weakness



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009952 posted 08/07/11 07:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So lets say for a setup like mine I'm shooting for 300-350hp how would the tranny hold up with occasional launching ??



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009956 posted 08/07/11 07:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It all depends man, launching is exactly what quickly lowers the life of the transmission. they say instead of just dumping the clutch from a dead stop that it's easier on your drivetrain if you preload it first.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009962 posted 08/07/11 07:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
+1 ^

Unless your putting down serious power, It just comes down to how you personally drive.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009970 posted 08/07/11 08:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Save up for a Shep stage 4 and be done with it



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009995 posted 08/07/11 09:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
1st gear and the center diff are the weak points. I have broken more trans than I can count back in the day making 305hp at the wheels. Evo 3 first and a 4 spider should have you set for a while. Dbl syncro 2nd is nice too.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1009998 posted 08/07/11 09:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The stock syncros are weak as hell too, and also 4th gear is very fragile in those transmissions



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010003 posted 08/07/11 10:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
4th isn't fragile, it's the 1st gear in our transmissions. While it is taller than a DSM 1st, it's also very weak and doesn't take kindly to launches.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010005 posted 08/07/11 10:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I've seen enough horror stories of 4th shattering due to crazy power.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010009 posted 08/07/11 10:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Forget all this manual trans crap and just get a stock DSM auto with a simple shift kit and a stall which has held mid 10's more times than I can count but yea other than auto being the only way to go as stated above the 1st is way weak as well as the center diff.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010011 posted 08/07/11 10:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The stock trannys seem to do alright when there aren't hard launches and when your not shifting at 8500rpms

My car makes 600whp and the stock tranny is taking a beating for some reason. Sometimes it doesn't like to go into 3rd when I'm shifting at 8500rpms. As long as I don't make it go into a gear that it doesn't want to go in, it seems to do just fine. I never launch the car so that probably helps with its strength a lil bit. Its just a highway fun car

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010013 posted 08/07/11 10:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So launching a stock tranny at those power levels is not safe.

Would it hold up fine lets say racing from a roll instead of launching it



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010021 posted 08/07/11 11:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've seen 300hp cars break the tranny. So no, launching it with 600hp is not the best idea. They seem to do fine when your doing rolls as long as the tranny is in good condition. I've seen stock trannys that weren't in good condition destroy 3rd on a roll because when you make a lot of power and do that type of stuff, it puts a lot of load on it.

A well taken care of tranny, a good clutch, and good tranny fluid will help a lot aswell.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010022 posted 08/07/11 11:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting GSX_TC:

Well I've seen enough horror stories of 4th shattering due to crazy power.




^this. Just ask Ricky Nicholes (dacowgod) over on tuners. He goes through minimum of 3 shep trans a year because he grenades 4th gear. This time around he had shep build a custom dog 4th gear for him.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010026 posted 08/07/11 11:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yep



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010059 posted 08/08/11 12:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 3rdstrikedsm:

Forget all this manual trans crap and just get a stock DSM auto with a simple shift kit and a stall which has held mid 10's more times than I can count but yea other than auto being the only way to go as stated above the 1st is way weak as well as the center diff.




So the automatic transmissions are stronger than the manual transmission?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010063 posted 08/08/11 01:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
They are not subjected to the shock loads. The converter loads up the gear sets and the wear is on the clutch packs.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010077 posted 08/08/11 02:16 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If u get a built auto trans from IPT you'll be all set. Consistency FTW



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010078 posted 08/08/11 02:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here's a link with info on that

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010095 posted 08/08/11 07:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting GSX_TC:

If u get a built auto trans from IPT you'll be all set. Consistency FTW



just don't expect it to hold up if you plan on running 8s.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010232 posted 08/08/11 06:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I wouldn't bother with IPT. The guy that English is using has the autos down very well without making the dumb mistakes IPT tends to make from time to time.

You need to realize the reality of the auto and how much work it can be to do the swap correct and keep it clean.

With less than 400 whp, a taken care of tranny will do fine, just don't insist on killing the gears if it doesn't want to shift. I ran 55 gallons of ethanol through a stock tranny this year at around 550whp. I made several tuning pulls trying to get everything dialed in, including the ecu controlled boost and it held up fine. This same tranny has been in there since ive been daily driving it at 440whp for over a year.

I did however shred 3rd gear when I insisted on ripping on the car every opportunity I had when I was daily driving it at 530whp.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010247 posted 08/08/11 07:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^ Thus my comment about IPT, after all the issues Jeff went through with them before going through Metro Trans.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1010256 posted 08/08/11 08:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Yes, Mark at Metro is a very intelligent guy. He was recommended by a friend years ago before I was ever in the import scene and was looking to have a tranny redone.

Also, if you have access to the ECMLink message boards, the drivetrain section is flooded with threads from guys having nothing but issues with their autos. The autos do hold up, but it can be a nightmare getting them set up correctly.

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