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Re: HID Retrofit - DONE RIGHT


jmorri15
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061330 posted 04/08/12 10:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
if you have it id love to see the backs of the housing. would it be possible to just cut the whole back of the projector housing and simply epoxy or fiberglass it onto our headlights, that would eliminate the gap



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061344 posted 04/08/12 11:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i will take them out tomorrow and take some pictures of the assembly.
the gap is just the mounting bracket being positioned in the wrong position.
hopefully it is gone when i reassemble after the pictures.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061345 posted 04/08/12 11:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
thanks. it looks amazing, props on the job



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061346 posted 04/08/12 11:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^That looks MEAN! Way to go, but I think the corner lights need something. I don't know what, but something.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061347 posted 04/08/12 11:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting strymeckirules:

i will take them out tomorrow and take some pictures of the assembly.
the gap is just the mounting bracket being positioned in the wrong position.
hopefully it is gone when i reassemble after the pictures.




sorry dude but i have to ask. either its the pic or your camber is way fubar'ed



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061350 posted 04/09/12 12:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i think i'm gonna try a set of blacked out corners...
the oem look don't look right anymore. if i could somehow keep the light but black out the housing...
if i would have left the housings chromed,it would still flow, but black out needs more black.

and yeah that pic does make my camber look off.
drives straight...even boosts straight... will check tomorrow. maybe evo 8 camber plates moved.
just finishing a abs delete. man that's a 30+ pound weight and a big gaping hole in the engine bay! bleeding tomorrow.

my galant is slowly surpassing my talon in sexy points.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061468 posted 04/09/12 09:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061470 posted 04/09/12 09:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



so i fixed the gap between the lights and hood. it's better, still can be adjusted more when i have more time.
the abs delete was fun, one brake line wouldn't seal, had to keep cutting and flaring. but now i have full SS brakelines and abs delete, and 1gb big front brake kit. the pedal is much firmer.
and my camber was off, put in a few camber bolts and boy does it feel better and turns more aggresively. i will have to get it dialed in professionally soon. for now it's an improvement.

i blacked out one side light, but i think i have to do the old take it apart and paint the back of it and keep the cover clear. know what i mean?

i like the projector look on the car. more heads are turning watching me drive by now. they still don't know what it is though.

as you can see the housings got pretty hacked up to make this work. not for the faint of heart.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061473 posted 04/09/12 09:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
thats awesome. im going to start looking around for donar parts at the local junkyards.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061483 posted 04/09/12 10:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Seems like a lot of hacking and BS just to make it fit less than well. Why didn't you just re-route the IC pipe, seems like a lot easier and cleaner way to make it work.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061485 posted 04/09/12 10:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
after doing many junkyard projector pulls, here is my advice.
the best bang for buck bolt on easy to use projector is off of a tiberon -metal housing 2.5".
acura integras have a nice 3" but the aluminum housing is oddly shaped and needs to be hacked to make it easy to mount. i used this one on my snowmobile and it looks great.
kia's have projectors but they are not sealed, they are open to air and sometimes have plastic housings. so you loose light from the housings not holding and projecting the light. it's a kia anyway.
the ones i put in the talon housings are off a subaru svx? metal housings and it's about a 3".

you want the metal, sealed, cutoffed projector housings. sometimes inside they will have more cutoff than you want, for example the j30 projectors have a cut off on the top and bottom. the top one is an inch wide and easliy breakoff able. the bottom cutoff must be maintained to not blind oncoming vehicles.
some times there won't be a cutoff, and these are not suitable projectors for a night driving light, unless it is high beams only.

i have purchased 2 projectors for $17 at the local junkyard.
i purchased the full j30 headlights x 2 for about $40.
the more you take apart of the housing at the junkyard the cheaper they get.
only import cars have them it seems. or the newer domestics have them too.

it's pretty easy to get the cut off line level. if you are doing the project, remove the bulb section of the housing so you can see the cutoff line. make this paralel to the bottom of the headlight housing. then fasten the projector to the headight housing using whatever.

the project would be easyer if i put the projectors centered with the old bulbs. but i put them close together and it caused some issues.
the center 2 center of the oem bulbs is like 6" and the centers for the j30 projectors was 4.5"

and the 3" didn't like to fit. 2.5" would have been easyer.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061604 posted 04/10/12 04:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
first set (belonging to OP) looks great

second set... not so much



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061733 posted 04/11/12 01:04 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Found this in the post whoring section. I think it looks pretty good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061842 posted 04/11/12 06:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      


got my 6000k hid's in the mail. have to do some slight aiming to get it perfect, but i like them very much. the cutoff pic was taken at 7 am with the sun rising. i will have to take a night driving pic tonight.
this project was well worth it. night driving visibility is awesome.
i want to change out the high beam/driving projector to one that has a cutoff, so i can run all four lights at the same time. i'm gonna get 8000k for the highbeam/driving so it will be a little more blue than the low beam 6000k. i think that will look very sharp.
and i will also get some angel eyes and wire them off a switch so that i have full control of them.
that last post with the link to the angel eyed galant - who did that? do they have projectors? very curious....

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1061909 posted 04/12/12 09:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm still waiting to get mine wired up and take output pics. I would have liked to do a quad retrofit, but I didn't want to "hack up" the headlight mounting brackets in order to fit the projectors. I'm hoping the cutoff is a little more "crisp" then the one in your picture though. Quad would make it a bitch to align the cutoff though. Kudos to you for attempting the project on your own though. Certainly a more economical approach for better light output.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1062269 posted 04/14/12 09:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting strymeckirules:



got my 6000k hid's in the mail. have to do some slight aiming to get it perfect, but i like them very much. the cutoff pic was taken at 7 am with the sun rising. i will have to take a night driving pic tonight.
this project was well worth it. night driving visibility is awesome.
i want to change out the high beam/driving projector to one that has a cutoff, so i can run all four lights at the same time. i'm gonna get 8000k for the highbeam/driving so it will be a little more blue than the low beam 6000k. i think that will look very sharp.
and i will also get some angel eyes and wire them off a switch so that i have full control of them.
that last post with the link to the angel eyed galant - who did that? do they have projectors? very curious....




you were on the right track with this project until you went on about the 5000k and 6000k and angel eyes.

angel eyes are just bad taste, so whatever, that's your call.

but anything over 5000K is retarded. This is why:
lighting over 5000k is beyond the spectrum of the sun, which is the best light for the human eye to distinguish colors and objects, anything beyond that has a negative impact on the color rendering of the human eye and is outputting wasted lumens (light that the human eye cant see/use) as it's out of the spectrum of the human eye. 4300-5000 kelvin has the highest color rendering index. You would want around 4500 kelvin if you were concerned about actually being able to see. People often misunderstand this thinking that the higher they go in the kelvin chart, the brighter the light will be, which is dead wrong.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063470 posted 04/20/12 08:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i like 6000k lighting because of the WHITE color it puts out.
5000k is too yellow, like the sun.
6000k is an electric light color, like welding light. i like it.
it has nothing to do with brightness of the light for me, it's the end result color i want.
that's why they offer higher spectrum COLORS. for an appearance, not brightness.
that's why i also mentioned the blue 8000k. for the blue color, not any sort of brightness factor.
i'll admit it's all vanity, but what isn't on our cars nowadays.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063478 posted 04/20/12 09:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
@ wanting headlights to be a certain "color", rather than putting out better light, yanno, so you can see where you're going.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063481 posted 04/20/12 09:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i dont know why everyone is bashing his choice of color temp for the lights. His projector setup is better then 99% of anything on the site, so even if he doesnt have the ideal color temp his lights are still better then most.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063483 posted 04/20/12 09:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Putting HID's/projectors in a car is for better lighting. Why ruin that by using higher color temps? Because it looks too much like the sun's light output? WTF?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063485 posted 04/20/12 09:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
because his headlights could be 8k's and still better then most everyone else. the projectors look great and even with the 6k's should perform significantly better then any stock headlights. so hes not even loosing performance compared to stock and he get to personalize his car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063492 posted 04/20/12 09:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting jmorri15:

because his headlights could be 8k's and still better then most everyone else.




I disagree.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063493 posted 04/20/12 09:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
maybe 8k is a little high. but 6k's in those projectors will still smoke stock headlights



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1063497 posted 04/20/12 10:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
HID BULBS vs HALOGEN BULBS
However, all HID light is much brighter than Halogen, even if it is a 35W 8000K HID bulb, the light output still maintains well over 2700lm; which is still brighter than 55W Halogen with 700lm.



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