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Building a forward facing Turbo Manifold


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797480 posted 05/31/09 04:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
VIDEO OF THE FIRST START UP.

Galant+VR4+Forward+facing+manifold


After seeing the STM manifold I have not been able to get my mind off of how cool that would look on the Galant. So finally my brother and I, got started.


Here is the Mock up.








Materials.

Custom One Off Head Flange - Brother CNC Machined it






304 SS Weld El's Sch 40.
click - acestainless.com


Edited by TheBoz (07/19/09 12:32 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797481 posted 05/31/09 05:04 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here is a ghetto moch up of the pipes. We are just trying to plan everything out before we start tacking stuff together. So dont poke to much fun at the awesome blue tape .


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797485 posted 05/31/09 07:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've always wanted to do this on a Dodge Colt project car. My ideal setup would be a twin scroll manifold facing forward and a ball bearing turbo with a water to air intercooler setup.

Looks good. Keep us updated.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797486 posted 05/31/09 07:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh, I forgot to mention, that flange is a REALLY nice piece!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797487 posted 05/31/09 07:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow, that flange is incredible!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797490 posted 05/31/09 09:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Prison Rape Industries?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797494 posted 05/31/09 10:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Flange is sweet.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797495 posted 05/31/09 10:47 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
And since I'm contributing to the design process I'll get you my address for a PRI flange.

Toybreaker sent me these a while back the car ran at the Pinks event last year in Colorado.





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797512 posted 05/31/09 12:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Finally, a real reason to use a Honda radiator. That looks killer. Prison Rape?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797515 posted 05/31/09 12:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very cool I loved the STM setup. should be really nice when finshed



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797516 posted 05/31/09 12:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting curtis:

And since I'm contributing to the design process I'll get you my address for a PRI flange.

Toybreaker sent me these a while back the car ran at the Pinks event last year in Colorado.





I love how well that engine bay looks but the exterior paint is all messed up. people won't even give a second look at the "run down" car until you open the hood and will be like HOLY SHi.......

and to OP, those are some really nice constructions. hope it doesn't suck in too many bugs



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797526 posted 05/31/09 12:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting CarRacer:

Prison Rape Industries?




Yep it is an inside joke. My brother and I always try to mess around when building parts, and we figured it would be awesome for people to look at the manifold and be all "Prison Rape???" LOL.

This is our first run at building a manifold, so who know how it will turn out. I figure the material are pretty cheap, so for me it is a why not.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797527 posted 05/31/09 12:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting DarkDevilMMM:

hope it doesn't suck in too many bugs




We are going to cut out a K&N pannel filter to stuff in the grill, and just find some jimmy fuck way of attaching it to the turbo. So right away I am going to just use a sock as my filter .

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naca ducts on ebay with a aluminum lip on top for a K&N recessed in the grill.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 797987 posted 06/01/09 11:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do you plan on back purging? What size turbo are you planning on running?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798022 posted 06/02/09 02:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting TylerAdamson:


Do you plan on back purging? What size turbo are you planning on running?




I have no clue what that is. I have a Welder that I use. I can tack stuff together but that is about it. So I pay money to have it done the right way.

As for the turbo it is a 37r.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798055 posted 06/02/09 07:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Acestainless FTW!

"Backpurging" is the act of filling the pipe with Argon gas, in order to completely "Purge" any oxygen remaining in the "Back" of the pipe.

This way, when you do your final welds, the puddle will be contaminant free, and ultimately increase the strength of the weld overall.

Ebay manifolds are thin-walled, and do not get backpurged, hence why they fall apart all the time.

Killer project!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798069 posted 06/02/09 08:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting TheBoz:

Quoting TylerAdamson:


Do you plan on back purging? What size turbo are you planning on running?




I have no clue what that is. I have a Welder that I use. I can tack stuff together but that is about it. So I pay money to have it done the right way.

As for the turbo it is a 37r.




I was under the impression you and your brother would be welding it as well.

Looks like an interesting idea, I've always been a fan of the forward facing manifolds that I have seen. Please keep the thread updated with progress, I would like to see how it turns out.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798073 posted 06/02/09 09:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That is a baller flange! How much would he make one of those for?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798094 posted 06/02/09 10:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I hate to jack, but you can get a cnc flange in steel or stainless from www.bmcrace.com

Them plus www.acestainless.com make great resources for building your own manifold.

However the "Prison Rape" brand flange *is baller!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798104 posted 06/02/09 10:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Did you consider running it as a top mount? Given your mockup & turbo positioning, it seems like it would be easier to get longer runners (and equal length) if you were to drop the tubes down and then come back up to the turbine housing. Just a thought.

The flange looks pretty slick and I had to at the name.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798179 posted 06/02/09 03:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting jepherz:

That is a baller flange! How much would he make one of those for?




Thanks. As far as making them, this part would cost alot because it was a complete billet piece. AMS sells a cast part that would do the job just fine.

click

The reason we did not go that route is because my brother loves to CNC stuff, and he wanted to try some new stuff out on the mill, so we were like hell ya lets do it.

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Quoting slugsgomoo:

Did you consider running it as a top mount? Given your mockup & turbo positioning, it seems like it would be easier to get longer runners (and equal length) if you were to drop the tubes down and then come back up to the turbine housing. Just a thought.

The flange looks pretty slick and I had to at the name.




Ya, we are looking at all kinds of options for mounting this thing. That is why right now it is just Zip Ties and Blue Tape FTW!. The hard part with the Galant is there is not very much vertical clearance and not much space between the radiator support and the head. Plus I still need to have a wastegate and a full 3in exhaust up in there. So space is very tight and it just makes things a little interesting .

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 798552 posted 06/03/09 04:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That things looks great! Good job getting on the ball and going for it.

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I think you'll need more than a 3" dump with that thing.

The bigger the better!!



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