GalantVR4.org The Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Forum
Galant VR-4 Forums » Galant VR-4 » Technical Discussions » My Engine Wiring Harness Reworked
Previous thread Next thread

My Engine Wiring Harness Reworked


strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 529985 posted 09/04/07 07:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have been working on fixing and freshening up all of the wiring on my car. I started with the the chasis harness and removed, pin by pin, every wire that went to things that I will not be using on the car. I started in the trunk and worked my way forward. I removed the big harness plug that went to the ABS computer, the ABS sensor that is mount behind the spare tire and all of the wiring that goes with it. The ABS sensors mounted on all 4 spindles went too along with their wiring and even the wires to the old auto antenna. As I unwrapped the harnesses and pulled the wires through, I cleaned the the remaining wires and rewrapped everything. When all the unnecessary wires were exposed all the way up to the fuse box, I depinned each one to make it a very clean removal.
I dont have any pics of how the chassis harness looks now, because for the most part it remained in the car throughout the process. But I do have pics of the 6.5 lbs of wire that has been removed so far!
Next was the engine harness. It really needed some attention, especially in the problem area around the thremostat housing. So instead of just patching it up with some butt conectors and electrical tape, I opted to completely go through the entire harness and redo it. I was a huge pain in the ass, but I think in the end, it will be worth it. Instead of using the convoluted tubing type loom to cover my now non-crispy harness, I decided to use flame retardant expandable braided sleeving. I also ran each sensor's wires seperately from about the middle of the harness near where the firewall's stock grounding location was. This made it not as bulky and easier to route each wire in a way that will be more pleasing to the eye once it is back it the bay; I always hated the way the factory harness looked like it was just thrown across the bay and twisted in knots on top of the transmission near the battery. Anyway, here are the first pics. It is not entirely finshed, but it is close; I still have to repair 2 wires that I am waiting on parts for, and then melt the 2-layer heatshrink around the end of the wires near the grounds wires for the firewall. I will have a lot more to add to this in the next few weeks and will add pics and explain what I did. Let me know what you think so far.
-Ryan

This is what I started with:



These are some of the first wires removed:


This is what I have done so far:





Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.58.53) | Report this post to a Moderator

dewey
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 529991 posted 09/04/07 07:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
looks sweet. A little bit too much work for weight reduction.

| | | IP: (70.168.185.55) | Report this post to a Moderator

digit
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 529995 posted 09/04/07 07:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks good where did you get the wire cover stuff from?

| | | IP: (74.185.151.198) | Report this post to a Moderator

Qship
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 529998 posted 09/04/07 07:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice work! That sheathing looks like stuff you can get at just about any computer parts stores for those with clear side panels that want to clean up their wiring.

Edit: Whatever sheathing you go with, check to make sure it can withstand underhood temps.


Edited by Qship (09/04/07 07:37 PM)

| | | IP: (67.189.16.38) | Report this post to a Moderator

strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 530001 posted 09/04/07 07:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

looks sweet. A little bit too much work for weight reduction.




Weight reduction is just a side effect of what I am doing. I am fixing what was broken and making things simpler while I'm at it.

Digit, I got everything from HERE .



1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.58.53) | Report this post to a Moderator

slugsgomoo
god hates stupid people
461/1000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 530018 posted 09/04/07 08:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I really like what you've done here. I've been thinking about re-doing my harness since so much stuff has been cut & spliced, but i'm still hesitant about taking the plunge.



-andrew
{witty signature}
#461 Kensington Grey - 2.0L/T67/etc
2015 Triumph Tiger 800 XCx
2014 Ford Focus ST

Posts: 3683 | From: Tacoma, WA | Member Since: 10/16/03 | IP: (67.76.148.180) | Report this post to a Moderator

strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 530026 posted 09/04/07 08:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have had my car down for this since mid-July . It is A LOT more work than I thought it would be and I have ran into more than one problem that slowed progress down quite a bit.



1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.58.53) | Report this post to a Moderator

Shiskibob
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602391 posted 02/08/08 12:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
update please. :-D

| | | IP: (71.112.200.34) | Report this post to a Moderator

boostedinaz
Fatty McButterpants
1101/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602432 posted 02/08/08 01:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I am doing the same thing with my Talon while it is down. I really like that sleeving.

Did you get any new plugs at all? I have been wondering where people get new plugs from and it seems to be a secret.



Michael
The rebuild of 1101

Posts: 4085 | From: Scottsdale, AZ | Member Since: 04/20/06 | IP: (167.80.246.204) | Report this post to a Moderator

strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602443 posted 02/08/08 01:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I plan on posting a full write up on everything I have done to the car...one day. While I haven't forgot about posting updates, the whole project is just on the back burner right now. But to hold you off until I have some more time, here are a few dirty progress teaser pics of the harness installed, the 3g ac controls installed, and some other changes .





And yes, the car does currently run and drive.

Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.63.35) | Report this post to a Moderator

Dialcaliper
Flagration Member
1269/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602457 posted 02/08/08 02:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Did you use all new connectors or just new wires? If you used new connectors or pin terminals, where did you get them from?



1269/2000 Summit White

Posts: 1284 | From: Mountain View, CA | Member Since: 06/22/07 | IP: (158.184.37.55) | Report this post to a Moderator

strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602471 posted 02/08/08 02:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
None of the connectors were new, the way to get them is to have a connection and to buy in bulk (just ask Iceman ). I just used the best ones that I could find from all of the boneyard cars that I plundered over the years.



1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.63.35) | Report this post to a Moderator

boostedinaz
Fatty McButterpants
1101/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602476 posted 02/08/08 02:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What is consider bulk, 50, 1000, 100000?



Michael
The rebuild of 1101

Posts: 4085 | From: Scottsdale, AZ | Member Since: 04/20/06 | IP: (167.80.246.204) | Report this post to a Moderator

iceman69510 Galant VR4.org Moderator
Turn Right Racing
855/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602518 posted 02/08/08 03:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't remember the exact numbers, but it varied by connector type. And I only found one company that I dealt with that so it was just the connectors for making the maf adapter harnesses that I bought.

Problem is, the minimum applied to each connector. So, if you want a 2 pin connector, it's 2000 of those. You want a 4 pin, it's 2000 of those, and so on. You want terminals, it's 10,000 of those. Male and female each.



91 VR4 855 Nile Black
92 VR4 828 Belize Green-SOLD
91 VR4 115 Nile Black -SOLD

Posts: 10724 | From: Michigan | Member Since: 03/05/01 | IP: (12.1.210.225) | Report this post to a Moderator

boostedinaz
Fatty McButterpants
1101/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602521 posted 02/08/08 03:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Balls.



Michael
The rebuild of 1101

Posts: 4085 | From: Scottsdale, AZ | Member Since: 04/20/06 | IP: (167.80.246.204) | Report this post to a Moderator

boostedinaz
Fatty McButterpants
1101/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602544 posted 02/08/08 04:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What size sleeving did you use?

I am thinking I will need at least two sizes, one for the extensions like you pictured, and one size for the bulk of the harness. Any thoughts?



Michael
The rebuild of 1101


Edited by boostedinaz (02/08/08 04:27 PM)

Posts: 4085 | From: Scottsdale, AZ | Member Since: 04/20/06 | IP: (167.80.246.204) | Report this post to a Moderator

Nijasan
polevault tard
1373/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602548 posted 02/08/08 04:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That is going to look fantastic. Please tell me you kept track of what part numbers you ordered, and what parts did or didn't work.

Posts: 724 | From: Yuba City, CA | Member Since: 09/03/04 | IP: (65.49.19.60) | Report this post to a Moderator

Dialcaliper
Flagration Member
1269/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602568 posted 02/08/08 05:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What kind of price per connector (total) are we talking about? If it's not too expensive, would it be something that could be made into a group buy, or possibly convince someone like Jesse (Rev Motorsports) or JNZ to buy if we could provide enough confirmed orders? It would be really awesome if a complete engine harness connector/terminal kit was available to buy - just add wire and sleeving.

How many different terminal types are used in the engine harness? Perhaps just replacing those and using the original connectors might work too.


Quote:

I don't remember the exact numbers, but it varied by connector type. And I only found one company that I dealt with that so it was just the connectors for making the maf adapter harnesses that I bought.

Problem is, the minimum applied to each connector. So, if you want a 2 pin connector, it's 2000 of those. You want a 4 pin, it's 2000 of those, and so on. You want terminals, it's 10,000 of those. Male and female each.





1269/2000 Summit White

Posts: 1284 | From: Mountain View, CA | Member Since: 06/22/07 | IP: (158.184.37.55) | Report this post to a Moderator

95awdtsitalon
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602601 posted 02/08/08 06:55 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

would it be something that could be made into a group buy, or possibly convince someone like Jesse (Rev Motorsports) or JNZ to buy if we could provide enough confirmed orders?




Count me in..

| | | IP: (72.43.97.120) | Report this post to a Moderator

Polish
Dr. Pilosh Haagenscodyberger


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602621 posted 02/08/08 08:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wow, that is GREAT work. Excellent job!



My car site
Old GVR4 #1186/2000

Posts: 8936 | From: NE, IN | Member Since: 01/10/05 | IP: (4.160.39.237) | Report this post to a Moderator

FaTsLuG
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602744 posted 02/09/08 12:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
good job.

| | | IP: (65.33.102.38) | Report this post to a Moderator

strokin4dr
fighting them with a large needle
1280/2000
1135/2000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602923 posted 02/09/08 09:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

That is going to look fantastic. Please tell me you kept track of what part numbers you ordered, and what parts did or didn't work.




I got all of the supplies for the harness at cableorgnizer.com. I dont remember the amount of each size that I ordered, but it was some of all of the sizes that you can buy by the foot. I was going into this project blindly, but I had everything planned out before I actually ordered anything or started modifying the harness. First I removed the harness from the car, then unwrapped all of the factory tape and covers and cleaned all of the sticky gunk of the wires. From there I could see which wires I didn't need and how all the other wires were ran. After that, I decided how I wanted to run the wires in the new loom and measured the length of all the wires and kept a running total of how much sleeving it would take and what size sleeving I thought would work. Like I said in my first post, this was A LOT of work and took much longer that I thought it would. I'm sure I still have my notes around here somewhere if you guys want me to try to find them and see what measurements I had to give you a rough estimate of how much to order if you want to attept this. The hardest part of the whole project was having to remove all of the connectors without damaging them(major PITA!) and keeping track of which wires go where. I had to draw a lot of diagrams .

Quote:

Wow, that is GREAT work. Excellent job!



Quote:

good job.




Thanks for the kind words guys. I will try to update the progress as soon as I can.
-Ryan



1908- sold and missed.
1280- 2.3, FP 35R, E85, etc.
1135- 100% stock
'93 Mirage hatch- 4g63, AWD, etc (hoarding for build)

Posts: 2766 | From: Savannah, GA | Member Since: 08/30/05 | IP: (71.229.63.35) | Report this post to a Moderator

curtis Galant VR4.org Moderator
Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic
475/1000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602980 posted 02/10/08 12:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



You my friend have the patient's of Job.....



92 GVR4 0475/1000
Greenhouse Effect Green
Exceeds Mechanical Limits
"Put the dawg to work.
Ass, Gas or Milkbones. Nobody rides for free" Jon AKA Toybreaker

Posts: 11892 | From: Clarksville TN | Member Since: 05/04/03 | IP: (71.87.180.25) | Report this post to a Moderator

Rausch Galant VR4.org Moderator
Rock Star Status


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 602982 posted 02/10/08 12:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've been meaning to do this with the extra harness I have. Anyone got a line on quality wire at a reasonable price? Teflon jacketed perhaps?


Very nice indeed. I searched the site you linked, and found some nice coverings/loom for the engine bay. They have some good heat/corrosion/fire resistant materials!



Rance lives here...
Founder of Sold out to BMW Cru, then sold out there too.


Posts: 12049 | From: Cleveland, OH | Member Since: 12/21/04 | IP: (68.109.207.53) | Report this post to a Moderator

crankwalk
Unregistered


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 603028 posted 02/10/08 08:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Quote:




You my friend have the patient's of Job.....




Didn't realize he was a doctor.

Yeah I could never undertake something like that. I hate wiring stuff. Good job with it.

| | | IP: (24.99.218.210) | Report this post to a Moderator


Pages: 1 | 2
Previous thread Next thread

Extra information
0 registered and 4 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Galant VR4.org Moderator:  curtis, steve, atc250r, jcgalntvr4-244, cheekychimp, jepherz, Rausch, toybreaker, iceman69510, pot, FlyingEagle 

Print Thread

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 8348

Rate this thread


News & Events: News | Events
Galant VR-4: Newbies | General VR4 Discussions | Technical Discussions | How To and Info Archive
Marketplace: Parts For Sale | Cars For Sale | Good Guys | Bad Guys
Community: Members' Showcase

Contact Us | Privacy statement GalantVR-4.org

Generated in 0.137 seconds in which 0.073 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Turbo powered.


Hertz's Galant VR-4 Page