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4130 Chromoly rear camber arm


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350072 posted 06/15/06 05:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Latest cool thing I build.

4130 chromoly rear camber arm. Teflon lined rod end bearing. Regreaseable (zerk fitting) balljoint end. No mickey mouse material. No mickey mouse heim ends, washers, 1/2" bolt etc to deal with. I machine a special metal bushings so the tie rod end just bolt onto the subframe with your original 14mm eccentric bolt. You use the camber arm to set your "rough" camber at home and then go get a real alignment and still be able to use the factory eccentric camber bolt to fine tune your camber number at the alignment shop.




Edited by number3 (06/18/06 11:40 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350075 posted 06/15/06 05:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks hot. Depending on the price, I would be interested. One thing to think of is that some people would not want to use their stock bolt because of the shape it's in.

Keep in mind that the recipe for these is out there, be it with different parts. So pricing will determine if these will sell or not. Look really good though.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350078 posted 06/15/06 05:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Damn. That is hawt. If I had money I would buy all of the cool stuff you make. Dare I ask what your prices are? Looks good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350084 posted 06/15/06 05:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Forget about the shitty meterial that the recipe gives! These are the real deal. If you want to be cheap and build your own set, be prepared to build at least two sets, as they do break. The chromoly tubing used on Andre's will not break. Time to man up, and do it right the first time!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350086 posted 06/15/06 05:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The recipe for the one out there is with the use the wrong size bolt. 1/2" bolt and washers is mickey mouse. Why would you want to downsize from the factory 14mm camber bolt to a 1/2" hardware? This one install with the original camber bolt for dual camber adjustment capability via the arm (rough) and the camber bolt (fine) itself. Or you can weld the camber washer for the camber bolt permanently to the subframe and have that bolt be permanently situated and do all your camber adjustment via the arm. Up to you.

The AFCO swaged tube used on the one out there is only made from regular mild steel. These are chromoly. Maybe you didnt understand what chromoly is. Like I said, serious product for serious racer. No mickey mouse parts. I hate mickey mouse parts.

As usual, everytime I make something that is nice and high quality and not bargain basement cheap, I will have some hater, but its ok. I expect that and will be able to deal with the hater better this time around. However, this is serious parts for serious guys only, if the chromoly arm ever bent, it will be the last of your problem. You'd lose your whole rear end to the wall or something crazy like that before this one will give you a problem.

Andre - thinking happy thoughts.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350088 posted 06/15/06 05:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Relax andre, I'll hype your product more after you send me a FREE SPONSORED set!!!FTW!!!!!111oNe1111

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350093 posted 06/15/06 05:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have only one comment. As I do alignments for a living, the eccentric bolt should be thrown out. It does not give you fine adjustment but rather crude adjustment compared to the metric threads on the arms. It is way easier to adjust it that way than fight with the factory eccentric bolts.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350097 posted 06/15/06 06:01 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
On our application here, we actually weld the receiving washer to the subframe so to make the bolt located permanently. All of the adjustment are made in the arm like you said.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350101 posted 06/15/06 06:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah you did a good thing. The eccentric bolts are a pain in the ass to get an accurate adjustment out of them sometimes. The damn thing change all the time when you tighten the other side of the bolt to lock it in place.

Nice piece none the less. I've made my own arms with a combination of suspension parts from other cars. Nice having access to a lot of old inner and outer tie rods, control arms and shit.



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Edited by marvinmadman (06/15/06 06:07 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350117 posted 06/15/06 07:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Forget about the shitty meterial that the recipe gives! These are the real deal. If you want to be cheap and build your own set, be prepared to build at least two sets, as they do break. The chromoly tubing used on Andre's will not break. Time to man up, and do it right the first time!



Agreed.

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Yeah you did a good thing. The eccentric bolts are a pain in the ass to get an accurate adjustment out of them sometimes. The damn thing change all the time when you tighten the other side of the bolt to lock it in place




I agree, after doing a subframe swap and tryign to get the other adjustable ecsentric bolts tightened I thought how much of a stupid pita they were.

Nice arms Andre, do repeat customers get a discount?


Edited by Mike (06/15/06 07:06 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350122 posted 06/15/06 07:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
do you notice any improvement in handling?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350137 posted 06/15/06 08:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
How many you want to buy Mike?

Quote:

Quote:

Forget about the shitty meterial that the recipe gives! These are the real deal. If you want to be cheap and build your own set, be prepared to build at least two sets, as they do break. The chromoly tubing used on Andre's will not break. Time to man up, and do it right the first time!



Agreed.

Quote:

Yeah you did a good thing. The eccentric bolts are a pain in the ass to get an accurate adjustment out of them sometimes. The damn thing change all the time when you tighten the other side of the bolt to lock it in place




I agree, after doing a subframe swap and tryign to get the other adjustable ecsentric bolts tightened I thought how much of a stupid pita they were.

Nice arms Andre, do repeat customers get a discount?





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350139 posted 06/15/06 08:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I dont understand the question?


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do you notice any improvement in handling?





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350153 posted 06/15/06 09:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
can you please post aprice ASAP. i am in the process of buying the afco parts. also what is the delivery time on this if i order one?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350154 posted 06/15/06 09:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do they only fit 4 bolts or is it the same for a 3 bolt?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350172 posted 06/15/06 09:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It bolts to the subframe, it doesn't care which rear end you have.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350180 posted 06/15/06 09:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thought so just making sure. My Suspension upgrades come later this year, will these be availible at all times or is it a one time deal?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350189 posted 06/15/06 10:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm in the middle of completely rebuilding the rear subframe/rear brakes/rear end of the car. I'll take a set



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350191 posted 06/15/06 10:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Is your active toe removed or welded or anything like that andre?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350213 posted 06/15/06 11:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wonder what they would look like if mickey mouse actually made them...




Those look pretty sweet andre, are you sure they're the REAL deal? I mean the really really real deal, not just like.. the sorta real deal...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350218 posted 06/16/06 12:04 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Edited by number3 (06/18/06 11:44 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350219 posted 06/16/06 12:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The subframe that the arm is modeled on is a rear subframe out of a GVR4 RS. RS doesnt have 4WS.

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Is your active toe removed or welded or anything like that andre?





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350225 posted 06/16/06 01:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
the active toe is going to be welded on this subframe, poly bushings installed, and an upgrade sway bar.....along with andre's camber arms it should be indestructible.

we'll post some pics when its done
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Is your active toe removed or welded or anything like that andre?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 350244 posted 06/16/06 06:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yup those swagged tubes are not all that strong... especialy at the threads where there is little material/wall thickness.... My new set upper/lower is made from 4130 also... My UB maching tubes made it through the first rally with out any bends BUT I didnt hit ANY banks.... I will convert to my newest arms in the next few days..... As for alingments.... I did mine on a VERY nice alingment rack and LOVED how easy it was to set rear camber and im my case rear TRACK width .... That being said I ditched the factory toe bolt and that was kinda a bitch....

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Edited by Larry Parker (06/16/06 06:38 AM)

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The subframe that the arm is modeled on is a rear subframe out of a GVR4 RS. RS doesnt have 4WS.




Sweet Jesus thats awesome.



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