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Best place to put oil pressure sender?(Installing gauge)


elfking
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195428 posted 03/19/05 06:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Exactly as the subject says:
I want to have an oil pressure gauge, so I am wondering where you guys out there have your's tied in? I am not entirely sure if there are better, or worse places to hook into. So I wanted to see what you thought? Pretty simple question this time.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195432 posted 03/19/05 06:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
take out the stock one and put it in there

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195471 posted 03/19/05 08:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

take out the stock one and put it in there



+1

Just keep in mind, then, that the stock warning light will no longer function, but you'll have the gauge.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195497 posted 03/19/05 09:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
also keep in mind that the stock threads will be different than the aftermarket sender. I would say get some adapters and a T fitting and some SS hose and run the aftermarket sender isolated a bit. (not much room down there for one)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195498 posted 03/19/05 09:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

also keep in mind that the stock threads will be different than the aftermarket sender. I would say get some adapters and a T fitting and some SS hose and run the aftermarket sender isolated a bit. (not much room down there for one)



Yeah, people basically make a distribution block out of home depot plumbing parts. This way you keep your stock sender and can have an aftermarket one tied in too.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195535 posted 03/20/05 01:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks for all the replies, I had normally done the home depot setup on my other cars(as in T-fitting the two into the one location). I just was not sure if these blocks had an extra plug maybe somewhere for that sort of thing. I know some cars you can find extra spots on the block that they just plugged up for one option or another. So I wanted to make sure I was just going to do the normal routine rather then having some simple like removing a plug and putting it there.

I just need to take the time and find the stock setup tomorrow.

Thanks again for the replies...


Edited by elfking (03/20/05 01:42 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195560 posted 03/20/05 08:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
if you have vdo, they make a dual sender, you can still use the dash lite. i THINK(cant remember now) the vdo dual sender just threaded into the old port. when i installed the air oil cooler head, i retapped so i can now use a crush washer. also retapped the other port, and my oil pressure sender lives there.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195563 posted 03/20/05 08:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here's a pic from RRE of the stock water cooled oil cooler. You should be able to use either the port where they have the extra oil line attached or the bottom plugged port (the bottom one is unfiltered). Not sure though whether they're 1/8" or 3/8". Most aftermarket pressure senders are 1/8 NPST. It seems from other posts that the stock 1/8" ports are BSPT which has 1 thread difference per inch. You can find BSPT to NPST adapters at www.mcmaster.com (it's amazing the things you can find there).


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 195603 posted 03/20/05 10:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
wow, awesome post ray. I don't think I've seen that information before. Good to learn something new every day.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 196454 posted 03/22/05 11:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
on mine, we just used a t fitting a creatively arragned the pointing of the things in that area to allow them all to fit. I'll try tpo post a pic later.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 197992 posted 03/26/05 05:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've also seen some people tap an oil line from the head, the turbo feed line I believe. This has a few advantages. One is that it is the most downstream from the oil pump, which will mean it will read a lower pressure after squirting through all bits of the motor. I've heard of people breaking their 100 psi gauges on a cold start from the gauge pegging, but I don't think this is very common. Another benefit is that the pressure the gauge sees will be after a whole lot of of potential leaks, making them easier to spot on the gauge. It also lets you know what kind of oil pressure your turbo is getting, so as soon as there's an anomaly you can shut down and save that expensive snailshell.

However, I have no actual experience in the matter, as I too am researching the best place to tap in my first oil pressure gauge.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 199295 posted 03/29/05 01:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here you go. Just an example of a distrubution block. This was on a friends 2G Talon with 6 bolt swap; it still gives you a good idea of what I was talking about.
http://www.santown.com/dsm/talon/oilblock.htm



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 200216 posted 03/31/05 12:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have been searching and searching for this adapter from BSPT to NPT, or NSPT and I don't see it anywhere on the mcmaster site, any part # by chance? Maybe I am just too dumb to find it... Its a big site though.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 205368 posted 04/13/05 12:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Does it matter if the pressure sensor is on the filtered or unfiltered side?
Same question, only in regards to a temp gauge?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 205540 posted 04/13/05 10:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have my 1/8"NPT sender tapped right into the 90 Oil filter housing on my Talon, been working for 15k with no problems, it has never come loose.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 205630 posted 04/13/05 01:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It shouldn't matter. The gauge oil is not going anywhere else. Both the sending units for the TEL (gauge and light) are on the unfiltered side. Maybe this is more accurate because it is right after the pump but before any pressure drop through the filter.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 207632 posted 04/18/05 12:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
do not use an autometer electrical guage. very inaccurate pile o shit. if you do, don't use teflon tape, as the sending unit is grounded thru the threads.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 678470 posted 08/07/08 06:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I put genuine DEFI white face electrical gauges into my VR4. Boost, oil pressure and oil temperature.

With oil pressure, I just took the standard sensor out and the new sensor went in perfectly with no dramas at all.
With oil temperature, just replaced the sump plug -same thing, perfect bolt up with no problems

I'll get a photo up of the sensors later if anyone is interested?



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