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Shifter bushings?

GVR4508

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My shifter is pretty sloppy. I was wondering if anyone knew where to get new replacement / lightly used shifter bushings? looking for an entire kit. thank you!
 

lowcashleblanc

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GSX-dude on DSMtuners makes a complete brass set. I just installed his 1g set on my car. This included the bushings on the trans as well. He also makes a more tightly fitted plastic bushing that slides onto the base of our shift levers. Not sure what it’s called.

I remember seeing that he started listing his kits on eBay. I’ll go look.

Edit: here’s his eBay listing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/DCP-28pcs-...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
 

gvr4ever

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I have brass bushings at the transmission linkage, but did the washer hack at the shifter plate. Really cleans things up. Go for that kit.
 

turbofonz

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He sells them individually as well if you want to save money in spots. A guy on tuners makes 3d printed ones as well that work nicely.
 

GVR4508

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GSX-dude on DSMtuners makes a complete brass set. I just installed his 1g set on my car. This included the bushings on the trans as well. He also makes a more tightly fitted plastic bushing that slides onto the base of our shift levers. Not sure what it’s called.

I remember seeing that he started listing his kits on eBay. I’ll go look.

Edit: here’s his eBay listing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/DCP-28pcs-...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
This works for the 92 vr4? if it does that would be niceeee. Ive been looking forever lol.
 

lowcashleblanc

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This works for the 92 vr4? if it does that would be niceeee. Ive been looking forever lol.
Mines a 92 so yes. I think I was unable to use one of his washers on the cable ends that connect to the shifter in cabin. All bushing fit and well I would add.
 

JNR

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Didn't somebody make Delrin® bushings back when?
 

DSSA

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GVR4508

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I really need just the set sandwiching the shifter to limit the east west movement. I really amaze myself how I bang gears in this car with such a sloppy shifter.

unfortunately i might have to hold off for now :// So, my clutch was starting to slip after having so many miles on it, so i replaced it with the same kind of clutch but a brand new one (ACT2600x dsm) because it worked well for my setup. Well when we pulled out the clutch i was going to resurface my flywheel, i asked the machine shop and they said that its been resurfaced a few times already so ill need a new flywheel. Well the last thing i wanted was a lightweight flywheel so i ended up finding a lightly used oem flywheel (about 15-18 lbs i believe? steel) and got that resurfaced and we put everything back together. Well before i started doing any sort of pulls in my car, i was just trying to put 500 miles on it so break in the clutch, around 100 miles or so it started making a HORRIBLE noise. It almost sounds like rod knock but when i fully engage the clutch it goes away. rip
 

DSSA

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I'm going to post this here for future reference/knowledge:

Below is the diagram for the GVR4 shifter assembly with all of the bushings highlighted:

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PNC # 24594B is used in 6 positions. Two where the upper stalk bolts on to the lower stalk, two on the shift lever on the base of the shifter plate, two on the lower stalk where the shifter is bolted to the shifter plate: Part # is MB367320 https://jnztuning.com/product/oem-shifter-bushing-91-94-dsm-91-92-gvr4/

PNC # 24594C is the "cup" bushing that goes on the bottom of the lower stalk and controls the shifter arm that bolts on to the shifter plate. Part # is MB307949 https://jnztuning.com/product/oem-shifter-cup-bushing-1g-2g-dsm/

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The base bushings (PNC 24594D in the diagram above) can either be addressed by replacing them with OEM part # MB659624, but at the time of writing this, there is only *1* located in Mitsubishi's U.S. parts supply. Typically we use the Torque Solutions, solid units: https://jnztuning.com/product/torque-solution-shifter-base-bushing-kit-91-94-dsm/

I'll post the bushings, etc., out in the engine bay later today when I have a chance to breathe around here, but I hope this helps someone.
 

DSSA

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Sheesh! Slacker.

I guess anymore this is what constitutes as "later today".

Here's the under-hood bushings. Pretty simplistic, but when I posted the above I was running ragged.

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The above are the levers out on the transmission. We can stiffen the cable mounting bracket various ways (newest version that I know of are brass bushings---I don't mind them in this case--it's just to solid mount the cables and doesn't rotate), but that's been covered countless ways before. I think the OG www.faq.com site even has relevant solutions.

The ones we're looking at here that can make a difference are PNC #s 23995 ( Part # MD719165 ). Not surprisingly, Mitsubishi currently has them on U.S. back order status in the U.S.. They're around $9 each at this time, and there are two. I have a bunch on order (regardless of whether or not they sell, I want some spares for my cars) but we'll see if they come in. You can take this lever off, and if they're in good shape, clean them and lube them up. These bushings *can* make a bigger difference than you think, and are probably *THE* most overlooked bushing in the shifter system. In fact, several years ago I fell under the impression that I had a definitive grasp on these cars and what could and couldn't make them feel like crap.

(Diatribe moved below...you can skip it if you just want to take my word on how these bushings can ruin shifting)
I had built a transmission for a customer (this means it's been a LONG "few years"), put in a short shifter, replaced the bushings everywhere else, and possibly had new cables in it (can't remember 100% at this point). The car shifted, but it felt like you were pushing through a bowl of half-frozen jello on every shift. We removed the cables, shifter, nothing....trans felt that way shifting it by hand under the hood as well. Pulled the trans, opened the cases---all of the forks, hubs, sleeves, rails...butter. Put the trans back together---same thing. Tear down again..butter. Put trans back together...crap. Call in the only employee that I had over the years that I taught how to build transmissions (and he end up being possibly better than I ever was, in a time-frame that amazed me). We look at it together, *NO ISSUE*. Put it back together, put in car, shifts like crap again. Pull back out...rinse, repeat.

Finally, one of the REALLY OG guys and I are sitting there looking at the car again after a long period of time. We go through the whole saga, and he says "So, the shift lever on the trans is the ONLY thing you haven't tried?" I kinda looked at him, paused for a minute, reviewed everything in my head for a minute and said "Yeah, but it just pivots on the assembly, and I've never seen an issue like that in working on these cars daily for 20+ years now.....crap! Yeah. Okay. Let's swap it.". Swapped the arm from another trans, and sure enough---there's the "butter" that evaded me like a simpleton. I tore the original down and found that a buildup of almost 30 years and degradation of the bearings was seizing it up--literally *thousands* of dollars in shop time lost because of $18 in bushings.

I'm very OCD with stuff, but this was something I missed by NOT being OCD enough, and use it an an argument these days to support said OCD....(END Diatribe)

The shift shoe (PNC # 712919 , Part # MD712919) is typically replaced during rebuilds. It's pretty durable, most likely can use some lube on ANY car, but if you're trying to improve shifting (outside of the transmission itself), it's only about $3. If you're replacing the bushings mentioned further above, it's a quick/cheap thing to replace.

As for the trans cable ends (which got me started on this (now) epic novel), I still swear on the Delrin units we make (and have made for 20+ years). I don't push them often, we don't sell them hand-over-fist, and we (currently) still sell them for the same $18.00 per set that we have since day 1. https://jnztuning.com/product/jnz-tuning-shifter-cable-bushing-kit-dsm/ They also come with the correct sized pin clips (added several years back--they didn't used to like most of the cable end bushings on the market)---yet still the same price.

Hope this helps. Now I'm going back to looking up the seemingly ONE thing I haven't done in 25 years of owning/working on these cars--figuring out how to get the 3rd brake light assembly out of the wing without breaking 30+ year old plastic in the process (ugh--I hate body stuff!).
 
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