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Re: build #62 - UPDATE 9/2 w/ pics


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 932467 posted 09/18/10 11:54 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I neglected to update this thread when she first started running, but I will do so now that she's been running well for a few weeks.

Here's what she looks like sitting all clean and happy out front.


Things weren't exactly as they should be when I got it first started. It took a couple tries to get the knock sensor in there, but it turns out the code I was getting was for that and not the CAS (duh!). I was taking her for a bit of a long trip a couple days ago and while cruising down the highway something made a HUGE clunk and hit the bottom of the car (i felt it in my butt) and so I pull over thinking the driveshaft has exploded. I couldn't see anything so I very cautiously drove home and got her up in the air to find out what went wrong. The only thing I could see was a missing exhaust hanger bolt. I guess I missed screwing one of them in and it must have bounced off the road and a U joint.

So, I just got a job so I'll have spending money and time on the weekends to throw a little more money into the car. So I expect this thread to be a little more consistent than in the past. Maybe it will get moved into the general discussion section too (wink moderators wink).

Edit: I forgot to give you guys the price break down. I cut as many corners as I felt was allowable to save money, but it still was about a grand for the whole thing.

gaskets
230.85
t-belt idler pulley
34.67
t-belt tensioner pulley
28.83
water pump
27.79
CV boots
44.7
axle seals
12.92
turbo rebuild
60
head
255.31
fluids
50
hardware
15
exhaust manifold
35
t-belt tools
62.34

shipping
38.58

total
896.59

I had to get some other things like thread repair and a few tools, so my actual cost was over 1k.



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Edited by Whoodoo (09/18/10 11:59 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 937340 posted 10/06/10 09:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Man that car looks nice and clean.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 937425 posted 10/07/10 03:54 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Why thank you.

My little brother is back at college a few hours north and he's got access to a machine shop. Hence, I have access to a machine shop. I'm hoping make spacers and mill off part of some evo 9 front spring perches so I can get these evo 9 struts/springs on the car to match the rears. Too bad the evo X ones didn't work out, but I guess it was worth a shot.

As far as other news goes, I spent a few hours today with a hose and some soap getting her all clean after the road work just outside my neighborhood got dust EVERYWHERE. I was then going to drive to the beach just before sunset to get pictures of her in front of some mountains with a nice orange backdrop, but.... left the house without a memory card in the camera . I guess those pictures will have to wait for another sunny day (if we ever get one).



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I think we'll see the sun for a day or two in May.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 937714 posted 10/07/10 10:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Lets hope the weather holds out for my tomorrow because I was able to get up to WWU and use their machines to get my Ksport camber plates working on the evo 8/9 front struts. The only difference between the evo X front and evo 8/9 is the shoulder right below the top threads. *Also, the evo X strut is about an inch taller than the 8/9.

evo X:


evo8/9:


So, in order to get enough threads for the top nut to grab, I had to make new lower bushings with a smaller ID to fit over the lower shoulder and take off some steel from the spring perch. If its not raining, there should be evo suspension all round by days end tomorrow.

*After reading through this again, I forgot to add this very important little tidbit of info.



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Edited by Whoodoo (10/19/10 04:34 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 937975 posted 10/08/10 10:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm pissed. I got taken for a ride by a flat brimmed evo doucher. He said his suspension was all good, not blown, used only with stock springs. Ok, I'll give him the stock springs bit because they definitely had been on the struts for a long time (they were really dirty), but if you think 'not blown' means every mediocre bump in the road causes a loud *thud* on rebound, then you've smoked too much.

One of the struts is ok, but the other is a pile of S. Also, it may settle a bit more, but even with a little less than 1 1/4 coil cut, the front still sits a bit higher than the rear.

I know every car is different, but I thought all of you on stock cut evo springs were getting too low with 1 coil and would have preferred less. Maybe the camber plates I'm using sit a bit taller, but I just compared them with the evos and the difference is negligible - less than 1/4 inch taller at most.

WTF?

So, for suspension round 3, I'm thinking about getting koni inserts and moving the spring perch down so I get the ride height I want, but still maintain full shock travel. I did a quick shock travel check by putting a zip tie around the strut shaft and after driving through a fairly bumpy part of the neighborhood, I'd probly be hitting the bump stops. This also leads me to believe that even the strut that doesn't sound bad is on its way out because it was traveling pretty far.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

As for some pictures of what I am working with, here's why I don't just use the evo 8/9 springs and top perch with the evo X struts I have...


As you can see, they are nearly identical (X on the left 8/9 on the right), except for the X strut being an inch or so taller.

As for other differences, the lower perches are pretty much the same. The X has a hump on the inside to locate the spring and the 8/9 has a lip on the outside.


As I had mentioned above, the shoulder just below the top threads is 2mm bigger on the X than the 8/9. (X is below 8/9: 17mm and 15mm respectively)


So, I made some new bushings for the bottom with a smaller ID. I could reuse the top ones because its the same 12mmx1.25 thread.


This isn't the best shot, but here's all the different pieces that go on top. Once again the X spring perch is on the left.


Here's some better pics of the spring perches. X first


And 8/9


And finally, the reason why the lower bushing needs a shoulder on it is so the spherical bearing has room to pivot for camber changes.



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Edited by Whoodoo (10/08/10 10:01 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 939753 posted 10/14/10 07:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, after doing lots of hm's and ha's, I finally decided to just cut my losses and deal with the front suspension being taller than I want it. The evo X struts feel much better damped than the evo 8 ones, so I am now using evo X front struts with evo 8 springs and top spring perches and Ksport camber plates. In order to avoid the situation where cutting a whole coil off the top or bottom of the spring causes it to not stay seated in it's perch, I cut just under 1/2 coil from the top and bottom. This works out pretty well and I'm very satisfied with the way it feels.

Using the evo 8 springs is no big deal because they are the same rate as the evo X spring, they just made a bit differently. Getting the top spring perch onto the evo X strut required making the hole in the middle 2mm bigger, but a little dremelling and that was that.

I've been over this again and again in my head and there is no way to make the evo x strut let the car sit lower. It will always be higher than the evo 9 strut because the strut itself is about an inch taller. As pictured above, the bottom spring perches are about the same height, but because the top of the strut is higher, you need to have a spring with a higher resting height to make up for the space. In order to make the car sit lower than an evo 9 strut would allow means you would need to have a spring with a shorter resting length than the distance between the spring perches. This means there would always have to be a load on the strut in order for the spring to stay put. However, the minute the wheel came of the ground, out the spring would come.

Oh well

Maybe I'll get some of those anti butt-sag spacers the subie guys use to get the rears back up to stock eight with the evo 8 struts.

Edit: I did not use these springs in the end. Cutting 1/2 from the top and bottom worked alright, but made the top of the spring not quite sit right in it's perch. Instead, I ended up using 8/9 springs with 3/4 coils cut from the bottom. This gave almost exactly the same result with the benefit of having the whole dead coil on top to keep it seated.



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Edited by Whoodoo (10/19/10 04:40 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1008329 posted 07/30/11 05:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, a couple days ago the galant saw the broad side of another vehicle. Damage doesn't look too bad, there are no leaks, and it still drives ok. I'll probably be looking around for all the parts needing replacement and from what I can see I'll be needing to get the following bits and pieces:

Hood
Fender
Headlight
Bumper
Bumper support
Foglight

Pics:







Bummer, but everyone was ok and I think its all body damage, nothing that can't be fixed.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1008371 posted 07/30/11 08:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ouch! Sorry to hear that man. Your ok right?



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Whoodoo
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1027038 posted 10/19/11 01:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
At 3:00 am, my car arrived at my house in NY!

First, I gotta take all the crap out of the backseat/trunk, then I will see about getting the frame pulled and all the front end damage fixed. Maybe I'll finally start getting this build underway because now I won't be relying on 62 for DD duty.

I'm stoked!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1027950 posted 10/22/11 01:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hell yeah man. Take pics of our cars together. It will be hawt yo



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Whoodoo
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139874 posted 09/10/13 09:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Holy crap... It's happening. I have a budget and I'm bringing her back to the streets. She is currently at the frame shop awaiting her spot in line on the frame machine and we'll see how much it takes to get her straight again. I sure as hell hope its doable because I just spent $200 on a new Duralast Yellowtop and $905 on a CMPE full 2.5" turbo back exhaust!

I have a bumper coming (thanks Diego), and will be searching out the rest of the parts once I get her back and can really find out what is salvageable or not. Boy is this exciting or what? I am going to need to practice a little self control and refrain from going JSB for too long because she deserves to be on the road.

But damn there is so much I want to do - I have some 3kgt trailing arms that I want to put on, I would love to do a whole undercarriage treatment for rust prevention, I have always toyed with the idea of splicing an evo 3 hood bulge onto a VR4 hood...

Number one goal is to get her fixed and running so I can DD her and get rid of some monthly expenses (by by veloster). If I can sneak some slight upgrades in the process, then that's great too.



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Edited by Whoodoo (09/10/13 09:57 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1142782 posted 10/02/13 09:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
First off, they pulled the frame rail back out straight and it only cost me $300. I was expecting to pay a lot more than that, so I can justify some extra expenses elsewhere. I have located a USDM bumper (thanks Diego), grill (thanks maroonmetallic), and brand new hood and fenders. I just picked them up today, but a quick peek into the packaging and I think they are nile black! Wouldn't that be cool...

Anyways, I took the old fenders off and boy is this car clean underneath. It's too bad she was in an accident because look at these rust-free fenders!



I installed the CMPE exhaust a few weekends ago. It's a turbo back 2.5" with cat, resonator, and dual tips. The exhaust is beautiful and well made, but my only complaint is that the exhaust tips look to be rotated maybe 5 or 10 degrees.





Now I just need to locate a few more bits and pieces, get them all installed, and have an alignment and some brake work done and the she will be ready for NY registration.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1142849 posted 10/03/13 07:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
She's getting there!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1142973 posted 10/03/13 06:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
CMPE suggested the exhaust was a a little low and that I should try to adjust the hangars. I'll try that and see if I can rotate it up a little.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1157515 posted 01/26/14 09:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Just picked the car up from the body shop yesterday.



Thanks to Diego, seizer, and minneSNOWta for the front end components, I now have a whole car again! The hood and fenders are aftermarket, so the front corners of the fenders stick in front of the hood by about a quarter inch. Not ideal, but the point was to get the car back on the road - not win a beauty contest. Plus, I have resigned to the fact that she is no longer the ultra clean and untouched example that she was when I bought her 5 years ago.

I'm getting the brakes checked out, an alignment done, and probably some new tires. Then I'll try to sell the Veloster and put the galant back to work being a daily driver.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1158576 posted 02/05/14 05:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice man, glad we were able to help out. Let's see those foggies shine!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1158577 posted 02/05/14 05:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
car looks great. im really impressed with the body shops work. i cant wiat to get mine painted up all pretty.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1158800 posted 02/07/14 05:54 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There are still some little things that I need to take care of. The selector for the AVAC controls won't go past the footwell/direct blow location, there isn't a whole lot of heat coming through the vents, I think i have a baby exhaust leak after the downpipe, the 10 year old head unit sucks, and the idle has issues - really high on cold start, then bumbles and rumbles around 500RPM or thereabouts when warm.

That doesn't stop me from having fun in the snow! click for general hooliganistics



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1158829 posted 02/07/14 10:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Whoodoo:

Just picked the car up from the body shop yesterday.

The hood and fenders are aftermarket, so the front corners of the fenders stick in front of the hood by about a quarter inch.




One of my cars has aftermarket fenders and the same problem. I'm not too happy about it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1159487 posted 02/12/14 06:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
glad you got it all fixed back up, bet your a happy camper now.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1159514 posted 02/12/14 12:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What happened to the nice wheels? bronze rota torques? Thats what I want on mine.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1159574 posted 02/12/14 08:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I still have them. I needed new tires on both sets of wheels so I figured I would put the skinny all seasons on the stock wheels for the winter and then put some nicer summer tires on the rotas when all the snow goes away.



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