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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1237562 posted 05/28/17 08:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Cute



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238044 posted 06/16/17 03:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, finally decided to man up and install the new trans and turbo setup. These parts have been sitting in the garage for almost a year now, so I figured it was about time they get put to use.

I started off by pulling the old trans, and installing a new to me Shep "stage 2" box. Specs according to the build sheet I have are:

Shep stage II transmission:
--- New input shaft
--- New 3-4 hub/sleeve
--- New 3-4 fork
--- New DSM 3-4 gears
--- Double 2-3 synchros
--- Welded center diff





So, I got to work pulling the old trans. The my clutch has been good, so I didn't have any reason to touch it. I did install a new ACT release bearing, as well as a Competition Clutch forged steel release fork & pivot ball, though.









A little tidbit... The @Turbo Performance manifold blankets are awesome. Mine is going on a few years old now, and it's still holding up pretty good! I did lose a grommet, but after eleventy million heat cycles and pulling this on and off the car nearly a dozen times, this thing has held up really damn good. You can see in the last few pictures in this post how it looks like new with a fresh coat of VHT Flameproof.






Well, onto the turbo stuff... A Forced Performance 3052 ball bearing turbo has replaced the 68HTA V2. I decided to pair this up with a Forced Performance 3" cast recirculated V-band O2 housing and Tial 44mm wastegate.






Here's the FP3052 compared to the 68HTA V2:










Once I got the turbo all bolted up, it was time to reconfigure the exhaust and hot side intercooler piping.




At this stage in my life, I'm tired of fucking with 2 bolt flanges and gaskets. Since the car is apart and I'm having to reconfigure everything, I wanted to take the opportunity to go to V-band flanges where possible. So, I converted the downpipe and hot side intercooler piping.








Once everything was welded up, it was time to install and check for fitment.








While the car was down, I also did some work to the front brakes. I gave the calipers a fresh coat of paint, and cleaned up the front hubs. I also installed new StopTech Sport drilled & slotted brake rotors and Hawk HP Plus pads.








After all that, I primed the new turbo, and took it out for a drive. The car runs awesome, and the top end has drastically improved. As with any new setup, I'm still working out some small bugs, but hopefully in the coming weeks I have some hard performance data to share. Hopefully, trips to the dyno and track are in the near future.

As always, thanks for following the build!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238046 posted 06/16/17 04:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice work Brett. Why did you wait a year?

And does FP made t3 housings for their turbos yet?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238048 posted 06/16/17 04:22 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks good man. Are those 1g or 2g 3kgt calipers?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238063 posted 06/17/17 10:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Jesus_Negros:

Nice work Brett. Why did you wait a year?

And does FP made t3 housings for their turbos yet?




Thanks, man.

Why have these parts been on the shelf for so long? Well, 2 reasons, really:

The first is just finding time. Getting out the the garage to work on the car is only getting harder these days.

The second being, the car has been so reliable, I didn't want to tear into it. I've had zero issues with the car since probably before the DSM Shootout last year. After installing the 68HTA on the car, I was able to work out all the bugs and simply enjoy the car. It was hard to bring myself to really tear into the car when it's running so good, especially when nothing is broken.

Since the new turbo went on, I'm back to square 1 working out more little bugs with the new setup, which always seems to take more time and money than you plan for. I'm already missing being able to jump into the car and know I can go anywhere at anytime in it. I've realized one of the toughest parts of modding my cars has been ensuring they are reliable. If my shit won't sit in stop and go traffic for hours on end and not give 2 fucks, I'm not satisfied with the build. Making the powaz has become a secondary objective for me, personally.

What's hilarious I remember talking shit to Mark way back in the day about his car being the same for a decade (among other things, lol)...Now I completely understand his sentiment

At some point, you get just tired of wrenching, and dumping time and money into these turds. A lesson learned only learned in due time, I suppose.

Regarding the question about FP's turbine housing options, I think you can get a variety of turbine housing options with most FP turbos these days. If it's not available directly on their website, you can usually call/email and they can hook you up with whatever you need. It won't be cheap, but then again turbos typically aren't.




Quoting G:

Looks good man. Are those 1g or 2g 3kgt calipers?




I appreciate it, G.

They are the 2nd gen (1994-1999 IIRC) 3KGT calipers which use the larger 12" rotors (12746052L (/R)). They look and work awesome on the Galant.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238066 posted 06/17/17 01:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I feel you. Modding isn't as fun when it hurts the "get in and go" factor. I tend to be very slow when it comes to modifications. Look at My conquest lol. It hasn't ran in years and I've had 90% of what's needed just sitting I the garage waiting for my effort. One day eventually I'll get off my ass.



Quoting coyotes:

Just because you WANT your rare turd to be valuable doesn't mean it's gonna be.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238180 posted 06/26/17 02:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Still playing with the new setup, but so far this FP3052 is pretty legit. Anybody want a turbo that makes 30 PSI by 4K RPM?




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238312 posted 07/02/17 12:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Wrenching continues! Recap of the updates from the last few weeks.

Alright, cooling...

After I swapped to the FP3052, I ended up having to ditch the passenger side cooling fan due to the lack of clearance on the back side of the radiator. I was hoping a single fan would keep up, but it wasn't quite cutting it after extended idle time. So, I relocated the fan to the front side of the A/C condenser in a pusher configuration. It was a bastard squeezing the fan into that tiny space, but it ended up fitting pretty well.





With the fan relocated to in front side of the condenser, I had to move my oil cooler, which was previously in that space. Since I had to move it anyways, I figured it was a good time to upgrade. So, I picked up a B&M oil cooler setup to replace the factory 1990 oil cooler I was running previously. I situated it where the deleted ABS unit was, which locates the core nicely to get adequate airflow.

Old setup:





New setup:






With the FP30 turbine housing being located so close to the radiator on the Galant, I wanted to do a little extra to divert some of the heat in that area. So, I picked up a PTP turbine housing blanket. It's a really nice blanket, and fits like a glove. It also works awesome. You can literally touch the blanket after extended engine operation.

All the improvements in the cooling department seem to be working really well. We're seeing mid 80's to mid 90's here (about as hot as it gets in MD) with horrible humidity, and I've yet to see anything much over 206 degrees. I'll provide some future updates after I get some more seat time.







I installed new plugs gapped at .028 since I added the CDI box. Previously, I was gapped down to .018, which circumvented some ignition issues I was having at higher boost levels. I figured while the plugs were out, I'd also do a compression test. I'm still at 175-180 PSI across the board, which I'm pretty happy with.









The FP3052 didn't like my old 3" intake, which seemed to be causing some compressor surge. So, I crafted up a 4" version that basically mimicked the old one.






Continuing my quest for crisper shifts, I installed new OEM shifter cables, a new cable bracket, and upgraded to solid shifter base bushings.






I replaced the rear carrier bushings with new OEM stuff as well. I forgot to do this when I added the DSS driveshaft, so I finally just got around to doing it.





At this point, I think I've got most of the bugs worked out. I'll be playing with the tune, and putting some test miles on the new setup in the next few weeks. So far, I'm really impressed with the FP3052. The car runs and feels awesome. It's hard to compare the FP3052 fairly to the 68HTA, since the entire hot side is exponentially more efficient. But, the FP3052 in it's current configuration is definitely the superior street turbo. I'm seeing 30 PSI by 4k RPM, and this turbo has awesome top end to match the quick low end response. I'm hoping for a visit to the track, and maybe even the dyno in the near future to get some real numbers up for comparison. Thanks for reading along.





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238329 posted 07/03/17 12:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice location for that new oil cooler. The inlets on the JDM bumpers are just asking to be put to good use. They're nicely sculpted.

It's fun watching here. Stoked you finally stuck that 3052 on there. GT3076/ FP3052 have long been my choice until the advent of EFR stuff. I suppose now that's not even new tech anymore. Anyway, they're just such a good balance of drivability/flexibility and ultimate power.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238334 posted 07/03/17 10:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Damn, it sucks that I'll be leaving before I get to see this thing! It's clean as hell and you'll probably never need more turbo than that.



Quoting coyotes:

Just because you WANT your rare turd to be valuable doesn't mean it's gonna be.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238338 posted 07/03/17 11:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting ApexHunter:

Nice location for that new oil cooler. The inlets on the JDM bumpers are just asking to be put to good use. They're nicely sculpted.

It's fun watching here. Stoked you finally stuck that 3052 on there. GT3076/ FP3052 have long been my choice until the advent of EFR stuff. I suppose now that's not even new tech anymore. Anyway, they're just such a good balance of drivability/flexibility and ultimate power.




Yeah, David, I'd love to have the latest and greatest Xona Rotor DSM 61-56 for this build, but a 2K turbo just isn't in the cards right now. I just put those parts on the wish list so I don't forget about them, and hopefully they make it onto the car some day. Hell, I wanted a 3052 or 3065 back when I had 1813. It only took me 5 years to finally get there...Finally out of "16g land" now


The logs I have say this setup is a good recipe for the ultimate street car. This turbo isn't going to set record dyno numbers, but it's sure to impress anyone who casually wants to go for a ride around the block. The other day, I let my wife drive it for the first time since I swapped to the 3052. Now, she says she wants 820 to "have more G force" like 1837 does. If it impresses her, that's saying something!




Quoting Jesus_Negros:

Damn, it sucks that I'll be leaving before I get to see this thing! It's clean as hell and you'll probably never need more turbo than that.





Meh, my command is dicking me around. I'm not even sure if I'm going to be PCS'ing anymore. I might be stuck here for another year or more.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238361 posted 07/04/17 04:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't think I'd ever go away from using my 3052. Other than maybe the HTA upgrade. It's a lot of fun with the power it makes and isn't so much that I have to worry about easily breaking drivetrain parts. Just a nice all around setup.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1238656 posted 07/20/17 10:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
White, nice choice of color!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241073 posted 12/21/17 09:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Sorta unrelated to the build, but related in a sense that it's impeding my progress. My new garage...It was f***ed. So, I built a workbench, and added some other man sh** to make wrenching on the grocery getter as painless as possible. 4 days, 6 trips to Lowe's and ~$400 bucks later and wrenching can finally commence. Hoping to have some updates on the car soon.




Workhorse:


Before:





After:





Before:





After:



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241082 posted 12/22/17 04:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Looks more tidy! Swap out that water heater for a tankless unit and free up space!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241083 posted 12/22/17 08:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice work! I will for damn sure swing by with my galant on my next trip to sd!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241090 posted 12/23/17 09:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
DAMN dude looks great!!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241103 posted 12/24/17 03:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks for the compliments, guys. The garage is great to work in now. I got the head off the car last night, and the results were not what I was hoping for...









It looks to me like the casting was porous and just overall garbage in that area. I'm thinking a pit became a hot spot, which eventually torched a hole in the casting? I'm no expert in trashed heads, though, and I've never seen damage like this, so I'm definitely open to other suggestions. I just know the head was clean when it went on, and not it has a gouge in it right where the fire ring was. I was hoping to just do a head gasket job, but looks like I'll be in the market for a head at this point. Sucks.

On the plus side, I checked crank end play to see how my ACT 2600 has been treating the thrust, and it's still right where I set it when I built the motor: click


I'll sort out what I'm going to do with the head, and pull the trans to install my QM twin disc in the mean time. I should have some updates on how that goes here soon.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241130 posted 12/26/17 05:38 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You could have that welded then resurface the head.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241145 posted 12/27/17 03:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do you have pics of the plugs?

Honestly to me, based on the pitting, and the white in that hole, not to mention the fact that there's less carbon there than in the adjoining cylinders... I feel like pre-ignition is the issue here. Casting is a possibility, but I'd lean towards injector issue.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241667 posted 02/18/18 09:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
A lot has happened since I updated this last. Life has been crazy lately, and time for the car has been slim to none. Wrenching a little here and there, I finally got it all back together. After pulling the head, I got to work knocking out some of the other additions I planned to make to the build.






Once everything was pulled apart, I went ahead and did some cleaning where needed. I also repainted the hot parts, per the usual. If I had to guess, damn near 60% of my time is spent cleaning rather than building...But it's always worth it in the end.







Here's a little before and after of the head. It took the machine shop 2 times to get it right, but it turned out pretty decent in the end. I went ahead and ported the oil passage since I lost some meat from the deck surface.








Since the car was down and apart, it was finally time to put in some of the new parts I've had on the shelf. The big one was a new Quarter Master Gear-Drive 6-leg clutch and flywheel custom spec'd for the car by Tim at TMZ. It was a pretty pricey addition, but it's also a pretty nice piece of hardware. A new Mitsubishi TOB and Competition Clutch release fork & pivot ball went in as well.









Trans installed single-handedly...Because engine hoist > any amount of hands.





After much wasted time and ass pain, DSS finally shipped me a new slip yoke. With the addition of all new Torque Solutions motor mounts, I'm hoping the slip yoke will hold out longer than the last one did. Time will tell. I also added a Vibrant resonator in place of my old cat make some extra room for the DSS driveshaft.










A Fluidampr and some new ARP hardware sum up the new additions.





Head back on.





All buttoned up.






Annnnnnd finally done wrenching. Got some fresh corn juice and put some miles on the car!







At this point, I've got about 200 miles on the new setup, and so far so good. Now, just need to get back on the dyno, down the 1/4 mile, or on the road course...Or all of the above



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Edited by GSTwithPSI (02/19/18 01:28 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241669 posted 02/19/18 05:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I can only imagine what this looked like. Pics are broken, lol.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241677 posted 02/19/18 01:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting thomcasey:

I can only imagine what this looked like. Pics are broken, lol.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1241678 posted 02/19/18 02:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Excellent. Such a clean build.



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damn dude looking good!



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