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Tranny rebuild: TRE or Shep?


CP
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208301 posted 04/19/05 08:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've come to find out that the tranny I removed last November was stock, and had been rebuilt by some shop down in FL about a year ago. Maybe this was the reason for the ticking first gear.

Anyway, I'd like to send it out for a quality rebuild this summer (and some synchros). The car is a daily driver, and may never see a drag strip again. The two big players seem to be Shep Racing and Team Rip Engineering:

http://www.shepracing.com/sr_serv2.html
http://www.teamrip.com/TRE%20AWD%20SERVICES.html

Prices for the complete service are within $200 of each other. However the TRE service appears to replace more parts. I'm assuming that I'll need a new first gear to fix the ticking. TRE also offers a 10% taller 5th gear, which I'm dying to get (can you see a trend here?).

Which would you recommend and why?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208319 posted 04/19/05 09:11 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Shep. I will never do business with TRE again. He didn't take my money but he did take far too long and promised the tranny would be done by X date when it wasn't even started. He finally got it to me a couple days before my lease was up and the output shaft was wrong so I had to find a t-case locally. He did reimburse me for that 100% however.

He is not a bad guy but unless he's changed or he knows you, I don't feel like you get service in a timely manner. The tranny did shift great though.


Edited by Pivvay (04/19/05 09:12 AM)

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CP
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208330 posted 04/19/05 09:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
These are very similar comments to what I've heard from some local guys. TRE seems to have some customer service issues. Shep it is then.



-Cy
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208331 posted 04/19/05 09:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
go here.
dog box racing

Alex is one of the owners and is an awesome guy! I know several people who got built trannies from him and have had no problem. My one buddy runs 12.0s all day shifting at 7500 rpms and it still shifts perfect as a daily driver. I can't wait till mine goes to get one done by him. He's out of North Jersey.

Geoff

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208348 posted 04/19/05 09:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

go here.
dog box racing

Alex is one of the owners and is an awesome guy! I know several people who got built trannies from him and have had no problem. My one buddy runs 12.0s all day shifting at 7500 rpms and it still shifts perfect as a daily driver. I can't wait till mine goes to get one done by him. He's out of North Jersey.

Geoff




Yup call up Brian
he did 4 trannies for me already and they shift like butter
also the prices are unbelievable

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208349 posted 04/19/05 09:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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go here.
dog box racing

Alex is one of the owners and is an awesome guy! I know several people who got built trannies from him and have had no problem. Geoff




Highly recommned Alex and Brian at DogBoxRacing.com
I have one of their transmissions in my car, 10k miles of pure abuse and it shifts perfect.
It is also the smoothest shifting trans I have ever driven in a dsm.
Their prices are very good too.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208398 posted 04/19/05 11:12 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If Im reading the Shep site right, his rebuild starts at 895.
Sounds like thats the one you want since you said you're not looking for a drag-box.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208401 posted 04/19/05 11:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

go here.
dog box racing

Alex is one of the owners and is an awesome guy! I know several people who got built trannies from him and have had no problem. My one buddy runs 12.0s all day shifting at 7500 rpms and it still shifts perfect as a daily driver. I can't wait till mine goes to get one done by him. He's out of North Jersey.

Geoff





What town are they in?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208421 posted 04/19/05 11:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

I've come to find out that the tranny I removed last November was stock, and had been rebuilt by some shop down in FL about a year ago. Maybe this was the reason for the ticking first gear.




It was rebuilt by Jerry in Tampa with whatever needed replacing replaced and a double synchro second. When the ticking started and I posted about it on the board, the consensus was that it's not a bad gear, but a bad bearing.



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CP
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208434 posted 04/19/05 12:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks Paul. The redheaded step-tranny is spending some quality time in the corner of my garage for now.



-Cy
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208458 posted 04/19/05 01:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I just got mine done, I got it built locally by a guy that has been building DSM trannies for a 3-4 years now. The tranny in my VR4 was built by the same dude.
here is the specs
91 Tranny case (23spline)
Custom 4spider center differiental (machined here in Colorado)
1-2 Steel shift fork
3-4 Steel shift fork
Galant VR4 1st gear
Double Coned second Gear and syncros
All new bearings
All new syncros.
Bigger 3-4 gears (stock 91-92 gears)

I'm not even going to tell you how much I'm paying, let's just say I got a KILLER deal, didin't get charged for labor and got a deal on the Differiental because the builder took 3 months to finish it. But for the price I would of waited another 3months. I'll give you guys a ball figure I paid less then $825 for everything.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208489 posted 04/19/05 02:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Well I just got mine done, I got it built locally by a guy that has been building DSM trannies for a 3-4 years now. The tranny in my VR4 was built by the same dude.
here is the specs
91 Tranny case (23spline)
Custom 4spider center differiental (machined here in Colorado)
1-2 Steel shift fork
3-4 Steel shift fork
Galant VR4 1st gear
Double Coned second Gear and syncros
All new bearings
All new syncros.
Bigger 3-4 gears (stock 91-92 gears)

I'm not even going to tell you how much I'm paying, let's just say I got a KILLER deal, didin't get charged for labor and got a deal on the Differiental because the builder took 3 months to finish it. But for the price I would of waited another 3months. I'll give you guys a ball figure I paid less then $825 for everything.


jack im guessing? im heading down there today to drop my tranny off i think..

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208495 posted 04/19/05 02:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Damn, I guess dogbox will get my business in the future. $725 for parts and labor on a basic rebuild and its in the same state as me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208502 posted 04/19/05 03:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
i got a BM trans now know as a turbo trix trans. shifts great no complaints from me

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208760 posted 04/20/05 06:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Quote:

go here.
dog box racing

Alex is one of the owners and is an awesome guy! I know several people who got built trannies from him and have had no problem. My one buddy runs 12.0s all day shifting at 7500 rpms and it still shifts perfect as a daily driver. I can't wait till mine goes to get one done by him. He's out of North Jersey.

Geoff





What town are they in?




I think Brick, NJ or in that area.

-Ant

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208820 posted 04/20/05 09:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My trannies were rebuilt by B&M which has now merged with Turbotrix. I highly recommend them, they built a race tranny for my Talon as well as a stock rebuild for the Vr4. Edison, NJ



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208834 posted 04/20/05 10:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hands down either Shep or Dogbox depends on how much u want to spend

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 208876 posted 04/20/05 12:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
According to the webpages, doesn't it look like Shep is several hundred dollars cheaper for the basic rebuild?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 209103 posted 04/20/05 10:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Call Lucas English at EnglishRacing.net before you make any decisions. 360-901-3112.

He has done a few trannies for me and hundreds of transmissions for other DSM and GVR4 customers. Excellent service, warranty, and minimal downtime for you.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 209936 posted 04/22/05 03:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think the aforementioned TRE customer issue is no longer true.
[email protected] hired a helper ( Ming? ) and the turn around has been a lot quicker.

I got mine done in about 3 days.
1 day to disassemble.
1 day to discuss my options with me on the phone and wait for my decision
1 day to assemble

Including shipping, the turn around time was just slightly over one week.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 209937 posted 04/22/05 03:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ming has worked there for at least a couple of years IIRC.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 209944 posted 04/22/05 03:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ming was there when I had my tranny there. It certainly didn't make it faster.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 209950 posted 04/22/05 03:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mine took 3 weeks, and I'm not pleased witht he results so far. I've always had to SHOVE it hard to get it into first gear, and its not loosening up much at 1600+ miles. It also "catches" as it goes into most gears, sort of feels like a slight clunk, not what I would call a smooth engagement, and I've run BG Syncroshift II in it from the beginning. Another $1800 down the toilet.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 210010 posted 04/22/05 06:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Jeff, what kind of clutch? What kind/size of slave cylinder?

I just switched over to the smaller diameter slave cylinder and my car now shifts like buttah. I had Shep do mine, and it was acting exactly as you describe.

I've got an ACT 2600, btw.

twkd

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 210048 posted 04/22/05 07:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I had TRE do mine also. Wait was no issue since the car wasn't going to be on the road for the winter.

But like Keydiver I too have that clunking syndrom. (Still better than it was before the build - but certainly not like buddah)

Maybe I'll have to check out the smaller dia. slave cylinder.

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