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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187438 posted 09/03/14 08:41 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Iím looking for opinions on a welder to do exhaust, intercooler, etc for the car and projects around the house.
So far Iím thinking a 140 amp unit will do the job and is also normal household 120 volt.
The ones being considered are:
1. Hobart 140C MIG $525 (not spool ready)
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2. Miller 140 MIG $700 ish (spool ready, optional @$230)
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3. Tweco 140i fabricator STICK, MIG, TIG (spool ready optional $130, foot pedal capable optional)
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Info about Tweco welders/ use to be Thermal Arc click

I am new to welding so any insight will be appreciated.
-Joe


Edited by joemoto (09/04/14 07:16 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187439 posted 09/03/14 09:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well imo, If your planning on welding IC piping I would say get the tweco so you can tig aswell. I've never heard of the brand, but I haven't heard of many of the brands that are out in the market to be honest. Mig would be cool on welding exhaust and intercooler (mild steel or SS), Aluminum would get tricky with a mig especially trying to weld round parts.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187448 posted 09/03/14 10:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm pretty sure anything running off of 110-120v isn't going to do the job for aluminum anyway.
Based on what i've heard and read, i wouldn't even try it.

Then again, i used stainless for my IC plumbing. It's heavier, but much easier to work with and doesn't oxidize.

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?9777-Why-not-a-110v-for-aluminum



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187452 posted 09/03/14 10:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I can run 115/or 220 on my everlast 200dx power tig dual voltage and it welds aluminum just fine to a certain point on 115. You can even weld 1/4 with only 120 apms if you use a argon and helium mix. Plus Aluminum piping, especially IC piping isn't too thick anyway, 16gauge I think most of it is.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187537 posted 09/03/14 07:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I can second the aluminum piping on 110v. I regularly use my Eastwood TIG on the low voltage input and can weld up to 1/8" thick easily. In fact, I have more issues tripping the breaker than not being able to get enough penetration.

I have used an aluminum spool gun at my work a bunch, and IMHO, for "pretty" welds, it's no comparison to TIG. Sure it will hold the pieces together, but I've rarely had a consistent, dime-like stack.


Although you won't be welding Aluminum with the Tweco welder either as it's DC only. It also doesn't look like it's footpedal ready, which is VERY nice to have when doing aluminum, esp thinner stuff.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187540 posted 09/03/14 07:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is the Eastwood I have. If you are short on cash, I'll keep an eye out. They are local, and post open-box and scratch/dent sales fairly often and that's how I got mine.

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I think it will do everything you want as long as you are ok with TIG welding everything. You could always pick up a cheap MIG from Craigslist or Harbor Freight.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187559 posted 09/03/14 09:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Personally, I'd go with a MIG setup if you're new to welding. You can always make IC pipes from aluminized steel mandrel bends too, that's what I do. I have a HH187 and love it, I'm sure the 140 is a great welder too. I'd go with the Hobart if it were me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187595 posted 09/03/14 11:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
2nd on that Eastwood 200 TIG, best deal outhere. Just a tip if you go out there and do Tig welding for everything:
1) get a stubby gas lens kit
2) get the biggest tank of argon you can afford as you will go thru it fast
3) get a good quality welding helmet/gloves

Maybe the most important, become best friends with your electric company

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187673 posted 09/04/14 07:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you all for responding, the advice and information; I have been doing a lot of reading and as a result many assumptions about welding and the equipment.

I had thought that I would be able to TIG with the Tweco 141i however, I now know that an AC welder is needed such as the Eastwood model that was mentioned.

I decided to focus on the easiest form of welding, that being MIG. I am going to get a Lincoln 140C . I didn't even list the Lincoln because of some reviews I read about wire feed issues. I didn't know that Lincoln has a few "140" models, such as "140C" "Weld Pak 140", "140 HD", "140T", and possibly more.

The Lincoln 140C costs about $100 dollars more than the Hobart but the Hobart is not SpoolGun ready and I don't plan on running aluminum through the MIG gun.

I'm planning to take a welding class at the local college in January, it serves as an introduction to MIG, TIG, and Stick theory and hands on. After I likely will look into a TIG or TIG Stick unit.

-Joe


Edited by joemoto (09/04/14 07:17 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187677 posted 09/04/14 07:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have a god awful amount of wire through my Lincoln Weld-Pak HD (now the 140 series IIRC) and haven't had any feed issues. Owned it for about 10 years. It's a good dependable welder for sure.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187716 posted 09/05/14 06:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know that Lincoln is a very good product, that is why I'm getting one.
There were only a few people that had an issue and hundreds more loved it.
It came down to the Hobart 140 or the Lincoln and the Lincoln is spoolgun ready.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187718 posted 09/05/14 06:51 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Good choice man, after you get the hang of things you'll wonder how you made it this far without having a welder around. They really are that useful and not on just car stuff. The people that did give it bad reviews probably weren't doing something right or didn't read the directions.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1187723 posted 09/05/14 06:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Very likely that is the case. This also has continuously variable power,which I may be able to take advantage of in the future.



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Edited by joemoto (09/05/14 06:57 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205945 posted 04/09/15 03:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know this is an "old" thread, but didn't want to make a new thread.

I do not want to cheap out on a TIG welder, but then again I do not want to buy something new. Is this a decent deal or should I stay away. I wish it would come with a bottle: click

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205948 posted 04/09/15 04:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Not a bad price for the setup, could be talked down a little bit I assume.

With the cooler it makes it worth it!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205958 posted 04/09/15 05:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That was what I was thinking. I will see how cheaply he will go.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205963 posted 04/09/15 07:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Great deal man, I would give him the asking price if he could throw in a 330'f tank of argon/regulator as I dont see one there. Also test it first, make sure it will weld what you want it for. And maybe see if theres a helmet in the deal

Not to thread jack but I have that much into my whole fab/welding shop setup.....just food for thought. PM me, I can give you no b/s advice about actual costs vs wants



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