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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139438 posted 09/07/13 03:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have a 92 gvr4 with almost 200k on the clock. I found a 2003 Evo 8 that's totaled for cheap tossing around the idea of a full swap. Drive train suspension brakes. Electronics everything. What do you guys think? Ability is not a problem just wondering what I might get myself into. Tried searching but couldn't find any real info.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139440 posted 09/07/13 04:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Because no one does it. There is one user on here that I know personally who had everything researched, had the parts to do it but ended up not doing it. Why? Not sure but he had everything and was capable of doing so. Stick with what the car already came with.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139445 posted 09/07/13 05:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
its to much effort and work to do it. the engine and drivetrain require welding and the changing of mounts. basically to much hassle for the outcome.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139461 posted 09/07/13 06:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Like they said...GVR4 already has pretty much all that stuff and after all that work you will get not much gain, if any.

However, having all that means you can find something else to swap all that into. Like a Volvo P1800s (My swap of choice), an old school Mitsu, 30s Ford, 40s Dodge Pickup, etc. Use your imagination. Lots of cars that are begging for a better powertrain.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139463 posted 09/07/13 06:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
96-01 mirage would work too. I was contemplating making mine a Evo 5/6 but I didn't have a parts Evo laying around



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139475 posted 09/07/13 08:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
yeah, like a 39 ford deluxe all tubbed out with a RWD evo8 implant... i want to see that.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139477 posted 09/07/13 08:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Rwd swap it into a starion.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139498 posted 09/07/13 11:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ya a rwd evo8 powered starion would be so sick!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139506 posted 09/08/13 12:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Someone here in the philippines swapped the engine and tranny. But locked it to fwd. rear subframe is too big... He said its not worth it to cut/convert almost the whole rear end just mo make it fit. It will definitely weaken the chassis. Engine the tranny comvertion looks sick though.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139507 posted 09/08/13 12:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139511 posted 09/08/13 01:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That honestly is the most stupid decisions I have ever seen done since we have an awd and engine that's capable of the same things .



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139512 posted 09/08/13 01:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well we didnt get the turbo galant vr4 here in the philippines. Only the 2.0 na 63 fwd. the car he used had the 4g37 1.8l carb engine. Most of us do engine swaps and drivetrain convertion. We get surplus parts from japan every now and then from local surplus shops like brian/kama1

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139513 posted 09/08/13 01:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The guy had the engine and tanny lying around and he already have a 6g with 63t and awd. He just did sumthing different to play around with

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139517 posted 09/08/13 02:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Makes sense if you never got the vr4. But to swap it into a vr4....

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139520 posted 09/08/13 05:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Jeff was that acg_jdms car?

Ive thought about this and whats killing the idea for me is wiring it all up.
Ive got a few spare 2wd shells down here,and evo engines and drivetrain prices from the 456 are dropping.

Swap it in a real e39a?no way.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139549 posted 09/08/13 01:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Swap to a mirage, 3g eclipse or 8g galant. 4 cylinder talents are like 700 running. And should be a much more straight toward swap.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139718 posted 09/09/13 07:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Here was the idea guys. I want a 400-450 awhp car that drives like stock and I don't have worry about. Yes the engine can handle that nearly stock or with a few diff parts but not the transmission and transfer case. Yes I know I can get them built for fairly cheap, but I don't want a dog boxed tranny with straight cut gears for a daily driver. As far as cost there is no question, the
Evo swap would be much cheaper. I'm finding Evo 8's in 4-6k range. (Totaled)

Now if we are just talking about standard swap stuff (wiring little cutting and welding, BFF) then to me it's a no brainer and i really don't understand all the hate.
I've done many swaps before. 4.6 fox body's swapped Hondas a few from the ground up builds. I haven't really looked at the Evo yet so there may be something obvious I'm over looking. Its just an idea I'm tossing around. But can anyone give me more of a reason then it's just not worth it? My understand is the Evo drive train would handle the power levels I'm looking for with ease. Not to mention better breaks and whatever suspension pieces I can use.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139720 posted 09/09/13 08:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You don't need a dog box to handle 450whp. It's also not just a little cutting and welding. Everything is reversed, so all of the engine/transmission mounts will have to be custom. The existing chassis mounting points will have to be redone.

The driveshaft won't line up with diff, plus the floor may be in the way now. You will need custom front axles. Out of the EVO suspension, you will only be able to use the shocks and springs, and they need to be modified. Rear Brembos means no emergency brake.

I have no idea how hard it is to merge harnesses. I know the EVO ECU has an immobilizer that needs disabled.



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Edited by LIV4PSI (09/09/13 08:27 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139723 posted 09/09/13 08:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for, didn't realize there was that much difference in the platforms.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139737 posted 09/09/13 10:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting brunoboy:

96-01 mirage would work too. I was contemplating making mine a Evo 5/6 but I didn't have a parts Evo laying around




I was going to bring this up. At least the engine is going the right way, the current drivetrain sucks, its cheap, lightweight, not rare, and you can use some actual parts from an evo 4-6 if necessary.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139751 posted 09/10/13 12:55 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Brian... Its dboy's

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139758 posted 09/10/13 02:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 91Vr4white:


Now if we are just talking about standard swap stuff (wiring little cutting and welding, BFF) then to me it's a no brainer and i really don't understand all the hate.
I've done many swaps before. 4.6 fox body's swapped Hondas a few from the ground up builds. I haven't really looked at the Evo yet so there may be something obvious I'm over looking. Its just an idea I'm tossing around. But can anyone give me more of a reason then it's just not worth it? My understand is the Evo drive train would handle the power levels I'm looking for with ease. Not to mention better breaks and whatever suspension pieces I can use.




Don't confuse Mitsubishis with silly Hondas or v6 mudstangs, we don't require stupid amount of extra crap just to handle 400whp lol. Short Answer GVR4s = Evo 0s essentially (except we got all base model GVR4s pretty much with the 14b).



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139762 posted 09/10/13 04:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 91Vr4white:

I have a 92 gvr4 with almost 200k on the clock. I found a 2003 Evo 8 that's totaled for cheap tossing around the idea of a full swap. Drive train suspension brakes. Electronics everything. What do you guys think? Ability is not a problem just wondering what I might get myself into. Tried searching but couldn't find any real info.




Engine fits in with the T-Belt at the other side of the engine bay and flows across it in the other direction. Evo 3 was the last with the tbelt at the left side of the bay. All subsequent had the tbelt at the right side.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139763 posted 09/10/13 06:05 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Plus all Evos are 7 bolts, that itself equals differences in certain components and wiring.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1139784 posted 09/10/13 09:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Evo into an 8g galant is a more reasonable swap idea.

You can use the suspension/diff/brakes (sort of) and the ECU (with modification), valve train (but I would not tear the engine apart for just that...).



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