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Started my AWS removal today


Terry Posten
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585447 posted 01/06/08 05:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Took advantage of the 55 deg weather.

My garage floor was sweating like crazy. I really need to seal that this summer.

That is a MESSY job.

I capped the two ports on the fliud tank.

Unscrewed the two fittings just after the front rack and cut the ends off and bought two 5/16" commpression fittings that converted to 1/4 pipe fitting and installed caps.

I unscrewed the rear pipie fittings and let them hang. (they will come off with the pump/rack later)

I cut the two rubber lines at the rear pump and let them hang. (they will also come off with the pump/rack)

Unbolted all the clamps and removed about 50 feet of line. (Did I mention that this is a messy job?)

Started up the car after topping off the fliud level and all is tight .

The next full day of good weather will see the rear diff/axles/rack/cups come out so the 4-bolt stuff can go in.

Now for the $64,000 dollar question:

Is it safe to drive the car using the AWS control arms (stock) without the rack removed?

I will have the arms welded this summer when I redo the whole exhaust mani/WG/O2 stuff, but that might be a while.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585451 posted 01/06/08 05:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I put 20,000 miles on my car with the lines hacked off the rear pump and the rear rack installed without incident.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585453 posted 01/06/08 05:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Crap .

I meant to say:

With the rack removed.

Will the arms move around causing a loose rear feeling?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585458 posted 01/06/08 06:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If I remember correctly, with the rack removed it will be just like an awd DSM and you will just have active toe. But I am sure I will be corrected if wrong.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585467 posted 01/06/08 06:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's fine to drive like that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585469 posted 01/06/08 06:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Does anybody on here still use there AWS? how long did it take you to do that?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585509 posted 01/06/08 07:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Took advantage of the 55 deg weather.






so did I, MR suspension is on. WOOT.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585762 posted 01/07/08 08:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

If I remember correctly, with the rack removed it will be just like an awd DSM and you will just have active toe. But I am sure I will be corrected if wrong.


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I believe you're right about being like a dsm but I think it would be called passive toe.

-Josh


Edited by Josh Weaver (01/07/08 08:34 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585768 posted 01/07/08 08:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey Terry,

Just be prepared for the car to feel a bit more loosey-goosey on crowned highways and rutted roads, in particular. I think having the rear toe-control aws arms still hooked up (but with no control from the rear rack) would contribute to this feeling. Without those arms there it's pretty much just like a passive-toe set up as with a 1G.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585812 posted 01/07/08 10:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's passive toe with the rack off, and it will handle just fine especially if you did not like the way the 4ws felt. Or you can go all out and get Larry Parker's passive toe eliminator kit. But that is only necessary if you are serious about track/autocross work.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585822 posted 01/07/08 10:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My car has always felt like the rear was going to come around on me under WOT anyway.

My hope, once I have the arms welded is to have a solid feel again.

With the new setup, LSD in the rear, I hope to have 500+hp planted to the ground. I need the rear to be solid.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 585842 posted 01/07/08 11:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Terry,
I've done most of the different options at one time or another:
1. remove rack
2. be lazy, leave rack in, remove AWS lines
3. Remove AWS, remove subframe, add bushings.

The last option is the one you want for that tight feeling. I wouldn't worry about welding anything, just put good bushings on the rear control arms and that'll do it.

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