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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977336 posted 03/16/11 06:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I made a thread way back when about fluids, what is everyone running in their tranny and transfer? i know someone used to mix redline mt90 and the shock proof or something. So whats up? I am getting a new tranny soon from a local and I dont wanna mess it up. lol
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977338 posted 03/16/11 06:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Have you tried searching?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977348 posted 03/16/11 07:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^ ive been trying to tell him that for years...

anyways i use a mix of MTL and MT-90 for trans and HEAVY DUTY SHOCKPROOF for Tcase



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977353 posted 03/16/11 07:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I use Neo RHD. Good shit.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977354 posted 03/16/11 07:37 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^ is that for both tcase and trans? mmmm maybe ima try that....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977357 posted 03/16/11 07:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I run straight MT90 in the trans and shockproof in the tcase. No need to mix unless your making alot of torque.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977367 posted 03/16/11 08:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^^^ he said what i was gonna said. many years of abuse happend in my Talon with this combo. To clarify, redline shockproof RED, not blue. blue is lightweight, not as good in my experience. good for the rear diff tooo.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977371 posted 03/16/11 08:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Tre3zy:

^ is that for both tcase and trans? mmmm maybe ima try that....




Pretty sure you could, but it's expensive. I run shockproof in the xfer case and rear end instead.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977373 posted 03/16/11 08:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
At the rate I pull my tranny, I refuse to run NEO RHD anymore. I feel bad about reusing tranny fluid.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977374 posted 03/16/11 08:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting Barnes:

Have you tried searching?



Nah waste of time lol, jk but seriously I don't remember What the title of y thread was because it had nothing to do with fluid, it just happened to go there.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977376 posted 03/16/11 08:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting 4thStroke:

At the rate I pull my tranny, I refuse to run NEO RHD anymore. I feel bad about reusing tranny fluid.




Unless I have some internal tranny catastrophe, I have no problem reusing the stuff. Too expensive not to, IMO. I just make sure to drain it into a clean container.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977378 posted 03/16/11 08:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I agree with you, Mark.

It's just that I could have a catastrophic failure at any given time, and there's a good chunk of money in tranny fluid down the drain (again).

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977380 posted 03/16/11 08:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
But you have to ask the question; would that tranny fluid help prevent said catastrophic failure?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977385 posted 03/16/11 09:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes. But at some point, the best fluid in the world won't keep the power our modified engines produce (some of us a crapload) from blowing the teeth off our gearsets, amirite?



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Edited by turbowop (03/16/11 09:17 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977427 posted 03/17/11 12:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You be surprised on how much torque it take to pure strip teeth off a properly preloaded gearset. Our trans it's the 4th and it will straight shred teeth.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977435 posted 03/17/11 01:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting turbowop:

Yes. But at some point, the best fluid in the world won't keep the power our modified engines produce (some of us a crapload) from blowing the teeth off our gearsets, amirite?




Perhaps Spencer is beyond this threshold?



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I was running the NEO RHD cocktail that English likes when I shredded a fresh 5 speed. The car made 557whp, 455ftlbs on the dyno and it was turned down a couple pounds for street duty. I won't lie, I beat on that tranny, it lasted 6,000 miles or so. I ripped 3rd apart, which then took out the rest of the tranny.

The car is back on pump gas, making 440whp/335ftlbs, so it's a lot safer, but I'm still a bit worried about the longevity if I decide to take it to the track.

I run MT90 now. It's easy to get and is a bit cheaper than NEO. I don't think MTL, MT90, NEO, or anything in the correct weight will save a tranny. It would be such a thin line being toyed with, it'd only be a matter of time until the gearset is fatigued and lets go. Synchromesh won't offer the protection, and heavyweight can send paraffin into the oil ports and may have adverse affects on shifting, although I never did try something this heavy in my tranny. I don't think even the heaviest oil will be the saving grace.

I dunno, some people can get away with abusing an old stock transmission for years, where others are breaking HD gearsets in no time.

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Quoting 1qkfwd:

You be surprised on how much torque it take to pure strip teeth off a properly preloaded gearset. Our trans it's the 4th and it will straight shred teeth.




my tranny is currently stuck in 4th. and wont shift out of it.....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977559 posted 03/17/11 01:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You probably broke a shift fork then, which has more to do with human power and nothing to do with horsepower. Did you slam it into gear or force it too hard a few times?



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maybe...



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Quoting brunoboy:

Quoting 1qkfwd:

You be surprised on how much torque it take to pure strip teeth off a properly preloaded gearset. Our trans it's the 4th and it will straight shred teeth.




my tranny is currently stuck in 4th. and wont shift out of it.....




been there, done that. that was failure #4 of 7 in my old transmission.

i swear, break and fix enough of these things and youll be shep status in no time. 7 major gearbox repairs later, and i sure am confident with these transmissions!

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Quoting brunoboy:

maybe...




did you let a honda guy drive it?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 977651 posted 03/17/11 07:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is the reason im going auto. Havin my trans out 3-4 times in a season and tore apart to check things out and adjust preloads isnt fun. Glad I did everytime since it kept me from breaking stuff. Dont have time for that every season.



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Quoting Tre3zy:

Quoting brunoboy:

maybe...




did you let a honda guy drive it?






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^ i knew it.... cant let now honda kid drive a dsm....



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