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Evo x turbo install now updated with 2.3 stroker build


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182704 posted 08/01/14 10:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Heres something I have been trying to do for some time now. Finally have some home time from work and a nice garage to do all my welding in. I am following this build, justt with some minor changes. click
Using this new cast steel filler rod called ezweld, worked good so far. Will heat the welds red hot and beat on them with a hammer to see if they hold.








Edited by dsmless (03/17/15 08:03 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182706 posted 08/01/14 10:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Sorry about the crappy iphone pics

Heres how it looks with the evo x turbo installed on a spare motor I have wheeling around






Close up of these welds, hope they hold as these guys really praise there product. Still have to fill in the voids and port match it.








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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182707 posted 08/01/14 10:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Heres the EZWeld site click



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182708 posted 08/01/14 10:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Heres how the O2 housing sits, will have to reroute or make a custom one. Goal is to clear everything just like a stock O2/down pipe



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182717 posted 08/01/14 11:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I can appreciate the work you're putting in. Is this just a personal goal for you? Just trying to figure out why you would go through all the hassle to install a turbo that flows less than a big 16G? I'm not knocking you, just curious. Maybe there are benefits to this that I'm missing?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182725 posted 08/02/14 01:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I guess it is just one of those things that only you need to justify, looks like a fun project to take on.



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Edited by BENE38A (08/02/14 01:55 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182730 posted 08/02/14 01:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This is great!! I was(am) going to do the very same thing! The e3 16g we use is old, this manifold opens up the possibilities to modern twin scroll turbos. I've wonder how a twin scroll 20g would perform, keep us posted!



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Edited by desant78 (08/02/14 01:24 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182748 posted 08/02/14 10:09 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah I was waiting for 16 g comment. The only reason im doing this is that the turbo setup was free, 15xxx mile evo x turbo. Im running a 3071r on my gay and the street performance thru the auto is less than stellar. If this works out good then I can get a billet turbo upgrade from turbolab for 800 so still not breaking the bank. And be twinscroll so still great spool.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182749 posted 08/02/14 10:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My good friend has a tuner shop here in town, and often go on final test rides. For street you cant beat the twin scroll response from these evo 8/9/10. I too was looking into a billet 20g upgrade as there 450 bucks from turbolab.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182756 posted 08/02/14 11:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting GSTwithPSI:

I can appreciate the work you're putting in. Is this just a personal goal for you? Just trying to figure out why you would go through all the hassle to install a turbo that flows less than a big 16G? I'm not knocking you, just curious. Maybe there are benefits to this that I'm missing?




I really think it depends on your goals. You are right that this is a lot of work to essentially build a 16g powered car. However if you are willing to write that work/cost off and are happy in the 300-350 horsepower range of say a spirited daily driver then it nets serious benefits. With 'regular' 16g turbos getting both expensive and difficult to come by, this option opens the floodgates to a plethora of low mileage 'evo' turbos discarded by evo owners looking to upgrade and as someone mentioned whilst the flow of these turbos isn't massive, the possibility of twin scroll faster spooling turbos in the 16g power range is appealing to some.

I've got a fair sized collection of 16g, 18g and 20g turbos I picked up at good prices by being patient. But if I wasn't in that position, I think I'd seriously consider going this route for the daily. In addition whilst I wouldn't believe everything you read on the internet, someone on dsmtuners did this a while back and bought an 18g wheel rebuild kit for a twin scroll turbo and said it was the ultimate sub 400 horsepower turbo, power and torque everywhere in every gear. Maybe slightly exaggerated but again if you are happy in that 300-350 horsepower range I think the effort will pay the OP dividends. I'm certainly interested to hear about what he thinks about the finished results.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182757 posted 08/02/14 12:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Heres were I got the idea

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182767 posted 08/02/14 01:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
These bolt to the 6g72 manifolds?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1182838 posted 08/02/14 07:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Negative T_Negro. The 6g72 uses a TD04 flange. Three bolt if I remember correctly.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1183425 posted 08/06/14 09:36 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting dsmless:

Heres were I got the idea

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Paul, you have a unfair advantage to us all being in HK




Yep that's the thread I saw before too. You have an unfair advantage being an airplane mechanic. When are you guys coming back? Next time we NEED to go somewhere more exciting than that airport bar. Damn we were the only ones there apart from the geriatic dance troupe in the park outside.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1183484 posted 08/06/14 03:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No advantage here. Never have time to do anything cool with the car. And dont have cool jdm disposal yards at my town. Yeah will def go someplace better next time, no word when but know for sure it will be soon. We went to beijing from there for the aviation nbaa. Needless to say it was not fun at all. Whens your next trip west?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1189940 posted 09/25/14 11:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Updating this a little. Finally have been home long enough to make some progress on this.




A couple intake and charge piping





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1189941 posted 09/26/14 12:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
As it sits installed, made a heat sheild for the O2 out of some sheet stainless and used the stock 1g manifold heat sheild.




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Edited by dsmless (09/26/14 12:03 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1189942 posted 09/26/14 12:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      




Still need to install radiator, oil change and clean up before I can run it. Hoping its a fun setup for street. Overall I have about 20 hours into this. Not all at once as everytime I get back home I clean and organize my work area.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1189947 posted 09/26/14 04:52 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Another option is to make a half inch or so thick adapter plate between the 4G63 flange and 4B11 flange so you can just bolt the whole manifold on complete. It just means shortening some manifold studs on the head and running two gaskets but it could still work out easier and more reliable than welding and trying to fill in blanks and port match what you have.

Is it just the USDM Evo X turbos that are crap? I was under the impression the regular (ie JDM/Aus/Euro/NZ etc) Evo X turbos were good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1189966 posted 09/26/14 07:46 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I could not say for sure if the x turbos are crap, will find out. I did think about the adapter plate but as it sits theres about 1/2" clearance from turbo to radiator so you would have to run a slimmer radiator. For me thats a no no. I will have to figure something out when I make a tube header and run this 20g billet variant in TS form




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1203038 posted 03/01/15 11:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Bumping this back up.
- starting back on this project, made a custom manifold and will start on a 2.3 stroker build this week








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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1203070 posted 03/02/15 09:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have something similar in the pipeline of the infinite future. Any tips on how you did the collector into the TS flange? I was contemplating equal length runners and I noticed you said Eff it. Any reason why beside ease of construction?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1203090 posted 03/02/15 11:04 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Equal length runners were my first idea but due to the limited radiator to head to hood clearance I chose to run it similar to the factory evo X manifold routing. As it sits Im still using the over the manifold intercooler piping, and dont really want to redue my piping. Maybe if I go water to air intercooling.

The runner I merged two 90 degree elbows and welded that to the evo turbo inlet flange, then joined two straight sections merged at a 13 degree and chopped the end off to match the other turbo inlet. Its a pain to get the cuts right and tacked. You can kinda see in the pictures. Next time Im just going to run individual pipes then merge out into the 1/4-2/3 runners






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1203091 posted 03/02/15 11:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
After welding I had to port the runners to get a smooth transition. And 1/4 were welded to 2/3 on one side due to the room



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1203096 posted 03/02/15 11:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
RRGHHH get this done already, lol. I can't wait to see finished project.



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