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Pivvay
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12283 posted 04/23/03 10:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey everyone,

Here is a list of some things I've removed from the car to lighten it. My goal is 3000 lbs with me in it. Some are easy to do only at the track. Others are more permanant. Total I've saved about 180 lbs with quite a bit more still left to remove. I will weigh the car when I get to the track next. Feel free to make comments or suggestions and remember the numbers were measure on a bathroom scale so they are +/- a little bit.

www.shiftedthinking.com -> Pivvay -> Weightloss
or directly at
http://www.shiftedthinking.com/pivvay/weightloss.html

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number3
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12284 posted 04/23/03 10:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I pulled the ABS block out the other night and it weighed 12-14lbs.

FYI

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ken inn
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12285 posted 04/23/03 10:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
these evo recaros i bought are REALLY light. i bet less than half the regular seat.

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Pivvay
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12286 posted 04/23/03 10:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ah yes i forgot about ABS. I will add that to the to do list.

Ken- The sparco evo's weigh 14 lbs each...you said the recaro evo's are lighter but don't work with 5 point harnesses right? BTW the Sparco evo's are very comfortable for my (31" waist)

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467
mass moment of inertia
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12287 posted 04/23/03 11:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If you switch to the 89 glove box, drivers side kick panel, and console you will lose about 5-10 more pounds.

You can get a few pounds with an aftermarket steering wheel. The stock steering wheel frame is heavy gauge steel. Many new wheels have aluminum frames. The Altezza wheel I got is about 1/2 the weight.
http://home.attbi.com/~karns10/pictures/Altezza1.jpg

Ward

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Hibrn8
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12288 posted 04/23/03 11:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
you say you want to get rid of the bumpers for the track only, just take them off and hack away most of the metal support and put the bumper back on. i couldnt beleive how much those things weighed.

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Vr4in'
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12289 posted 04/23/03 10:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
or...you can try to replace as steel or other metal parts with aluminum.aluminum muffler.i know a kid around here that has a 4dr neon (pos),tries to make it quick but i dont think its going too far,he removed his rear doors and got them replaced with fiberglass or some shit and i bet he took a good amount of weight off doing that.you can also get plexi glass windows,that will reduce alot of weight.good luck

robby

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teet
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12290 posted 04/24/03 11:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
take the mirrors off and feel them. then feel a viatoni mirror...

if you have no rear seat...no need for the rear door beams...this obviously is a permanent safety-loss modification.

when pulling the AC, pull compressor, heat exchanger in the front...AND the one under the dash. Take the plastic part off and you can easily removed the heavy aluminum/brass heat exchanger.

I can make composite hoods and trunk lids, but don't like to do it...I have the molds. I really don't want to figure out how to ship them.

4 bolts don't weigh much more.

john

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Hibrn8
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12291 posted 04/24/03 05:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
quote:
Originally posted by teet:

I can make composite hoods and trunk lids, but don't like to do it...I have the molds. I really don't want to figure out how to ship them.
john

well why didnt you say this a long time ago? lets get it going im interested.

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number3
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12292 posted 04/24/03 05:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
He has.

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Pappy
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12293 posted 04/24/03 07:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
quote:
Originally posted by number3:
He has.

Yup, he has.

I thought about it, but I wouldn't want to ask him to since I'm sure it's a pain.

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kartorium
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12294 posted 04/24/03 08:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I didn't see any hood or trunk stuff but the cage in the galant in his garage is freakin beef. It looks like it could roll 50 times and be ok. Any way, seems like he is very thorough, his hood is probly just as hardcore. Good guy to deal with.

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teet
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12295 posted 04/25/03 12:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
There was a smashed hood(stupid trees) that is OK quality and a damaged trunk lid that was there that is ok quality.

I still don't have it down...it is not super easy to make really nice BIG parts. I really don't want to get into the buisness for sure...but if someone wants one for racing applications...ie if it isn't perfectly straight...and not perfect edges...etc... I can make them.

I also have been thinking about taking the molds down to a local mfg and asking how much they would charge to pop out a few from the molds.

the hood molds have vents. Big vents. I laid them out for my rally car...not copied from anything. it is custom.

the trunk lids are stock, but have the little rubber black molding part "filled out." I didn't want to mess with it. On a black car, you can't tell. On a white car...a piece of electrical tape strung across it would make it look good. Remember...race car...not show car stuff here [Smile]

john

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Mr. Thorsen
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12296 posted 04/28/03 02:05 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Nice of you to write it all down and compile the net change. Most people just start tearing everything out, go to town, and then end up with a big pile of junk. By that time, they say screw it and just write, "I pulled a bunch of junk out." [Wink]

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Pivvay
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12297 posted 04/28/03 07:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks Mr. Thorsen ,

That was the idea behind the page. I'm going to rip a lot more out but it's nice to know what benefit you get for each additional step along the way. I'm going to weigh the whole car soon and pull the bumpers as well. We'll see if the new exhaust is lighter too.

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305VR4
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12298 posted 04/29/03 06:59 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I scraped the asphalt sound-detaning shit out from under my rear seat and on the wheel wells. I also removed a little bit from my trunk. I used (don't remember name of tool) one of those tools you use to remove a section of wood from a doorway to fit in a door hinge. Or you could use a wide flathead screwdriver. Total weight savings: 7.5 lbs. Not bad for a 1 hour diet!

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number3
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12299 posted 04/29/03 07:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
"Wood Chisel"

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WhiteOut
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12300 posted 05/01/03 10:49 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Teet: How much would you charge for 1 hood for a racing application, and would you mind posting up a pic or 2? [Smile] I need to loose weight, if you guys know where to find a carbon fiber hood, or who can make one, that would be great! Thanks in advance for any and all info!

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Micah
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12301 posted 05/02/03 10:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Be patient Matt and see what comes from the guy in Denver who's working on a CF mold with the vents. Hopefully he's more accurate and honest than the kid from Cal. that made the last one though.
Micah.

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teet
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12302 posted 05/02/03 10:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
the fiberglass ones I have been thinking would be 450 plus shipping.

I could make a carbon fiber one...theoretically...but it would be more like 850. true 100% carbon, vacumm bagged with epoxy resin.

http://www.oregonrally.com/gallery/?display=2001%20Wild%20West%2F264_morning_prep.jpg

http://www.oregonrally.com/gallery/?display=2001%20Wild%20West%2F264_parc_expose.jpg

That hood is the same design...but out of a different mold...I made one mold...and one hood and it sucked. I made another mold...and another hood and it sucked. I made ANOTHER mold...and another hood, had an issue with the layup. I will be making a carbon hood in a month or so for the new car.

john

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WhiteOut
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 12303 posted 05/02/03 11:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Where can i find more info on this carbon fiber hood? Any kind of ETA? Thanks again!

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Polish
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 352132 posted 06/22/06 07:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
I have been trying to get my cars weight down since I have had it. I recently acquired a digital scale and weighed everything I had. There are a few things I trashed or never had that I would like to know what they weigh. If someone could help me out there that would be great. I have removed an easy 250lbs so far but I don't know an exact # because of the missing weights. I will update this post with new findings as I get them. I also will include weights of various stock parts. I still have tons more stuff to remove. I have full intentions to have this car under 3K with me in it.

Sunroof 40lbs
2 AC Heat Under dash boxes (far right ones) 13.2lbs The Center Heater core I didnt weight but it was another few lbs, not super heavy.
AC compressor 17.2lbs
B- Shaft 2.4Lbs
Glove Box 8.5lbs
Radio 6Lbs
Tool Kit 1.5lbs
Jack 5Lbs
6 Speakers 8Lbs
Trunk Panels 10Lbs
Sunroof Brackets 4.5Lbs
Antenna 3Lbs
Fog Lights 3Lbs
Rear Belts 5.5Lbs
Washer Fluid Tank 1Lb
Charcoal Canister 3Lbs
Cruise 6.5Lbs
Alarm Horn .5Lb
AC Tension Pulley 2.5Lbs
Bumper Center Section, Various Brackets and Panels, 8Lbs
Visors and Oh Shit handles 3.5Lbs
Under Dash Drivers 3Lbs
Trunk Sound deadening 4lbs
Rear toe hooks 6lbs
Rear bumper support brackets and bolts 2lbs
rear bumper support 40lbs
*some of the* abs wire loom 2lbs
Volk wheels -2lbs each 8lbs

213.3 is the total of just the stuff I could weigh.

Front Bumper Support(most of it) Est 38lbs
AC condenser and metal lines 4lbs Est
Spare tire l7lbs Est
AC Evaporator 1lb Est
Lots of little things 3lbs
ABS unit and ecu 35lbs

311.3 lbs so far. Assuming the estimates are pretty accurate.

------ Misc items weight ------
Rear Bumper foam support 8lbs
Stock 1G O2 housing 5Lbs
14B 16.5Lbs
6Cm housing 10Lbs
1G Ex Mani 11.5Lbs
Cyclone Intake 18.0 Lbs
Stock IC GVR4 3Lbs

Added this from a post I made a while back in this thread.


Edited by Polish (03/31/07 07:05 PM)

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