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Re: The ultimate street galant in the making? Cheekychimp's


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 229914 posted 06/23/05 06:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Jase ... yes it's being fully stripped, seam welded, painted and undersealed ... I'll get pics don't worry. When you say J-spec kit what do you mean exactly.

The idea has always been to keep it looking essentially stock but just new as if it just rolled off the production line but at the same time to be mechanically far superior. Apart from the lights Curtis has done it shouldn't look that different, just clean. But mechanically it will be more Hardcore DSM than J-Spec. The Cyclone has gone, replaced by a Forrester !!!

Police work? ... hell yeah ... but unmarked only ... black and white with a lightbar? ... Paul that's for photoshop only you "fou" !!!

Curtis has prepped the headlights for covert strobes ... he hopefully will be doing the same with the projector fogs. Two weeks ago car thieves got away with THREE brand new EVOLUTION XIs stolen from a Mitsubishi depot. Boy would I loved to have had this monster on the road when that went down !!!

Cop on the take? I wish. If I was maybe I'd still have enough money for the Alpine F1 status speakers I want ... but I got to pay Al and TRE first. I can't believe I'll be driving around with Zapco amps and processors and no tunes until I can save up some more cash ...

... so how DID I afford this? No kids (yet), I don't drink, don't smoke, I'm 37 and have been working for 15 years overseas, I worked my butt off for my degree in university to land this job ... and this is my reward to myself for the sacrifices I have made ...



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 229951 posted 06/23/05 07:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Somebody photo shop a JDM VR4 with his wheels and black and white paint.

Also Paul you have way to many hits on this thread. I'm going to start a thread that gives away free beer or woman or both to de throne you.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 229954 posted 06/23/05 07:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I'm going to reveal something else.



If I didn't like Paul I wouldn't have built this because I breathed in enough phenolic resin dust to kill 12 lab rats. Yes Phenolic resin theres only 2 idiots in the world with a COP like this me and Paul.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 229980 posted 06/23/05 09:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Curtis, why didn't you just use an aluminum or Stainless plate like everyone else? Just curious. Looks great though. I love my COP.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 229982 posted 06/23/05 09:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It will keep the coils cooler but most people wouldn't pay the price for a sheet of phenolic resin or even know where to get it. This was left over stuff I've had for years and I have to be abby normal.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230041 posted 06/24/05 01:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Faustus,
There has been a lot of controversy about COP setups before ... well with the 4G63 engine at least ... coil failure rate seems to vary, but there seems to be very little controversy over the main cause ... EXCESSIVE HEAT !!!

Under hood temperatures WILL NOT just go away because of this stuff, we both know that and in my case at least, keeping them down will require the combined efforts of a large Koyo radiator running Evans NPG+, ceramic coated header pipes, the JDM vents and a 50/50 alcohol/water mix injected right after the turbo.

I DO NOT think there can be much doubt however that the heat transmitted to the coils through this stuff will be SIGNIFICANTLY less than the heat transferred through any other metal.

Maybe the COOL factor itself will have some cooling effect ...



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!


Edited by cheekychimp (06/24/05 01:17 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230072 posted 06/24/05 07:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Maybe the COOL factor itself will have some cooling effect ...




If it did, you wouldn't need the vents and alcy injection.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230093 posted 06/24/05 08:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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I breathed in enough phenolic resin dust to kill 12 lab rats. Yes Phenolic resin theres only 2 idiots in the world with a COP like this me and Paul.




I hear ya on this. I made 2 spacers out of this shit and decided I'm not making any more. This stuff dusts like no tomorrow and it's so bad for you. Water jet cut from now on...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230137 posted 06/24/05 11:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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... so how DID I afford this? No kids (yet), I don't drink, don't smoke, I'm 37 and have been working for 15 years overseas, I worked my butt off for my degree in university to land this job ... and this is my reward to myself for the sacrifices I have made ...




You go girl!, uh, ...I mean guy!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230147 posted 06/24/05 11:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Faustus,
There has been a lot of controversy about COP setups before ... well with the 4G63 engine at least ... coil failure rate seems to vary, but there seems to be very little controversy over the main cause ... EXCESSIVE HEAT !!!




I spend some time on the FSAE forums and there was mention of "coil dwell" being a factor in coil life. As near as I can tell if the coil dwell (which I believe is somehow related to the charging time) is not correct the coils can barbecue themselves due to internal heat buildup.

The "coil dwell" is a settable parameter on a lot of standalones -- so I imagine it could be a factor when using mix & match coils from different cars.

Cheers, Ted



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230216 posted 06/24/05 03:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ted,
I think there is probably something in that as well. In fact I posted about coil dwell not so long ago. I'm not sure how many standalones allow you to set coil dwell but I know for sure the AEM EMS does. Certainly guys on the AEM forums have said that setting the coil dwell on the Chrysler coils to the equivalent dwell of the Dodge VIPER produced significantly better results which leads me to believe that what you posted above is also very true. However a lot of guys using COP use it in conjunction with a capacitor discharge ignition module like the AEM or MSD units. Theoretically this should eradicate any problems with charging time since the charge should then be available instantaneously. That said, one of the COP 'gurus' on the AEM forums stated that he got better results programming the VIPER coil dwell into the EMS and using the factory ignitor than he did using an MSD, AEM or any other ignition module, which makes you think doesn't it?



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!


Edited by cheekychimp (06/24/05 03:55 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230228 posted 06/24/05 04:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Why use COP? I have seen many cars make big power without it. Is there some advantage to it? It just seems like a pain in the ass.


Edited by 14bCrazy (06/24/05 04:16 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230240 posted 06/24/05 04:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
You would have to drive a car without and then with it to feel the differance. Sometimes its not about top end HP but driveability. My midrange and off idle is way better and when downshifting to pass is instantanious. Plus the top end never breaks up. This is no different than 5 years ago people saying the 20G was gods gift to DSM speed then someone finally bolted on a Garrett then a Holset.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230247 posted 06/24/05 05:10 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
A 20g is God's gift to DSMers...



Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230250 posted 06/24/05 05:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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I'm sure for the price the quality would have been awesome but I've heard a lot of issues with Mag Rims on anything other than perfect asphalt and we don't get much of that in Hong Kong. One thing I have learnt about going fast on the roads here is that you need ground clearance, shocks with plenty of travel and strong rims. With these mods alone you can beat just about any car of equivalent performance to your own because the race shocked, lowered and fancy japanese rim brigade brake, slow down and go over every speed hump, pothole, ramp and crack in the pavement at obscenely slow speeds. If you can just keep going you can close them down no trouble.




Are you saying that your a street racer!? (OFF time off of course), Paul?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230263 posted 06/24/05 05:44 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No, of course not, they just all get in my way ...



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230291 posted 06/24/05 07:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
3000 hits ... wtf !!!



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230304 posted 06/24/05 08:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Maybe I'll hop on over to Hong Kong and drive it to see for myself. How much longer do I have to wait officer?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230333 posted 06/25/05 02:34 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Jase ... yes it's being fully stripped, seam welded, painted and undersealed ... I'll get pics don't worry. When you say J-spec kit what do you mean exactly.




Sorry mate..

I mean the stock J-spec front and rear bar? (What probably came on your car actually..)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230351 posted 06/25/05 07:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Jase,
The rear bar/bumper is staying but I am trying to source an RS Bumper for the front, every little extra cooling right?

Paul.



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230728 posted 06/26/05 11:09 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Definitely - mine would have a RS front bumper and vented bonnet/hood if I could afford one.

All the best with it mate.. keep us informed

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 230779 posted 06/27/05 08:36 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
A few more pics ... nothing too exciting though ... I need to get Al to post pics of the VGA screen and mini-itx computer with solid state drive !!!

This is the Hotbits rally suspension ...



And this is VR6 Eater's shift boot which is gonna look so cool with the Delrin Shifter



Paul



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 231069 posted 06/28/05 04:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
So how do you revitalize an old switch panel like this with some new switches ...


First of all, you need to cut those useless coin holders out and put something more functional in them ...



Then a little bit of work with a stanley knife and a drill and voila ...




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 231070 posted 06/28/05 04:19 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Installed for RHD Galant ...






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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 231142 posted 06/28/05 08:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Looks good Paul! I did the same thing for a Dejontool MBC I had, it had a switch going to a solenoid that would turn the MBC on or off, it gives a very clean look doing it like that. People didn't even notice it (mine were black).



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