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Re: The ultimate street galant in the making? Cheekychimp's


curtis Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 484571 posted 05/26/07 08:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
more pictures.....now....



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 484576 posted 05/26/07 09:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey Paul, it's awesome to see you're finally making some progress putting parts on the car after all this time! I bet it feels good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 487103 posted 06/01/07 10:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
With all the crap you are putting on that thing, it is great you got the 4 ton floor jack.



Not quite 1400whp.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 487349 posted 06/02/07 10:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oi, Flanagan!

The only reason Craftsman made those was because of the USDM VR4 ... Cruise Control, Sun Roof, Electric Seatbelts, 70 lb bumper supports fore AND aft, not to mention all the Emissions rubbish!



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 487493 posted 06/03/07 02:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      



Paul's getting cocky ...he must have been into the red wine storehouse.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 487794 posted 06/04/07 10:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Oi, Flanagan!

The only reason Craftsman made those was because of the USDM VR4 ... Cruise Control, Sun Roof, Electric Seatbelts, 70 lb bumper supports fore AND aft, not to mention all the Emissions rubbish!




aside from the sunroof, it's still a retardedly heavy car.

mine is super light with no drivetrain though.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 498115 posted 06/27/07 05:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Any updates Paul?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 498861 posted 06/29/07 11:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
He must be on one looooong honeymoon.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 499001 posted 06/29/07 05:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I want to see the honeymoon video



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 507895 posted 07/19/07 12:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Finally got to the shop today. Didn't make loads of progress but damn it feels good to be back at the car again. First off I posted before about the problems I had with the mounts and bushings for the larger diameter front sway bar. I was so sick of trying to hack it before going back to the UK I had Ken drop it off at the machine shop for this to be done:



I was going to put this on today but I have just had some new rally spec sub frame bushings come in courtesy of RayH and I want to put those on. (Ray I spoke to Robert today and I'm going to pick the bushings up and hopefully get them pressed in by next Friday)

The front sway bar has come out so well I think eventually I will get the rear done as well, but I can't bring myself to pull the rear again right now. I'm going to get the car running and then take it up to Ken's, put it on the lift and drop the rear out when I have a couple of days. I'll fit the rear bushings and get the rear sway-bar mounts at the same time.

We fitted a couple of bits back into the engine bay and then took some measurements for some new brake lines. I left after that to go and see someone about my troublesome alarm on the Type R. Got the driver's door lock cracked and he's going to figure out the remote start, windows and the valet take over switch next Friday. Whilst I was doing that, my man put the wiring loom that we spent that morning cleaning up back in with the nice fuse box.



It is actually starting to look like an engine bay instead of a shell.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 507942 posted 07/19/07 01:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Glad to see you're making more progress

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508230 posted 07/20/07 01:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Love the fuse box cover. Thats 100% JDM. Got the one you can read in your pile of stuff. Yes folks we have stuff here I need to finish and ship..



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508245 posted 07/20/07 04:47 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Why are you doing all this work on the car, but you're still using an Air flow meter?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508292 posted 07/20/07 08:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Because it's still a streetcar.

I had a lot of discussions with guys at the beginning and the consensus was that the Air Flow meter really isn't THAT much of a restriction until you start to get to very high power levels which I'm not aiming for.

In fact I don't honestly believe the Air Flow meter is a restriction per se, it flows more than enough air, it is just that beyond a certain airflow it can't measure the airflow fast enough to make it accurate leading to poor air/fuel ratios.

I doubt I'll get past the overrun point and even if I do I'm going to be running DSMLink which clamps the MAF signal just before the overrun point and switches over to a crude SD setup at WOT only.

For a street car I think it's the perfect system. It gives you better airflow than a MAF at WOT whilst maintaining the good driveability of the MAF at lower speeds.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508329 posted 07/20/07 09:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What about map sensor stuff though? Dont you think AEM would give you more flexability?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508333 posted 07/20/07 09:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
With a proper tune, a MAP sensor will outperform an AFM in every way.
Especially with regards to Air Temp correction.

I don't understand why you're using DSMlink, it's such an outdated system and hasn't been developed in over 2 years.

There is such a huge range of standalone ECU's available and they are all fairly cheap.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508334 posted 07/20/07 09:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Probably yes and I'm not against the possibility of doing that in the future, but there is no support for AEM over here like you have in the States. I know they have great online forums and the guys over on that forum are pretty much as cool as you guys here but if I have a serious problem, is one of you going to jump on a plane to come help me? I'm just too far away.

The DSMLink on the other hand was bench tested with a JDM single board EPROM ECU by the DSMLink guys, and apart from a few idiosyncracies that might be an issue if I tried to run a Cyclone direct from the ECU and a reputed difference with the fuel pump relay wiring, it does work. That's a load off my mind because it means the car should just go together and fire up even if the tune isn't spot on out of the box.

I'm not disputing the fact that the AEM 'can' be setup to give excellent driveability but I think I might be expecting a bit too much if I thought I could set it up perfectly right now. I think that when I find the DSMLink to be too restrictive and I feel I need more control, it will be a pretty good indication that I've learned enough and moved on to the point where I should be looking at an AEM or AUTRONIC or whatever! I do envy the target A/F ratio that AEM users have though and the ridiculous MPG that Tom Noonen could get with it!!

A MAP sensor is also recommended for the DSMLink and I'll be fitting one!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508378 posted 07/20/07 10:53 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

With a proper tune, a MAP sensor will outperform an AFM in every way.
Especially with regards to Air Temp correction.

I don't understand why you're using DSMlink, it's such an outdated system and hasn't been developed in over 2 years.

There is such a huge range of standalone ECU's available and they are all fairly cheap.




I'm not arguing either, but I find it rather amusing that when I first came on the board and was thinking about using an AEM, people were telling me that it was "too much" for me, and that I should consider using DSMLink. Then I buy DSMLink and people ask me why I'm not using AEM.

I am pretty honest and personally I just don't think I have the ability to tune an AEM myself.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508646 posted 07/20/07 11:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The reason everyone here says that is because America is so far behind in ECU technology it's not funny.


Why are you tuning it yourself?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508661 posted 07/21/07 12:10 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Because the costs of having someone tune it here are silly and I'd rather learn than have to pay someone to do it from here on in.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508664 posted 07/21/07 12:20 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Sorry to be such a newb ,but what kind of air box is that me wants.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508686 posted 07/21/07 02:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's an old school ARC airbox for an EVO III.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508694 posted 07/21/07 04:02 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Because the costs of having someone tune it here are silly and I'd rather learn than have to pay someone to do it from here on in.



That could become a very expensive learning exercise.. lol

Do you have a dyno?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508695 posted 07/21/07 04:45 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Lol ...

No, I don't but from what I have 'gleaned' through my research on here is that the dyno is the 'last' critical stage for adding timing. Set up of dead time, fuel trims, fuel and airflow should be possible on the road. Whilst I am obviously a novice and really can't argue this either way, there seem to be quite a few who believe that real world tuning on the road under various driving and road conditions is the only way to go but that the exception to this is the final tweaking of the ignition timing. Your thoughts?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 508730 posted 07/21/07 09:58 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
It's hard to tune for full power on the street, well, it is over here anyway, speed limits on the road, traffic and just general obstacles don't really allow you to do WOT tunes in 4th gear.

I think you should tune it on the dyno, then tune it on the street just to clean up the tune. But then again, I have no idea about tuning, and I'd rather pay someone else to do a good job of it rather than try and save a few hundred dollars, only to have to rebuild the engine because my tune blew up my motor.

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