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Re: The ultimate street galant in the making? Cheekychimp's


cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 385137 posted 09/22/06 12:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, finally got back down to the shop yesterday and pulled the spare fuel tank I picked up from Ken (Yiuwa's friend and Hong Kong resident VR4 expert). We used POR-15 marine clean and metal ready to clean out of the inside of the tank and then prepped and painted the whole exterior with POR-15 (including the filler neck which was in my opinion by far the most important part to do). Every Mitsu I have had has had water in the fuel at some point due to that filler neck rusting through and getting holes in it.

Tried to fit Al's stainless steel fuel pump housing ... it doesn't fit ... Al and I deliberated for a long time over the length of housing to use and picked the one to fit the existing tank, then this other tank turned up in almost perfect condition but it is shallower Nevermind, it's an easy fix, we'll just rebend the fuel pump support at the right length, drill and tap a hole and cut off the extra.

We had some paint left over so we also did some of the underbody supports for the skid plate and the dump tube. I don't think the POR-15 will stand up to the heat but given that it is so tough, I thought I'd give it a go for the hell of it. We'll be doing the underbody next week.

Now I just need to get a hold of Andre!!!

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SGTdave
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 385510 posted 09/23/06 01:42 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
right on, progress is a good thing.

time for some 10hour days my boy.
take a lesson from my title.

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cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386526 posted 09/26/06 10:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
10 hour days! Dude I wish. I work more 17 hour shifts than I do 8 hour ones

Well, POR-15 has become my best friend, partly because I use it to paint everything and partly because my hands and arms are tattoed with it. It takes roughly six days to get off and I think that's only when you shed the top layers of skin and new stuff grows underneath.

We found some rust today (I knew it was too good to be true) but not too much. I pulled both bumpers and the RS intercooler, fenders doglegs and side skirts and painted the whole lower chassis, skid plate and the welded seams with the POR-15. It comes out pretty good. The bumper supports were perfect, no rust at all!

Still a lot to do though. Going back on Friday. We need to start dropping the stuff off the underside of the car and then weld on sub-frame connectors. Once that's done and the POR-15 has been sprayed underneath I'll be officially rebuilding.



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386541 posted 09/26/06 10:54 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Paul, are you using Chassis Coat Black for your underbody POR-15ing? The other option would be regular black color POR-15, but the chassis paint would seem to be a better option due to it's thickness and texture. Are you painting the suspenion components as well?

Also, are you going through the full procedure when you put it on (Surface rust removal -> Marine Clean -> Metal Ready -> Por-15)? Also, about how much of each of those products have you estimated the whole job will take?

Thanks in advance! This is one of my several winter projects I'll undertake once I have the rear subframe pulled.

-Jim B.
1432/2000
167k

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cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386551 posted 09/26/06 11:14 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Paul, are you using Chassis Coat Black for your underbody POR-15ing? The other option would be regular black color POR-15, but the chassis paint would seem to be a better option due to it's thickness and texture. Are you painting the suspenion components as well?

Also, are you going through the full procedure when you put it on (Surface rust removal -> Marine Clean -> Metal Ready -> Por-15)? Also, about how much of each of those products have you estimated the whole job will take?




Okay, first off I ordered 8 quarts of the standard black POR-15 and 2 quarts of chassis coat, 4 quarts each of the marine clean and solvent and 8 quarts of metal ready. I estimated this was sufficient for 2 cars as Yiuwa is hoping to do this as well. When I'm done I'll tell you what I have done and how much I used.

So far I have only used the standard POR-15, not the chassis coat. One thing I noticed from reading the literature was that the chassis coat wasn't recommended as a rust preventative but rather as a top coat since the standard POR-15 is not UV resistant. I therefore intend to do everything with the POR-15 first and then use chassis coat on areas that are exposed to sunlight (engine bay) or are likely to get a lot of abuse (skid plate). In order to keep the car quiet, I might also do a light coat of rubber underbody coating but I'm undecided on that at the moment.

As for doing the "full procedure", I did it on the fuel tank but on the chassis today we just attacked the surface with a wire brush and cleaned it down. The whole process seems to help if areas are badly rusted or oily but it doesn't seem to offer any advantage on smooth unrusted surfaces. I think the marine clean will be necessary on the underbody to remove oil.

Please use gloves with marine clean. It will strip your skin!



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!


Edited by cheekychimp (09/26/06 03:59 PM)

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turboflanagan
I would give myself something respectable.
478/1000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386657 posted 09/26/06 02:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
With all the crap going on this poor car, you are going to need every performance piece you can find just so you can cruise the 1/4 at something close to stock speeds.

Oh wait, that will be the towtruck's job anyhow. My bad.





Not quite 1400whp.

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cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386663 posted 09/26/06 03:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
To be honest, I figure I'm going to break even ...

ABS will be pulled, 4WS will be pulled, JDM car without your 70 lbs front and rear bumper supports, carbon fibre hood and trunk, no sunroof, carbon clutch, aluminium driveshaft ...

I have a pretty good head start



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386664 posted 09/26/06 03:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Oh yeah and where's my 'new' lightweight carpet?



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Polish
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386665 posted 09/26/06 03:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
POR15 doesn't stand up to exhaust heat very well. I was applying some on the bottom of my car and painted a little on a small rusty spot on my cat back under the axles. It is now a much different color and doesn't look like it will last to much longer. It's still there but is obviously affected by the heat.



My car site
Old GVR4 #1186/2000

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cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386668 posted 09/26/06 03:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, I don't hold out much hope to be honest. I doubt that the company would offer high temp paints if their POR-15 flagship product stood up to heat okay. My header is ceramic coated, I may get the downpipe coated as well. I'll hold out on the turbo housing and external dump tube until I've tried them out and decided if they are staying. If they are, I'll let the heat strip the paint off and get them ceramic coated later.

I'm tired of waiting to be honest and don't want anymore hold ups. At this point, I just want to get the car back together again.



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Polish
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386669 posted 09/26/06 03:41 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've been there, just don't let yourself get in a rush. I did and now I have to re-do some stuff I did poorly.



My car site
Old GVR4 #1186/2000

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386779 posted 09/26/06 08:29 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

POR15 doesn't stand up to exhaust heat very well.




This might work.

Thanks for all the answers, Paul. I didn't realize Chassis Coat wasn't really a rust preventative. I'll likely go the same route as you, but I'm guessing I'll have a lot more rust to remove!

-Jim B.
1432/2000
167k

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turboflanagan
I would give myself something respectable.
478/1000


Galant VR-4 org Post #: 386960 posted 09/27/06 08:33 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Oh yeah and where's my 'new' lightweight carpet?




Hehehe, yours will be infused with lead... and yes, you will be responsible for the shipping.



Not quite 1400whp.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 388091 posted 09/29/06 09:48 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I just have to say... pages 16 and 17 FTW!!!1



I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
-mitsuturbo

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cheekychimp Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 388094 posted 09/29/06 09:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
... very funny Steve!



Getting old sucks ... but it sure beats the alternative !!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 388136 posted 09/29/06 10:57 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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I just have to say... pages 16 and 17 FTW!!!1




+1!!!11one



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 388138 posted 09/29/06 11:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Fiddy-pence!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 391600 posted 10/08/06 04:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, the engine is out together with the entire front axle/cross member assembly. We stripped the engine bay of pretty much everything, just a couple of cables, parts of the wiring harness and pipes that we couldn't be bothered to pull in from the cabin. Then we did a bit of welding to strengthen things up. Nothing fancy and nothing that would frighten the likes of Andre or Al but it should get the job done and most of it will be hidden under the fenders anyway.

The POR-15 is getting real old now. We went over everything with chassis coat, which means I painted the entire engine bay, by hand, TWICE on Saturday. Next day off that I get we have to pull the car to the other side of the shop and do the passenger side of the car (Hong Kong real estate prices make for small workshops - a lot of you guys have private garages that are bigger, I kid you not!) Then the underneath of the car has to be painted. It's slow work but I am finally making some progress.

We have deleted the ABS. The big computer/distribution block in 'my' passenger fender well has left a big space that looks like it will be perfect for an external oil cooler mounted horizontally with a fan underneath fed with air through the right hand vent on the hood.



It may also fit the accumulator and remote oil filter if I'm lucky. We are looking at putting an ARC style airbox in the other corner now that the battery has gone, fed from the other vent.

We also tried to test fit the intercooler which has me completely baffled. The mounting tabs on the cooler don't match anything on the JDM chassis (not a big deal as I intend to use an L-shaped angle iron support to mount and protect the intercooler anyway). I think however I'll need to get the new engine in and work out the mounting from there together with the pipe routing and JDM bumper cover to make sure I trim the chassis in the right places.

On a final note, I have some carbon fibre JDM style vents. They will be somewhat obsolete on John's hood above but at the same time I think the JDM vents make for an aggressive look. So I'm seriously considering fitting the vents further back on the rear of the hood. My friend put his vents there on the hood of his Supra powered Aristo and they look really good. I don't want water dripping onto the engine there during the rain though, so however ricer it may be, I think I'll just drill and surface mount them without cutting any holes in the hood underneath.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406294 posted 11/13/06 06:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Progress report from Tenn.



The two boxes above are to hold the stuff thats in my office thats HK bound. I hope everything will fit in the two. Plus theres body panels, headliner, bumper and cover lights. ETC. ETC.

I'm hoping to get most shipped off in the next week or so.



92 GVR4 0475/1000
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Ass, Gas or Milkbones. Nobody rides for free" Jon AKA Toybreaker

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406521 posted 11/14/06 12:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
OT: those are nice looking boxes, who makes 'em and where did you get 'em?



Ryan Hertz

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406570 posted 11/14/06 01:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Says 'smartbin' on them.



-Jeff
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406572 posted 11/14/06 01:53 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Curtis - 1 small package from me should be headed to you this week!



1992 Galant VR-4. 205/1000. Nile Black. Sunroof.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406573 posted 11/14/06 01:54 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quote:

Says 'smartbin' on them.



sams club smart bin



1929/2000 *SOLD*

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curtis Galant VR4.org Moderator
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406651 posted 11/14/06 05:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got them in the automotive section at Walmart they had to get one from the back. The price was right at 100 for both with tax. Locking lid and built like a vault. Considering big rubbermaid ones are almost 30 and there weak compaired to these. Pisses me off that sams had them cheaper.



92 GVR4 0475/1000
Greenhouse Effect Green
Exceeds Mechanical Limits
"Put the dawg to work.
Ass, Gas or Milkbones. Nobody rides for free" Jon AKA Toybreaker


Edited by curtis (11/14/06 05:47 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 406900 posted 11/15/06 09:28 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Here's what they look like now. Its going to take two more plus a shipping crate for the headliner, body panels and bumper.






As I told Paul in my PM I wonder if HK has a condition on importing peanuts.



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