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Grrr! Broken 2 prong connecter on top of thermostat assembly


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732147 posted 12/08/08 04:30 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I noticed that the plastic connector [2 prong] on top of the thermostat assembly has a broken wire, and the other wire is hanging on by a couple of threads,






I managed to pull the pins from the connector, and wanted to know where I could get NEW pin connectors and start over with new pins and fresh wire.......



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732168 posted 12/08/08 04:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I ended up using two small, insulated spade connectors (that fit snug on the terminals) and butt-splicing onto the factory connector, until I get a replacement. Just make note which wire goes to which terminal, to not mix them up (may not matter on this, but still)...Not the best way (I want to get an oem replacement and eliminate the butt splices], but works for now...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732171 posted 12/08/08 05:00 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks JNR.. Imight go that route too!!

But I'm sure someone has sourced some replacement connectors!!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732175 posted 12/08/08 05:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No doubt.

Well, your plastic housing is in good shape (I think mine was cracked, iirc), so if you're tricky, you could undo the factory crimp on those spades and put in the wire (oem, if you have enough slack) and re-crimp...as you're probably aware, since you took them out, they have little barbs (or maybe it's those black, notched 'sleeves' in this case) that snap into place...This is the way I would've done it, if my housing was alright...

Another option is to look at an AMP catalog (or similar), as most oem's use various styles like that, although many of them are proprietary, for obvious reasons...


Edited by JNR (12/08/08 05:08 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732181 posted 12/08/08 05:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah, there was a plastic locking lip that just needed to be pressed downwards while I pulled on the wire and the connector[s] slid out of the plastic housing!!

I'll check online under "mini spade" conntectors.


Edited by Mr_HYDE (12/08/08 05:16 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732189 posted 12/08/08 05:20 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Iceman may be able to help you out. He has a source for certain pins for making adapters. Send him a PM.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732198 posted 12/08/08 05:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Good call!!

I'll pm him

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732200 posted 12/08/08 05:48 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If it uses the same pins as the ECU plugs, I can send you several of those.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732210 posted 12/08/08 05:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Does your AC work? If it doesn't then you don't need that anyway. In fact, you might not need it anyway. I think its just to turn the AC off under an overheat condition. I could be wrong but I think that's what its for. You can carefully disassemble the spades and solder new wires to them. I rebuilt my CAS plug like that.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732308 posted 12/08/08 09:34 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
^^ +1 to John, that is only relevant to the A/C ( cuts off A/C clutch if coolant is overheating ).
No A/C = no need.



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Edited by ktmrider (12/08/08 09:34 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732393 posted 12/08/08 11:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I'm hoping he does still have A/C, and it still works. He might actually be one of the few that needs that connection to work.

I did the same fix (Little spade connectors/soldered) before I yanked out the A/C parts.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732410 posted 12/09/08 12:06 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well, my A/C still blows cold and want to keep it that way and I hate mickey mouse stuff; especially electrical, so I would love to hear if somebody can get the oem housing and connectors...The second option is to cut a pigtail off another harness, but rather not even do that, unless I can get a long length to play with...

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732451 posted 12/09/08 07:15 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting VRausch4:

I'm hoping he does still have A/C, and it still works. He might actually be one of the few that needs that connection to work.

I did the same fix (Little spade connectors/soldered) before I yanked out the A/C parts.




It gets to be about 135 degrees out here at the height of the summer. So yes, I'll definitley need it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732452 posted 12/09/08 07:17 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting CP:

If it uses the same pins as the ECU plugs, I can send you several of those.




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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732456 posted 12/09/08 07:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I also did the insulated spade connector trick on some of mine, worked perfect for me.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732459 posted 12/09/08 08:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
A Mitsubishi dealer tech friend of mine told me that Mitsu dealers have available a replacement kit that has all of the female connectors with wire pigtails, and they can get you whichever one they need with some help from the friendly parts counter guy...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732536 posted 12/09/08 12:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have a few of the connector bodies that will work for that plug, but no pins. I resoldered mine onto the original pins when I fixed it.

If someone knows where to get those pins, that would be great. IIRC, I did not have the right size in my selection.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732559 posted 12/09/08 01:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
go to the junk yard and look for any hyundai with the 2.0 engine u will get a connector that is a direct fit.it is in the same position as the gvr4.I located one on a 1997 model sonata 2.0 i also took the valve cover.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732576 posted 12/09/08 01:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting iceman69510:

If someone knows where to get those pins, that would be great. IIRC, I did not have the right size in my selection.




Are they the same size/type of lins that are in the plugs that connect to the ECU? If so I've offered to send him several. We just need to verify that the ECU pins will work for this application.



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Quoting dmj:

go to the junk yard and look for any hyundai with the 2.0 engine u will get a connector that is a direct fit.it is in the same position as the gvr4.I located one on a 1997 model sonata 2.0 i also took the valve cover.


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 732695 posted 12/09/08 05:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
AFAIK it only affects the AC by turning it off during an overheat condition, I'm sure you will be aware of an impending overheat before the stupid sensor is. In other words, you should be fine without it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 733252 posted 12/10/08 05:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do you still want the pins?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 733602 posted 12/11/08 12:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes I do!!!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 884514 posted 03/24/10 04:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Edit: I found some good info on refurbing your electrical connectors from this rx7 forum.

Here edit again: rx7 forum is cockblocking. Do a search on google.

Terminal removal tool: Here

And some pigtails and other connectors that may be handy. Here Part # CONN-75729 looks pretty close to our thermostat temp sensor plug who wants to order one and give it a try?


Edited by 3of1000 (04/01/10 05:40 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 884642 posted 03/25/10 01:18 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Hey CP, I was looking for ecu pins myself. Did you find a supplier for them? The only place I could find wanted me to buy several thousand of them.

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