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I Know...another Oil Question


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196928 posted 12/19/14 12:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey guys, I've always used Mobil 1 10w30 since I lived in an area that actually hosted winter. Now that I'm in the bay area can I run 5W30 or is there a preferred weight? Car will not see much DD, it will primarily be used for fun motoring and track days. Just looking for personal preferences on similar applications.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196933 posted 12/19/14 01:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
im up in tahoe and i run rotella t6 15w40 all year long, but the car doesnt get out on the roadto often in the winter.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196934 posted 12/19/14 01:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196938 posted 12/19/14 01:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Interesting read.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196940 posted 12/19/14 01:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I ran Mobil 1 15w50 for the first probably 20k of this engine. Loved it. Towards the end though, it seemed like it was getting thinner and thinner out of the bottle and causing more and more little drips. I swapped to Valvoline VR1 20w50 for the last 5k or so, and have been as happy as I was with M1 in the beginning. Apparently they changed their formulations a couple years ago, and most people have noticed.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196941 posted 12/19/14 01:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've heard good things about the VR1. I run Royal Purple in the spec.B and like that just fine. I just wanted to see what the board users were using on their cars.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196943 posted 12/19/14 02:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I run the vr1 20w50... she cranks a little slow in the winter and the lifters arnt happy (new lifters in mail).



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196949 posted 12/19/14 04:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting transparentdsm:

im up in tahoe and i run rotella t6 15w40 all year long, but the car doesnt get out on the roadto often in the winter.


This is what most of the folks I consider 4G63T smart suggest ( at least the weight ). Rotella T6 has lots of great oil analysis data by users to sway me to their product(s) and the lower price is a total bonus.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196953 posted 12/19/14 04:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I love it, car loves it and for the price I change it whenever it starts to change color.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196959 posted 12/19/14 05:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I run the basic rotella. I haven't even bothered with T6. It is better, but still good.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1196962 posted 12/19/14 05:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting prove_it:

I run the basic rotella. I haven't even bothered with T6. It is better, but still good.


Run both too, seemed like I got less coking/burn-off with the T6 ( less refill of oil between changes by like 1/2 qt ).



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197300 posted 12/25/14 02:49 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Brad penn 20-w50 here. Have used vr1 in the past as well, good oil, I like BP better.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197312 posted 12/25/14 11:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting turbohf:

I run the vr1 20w50... she cranks a little slow in the winter and the lifters arnt happy (new lifters in mail).




how cold are your winters? i try to run vr1 in the warm times, but once temperature starts hitting 40's, I switch to Rotella T6. It just takes too long to warm up the motor w the 20w50, dont have the patience for that.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197313 posted 12/25/14 11:39 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting prove_it:

I run the basic rotella. I haven't even bothered with T6. It is better, but still good.




I love the 15w40 Rotella, very good for the money in my opinion. I only use the T6 for wintertime.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197314 posted 12/25/14 12:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I would stay as thick as possible with oil. 10 or 15w40 being minimum if the car will see a lot of RPM. I think it was Kiggly who did testing on the stock pump, the thinner oils don't support the pump gears as well and it was shortening the lift of the oil pump and bearings. It wasn't even a HP thing. bobistheoilguy.com is actually a really good factual forum for oils. There are a bunch of back to back and group testing for all kinds of petroleum products. I chose VR1 over the Brad Penn from some test info over there.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197326 posted 12/25/14 05:25 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
rotella T6 lifter stay quiet and motor seems to like it, I use it year round.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197329 posted 12/25/14 06:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Don't use 20W-50 oil in freezing weather (below 32*F) and if you run E85, don't use Brad Penn. 10W-30 is actually a good all weather oil weight. I use 10W-40 in the winter and 20W-50 elsewhere. There's no need to run 5W-30 in Cali.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197371 posted 12/26/14 02:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I ran 15w50 Mobil 1 and now VR1 20w50 all year in PA and it regularly gets below freezing all winter. No issues, pressure comes up quickly and has been fine for 26+ thousand miles on this engine. I guess I don't abide by the rules.

Not saying you can't run 10w30 or it's a bad idea, just running a 20w isn't necessarily bad either, especially in a slightly looser than factory engine build. Can't comment on the E85 suggestion though.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197405 posted 12/26/14 07:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Rotella T6 in my evo, and i've used it in various cars over the years. 3k mi intervals in the evo, which sees 90% street/crusing. Considering the UOAs that come back on it, it's really tough to beat at that price point.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197416 posted 12/27/14 12:32 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting BpuVR4:

Quoting turbohf:

I run the vr1 20w50... she cranks a little slow in the winter and the lifters arnt happy (new lifters in mail).




how cold are your winters? i try to run vr1 in the warm times, but once temperature starts hitting 40's, I switch to Rotella T6. It just takes too long to warm up the motor w the 20w50, dont have the patience for that.




seem to get a 10F day or two out the year. but the galant is parked outside and frozen over at that point. but im pretty sure i have lit her off on a 19F day. plenty of 25-30F days. it does take a while to warm up, and like i said, lifters seem pissed off forsure.

i usually have 2-3 cars. and one will always be in garage, so it will be lest cold and not frosted over. plus im usually late, so that has won in the past.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197428 posted 12/27/14 09:31 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
If your using E85 in the winter, you must run a thinner oil. Otherwise you'll kill your battery trying to start the car. E85 does not like the cold. I honestly don't miss trying to start that thing in sub 20* temps.

I was at the point of using a 900cca battery with 5w-30 oil. Then had to sit in the car to warm it up cause until water temp was at least 130 it would die.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197488 posted 12/28/14 09:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've heard and witnessed that on E85. I'm on 93 pump so I get a little lucky. With my aluminum rods though, I don't move the car until it's over 120-130* to get some heat in them.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197508 posted 12/28/14 03:57 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Anyone ever heard of lifters keeping valves slightly open due to a thick oil, in cold climates, after sitting?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197534 posted 12/28/14 08:05 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I run Rotella T6 on all my vehicles. Simply a great oil for the price! I also run Purolator filters except for my motorcycle that gets K&N since its an easier filter so safety wire.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1197538 posted 12/28/14 09:36 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Quoting presterone:

Anyone ever heard of lifters keeping valves slightly open due to a thick oil, in cold climates, after sitting?




Shouldn't happen if the lifters are working correctly and the ports in the head aren't restricted. Pressure to them should cease as soon as the engine shuts down. If they are bled correctly, they shouldn't be able to hold valves open between starts. Only time I hear of this is during cam installs if they aren't bled down correctly.



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