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bluzvr4
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193309 posted 11/06/14 10:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Get I know this has been beat 1000 times and I've read a bunch but alot of them go for straight out race cars. A couple things I was wondering.

1. Is our front crossmember different then a 1g is so does anyone make a chromoly 3 peice like they do for dsms.

2. How heavy is our crash bars? Is it easier to make my own replacement of does someone else make then?

3. What little things have you die to shed some weight while emaining a complete street car with mostly stock aprearance.

I've allready deleted ac and a few things under the hood that didn't need to be there. I'm not good rl for lightest alot by any means but would like to be around 3000 pounds



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193316 posted 11/06/14 11:29 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
they do make a 3 piece chromoly crossmembers but the full 3 piece doesnt save much weight



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193319 posted 11/06/14 11:40 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Any idea on how much? I thought they were quite a bit on dsms



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193323 posted 11/06/14 12:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
3 piece crossmember cost around $265. The NS bars are different, but everyone that makes them for the DSM makes them for the VR4.

Here is my weight reduction so far:
-1 piece chromoly cross member
-chromoly mustache bar
-DSS aluminum driveshaft
-removed F&R crash bars
-removed AC
-removed cruise control
-removed 4WS
-removed ABS
-removed spare tire and jack
-removed trunk carpet and plastics
-removed firewalls insulation
-removed windshield fluid
-removed sound deadening under dash
-89 under dash and glove box
-removed carpet padding
-lighter battery
-CF hood with hood latches
-removed all emissions
-manual steering rack
-trimmed wiring harnesses
-removed heater box, blower motor
-deleted coolant to TB and turbo, NA OFH


Next up is a harness bar and manual windows



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Edited by LIV4PSI (11/06/14 02:07 PM)

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bluzvr4
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193328 posted 11/06/14 01:03 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Any idea what urs weighs.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193330 posted 11/06/14 01:06 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
None at all, I'll find out once it's finished this spring. If it's above 3,000lbs I'll be pissed. I keep think of things I forgot from that list too haha



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193331 posted 11/06/14 01:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Good lightweight rims can help shed up to 30 lbs, plus it's rotating weight. Seats are another way to shed 50lbs.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193332 posted 11/06/14 01:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
What do this cars weigh in at factory? I've heard all over the place.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193333 posted 11/06/14 01:18 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I always figured 3400 with all fluids full... Not sure how close I am.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193337 posted 11/06/14 01:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It's closer to 3,300lbs I believe, less if you don't have a sunroof



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193338 posted 11/06/14 01:35 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Mine does have a sunroof. I planned on removing the sound deadener, the ac? The f&r bumper supports and all the emission stuff. Was going to remove the power steering my my wife enjoys the car with it. Also haven't decided if the 4ws is staying or be. I guess a big part will depend on if it works



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193339 posted 11/06/14 01:40 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ABS is pretty heavy, basically worthless, and easy to remove. I would do that one for sure



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193340 posted 11/06/14 01:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Do u just use a Dsm kit for that?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193345 posted 11/06/14 02:07 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yep



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193346 posted 11/06/14 02:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I am using a three piece cross member, it weighs a shit ton less than the heavy stamped steel oem pieces.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193348 posted 11/06/14 02:31 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I got my crossmember kit from www.bulfab.com . Mine was mainly done to create more room in the engine bay. It's lighter than stock. I heard about 10lbs savings.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193365 posted 11/06/14 06:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I've read that one of the bars (in the bullfab kit) needs to be removed in order to do an oil change with the stock oil pan. Something how the bar runs right up against the drain plug.



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Brett gstwithpsi is the nut rider!


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193367 posted 11/06/14 06:33 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That is absolutely correct Wookalar



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193372 posted 11/06/14 07:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah...but it's not really much to do. You remove that one bolt and it (the bar) swivels out of the way. It takes me more time removing the turbo oil feed from the oil filter housing than getting that N-S bar out of the way.



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Edited by diambo4life (11/06/14 07:15 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193390 posted 11/06/14 09:43 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
go on a diet, ya fat fuck



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193397 posted 11/06/14 11:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I bought the 3 piece chromoly crossmember from Paul Volk, you are right I just assumed its not much lighter but its quite alot lighter, you dont need to remove the north south bar to do an oil change on this set.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193415 posted 11/07/14 08:37 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Stock weight on my car was 3456lbs. Current weight is 2860lbs. I have removed all interior insulation and sound deadening, carpet ect., fiberglass aftermarket seats, carbon hood, carbon sunroof delete, all a/c and heat removed. Still have power windows, abs brake system, and front bumper support. Rear bumper support is now aluminum. I added subframe connectors that weighed in at 25lbs before I welded them on. I have most of the stuff to remove the power windows and locks, I have plans to update the abs to something that works so I'm leaving the stock system on till then. I would think that the lightweight underdash, some lighter yet comfortable seats, and lightening the rear bumper support would be places to start.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193432 posted 11/07/14 10:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I've seen alot of people say a aluminum rear bar. Is that something custom or is there one u can find?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193448 posted 11/07/14 12:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Quoting vr4play:

Stock weight on my car was 3456lbs. Current weight is 2860lbs. I have removed all interior insulation and sound deadening, carpet ect., fiberglass aftermarket seats, carbon hood, carbon sunroof delete, all a/c and heat removed. Still have power windows, abs brake system, and front bumper support. Rear bumper support is now aluminum. I added subframe connectors that weighed in at 25lbs before I welded them on. I have most of the stuff to remove the power windows and locks, I have plans to update the abs to something that works so I'm leaving the stock system on till then. I would think that the lightweight underdash, some lighter yet comfortable seats, and lightening the rear bumper support would be places to start.




Interested in the sunroof delete. I have a non sunroof headliner to put in and would love to lose 50 lbs of the highest point of the car.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1193450 posted 11/07/14 12:28 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Quoting BENE38A:

I bought the 3 piece chromoly crossmember from Paul Volk, you are right I just assumed its not much lighter but its quite alot lighter, you dont need to remove the north south bar to do an oil change on this set.




I'm interested in seeing pics of the "Paul Volk" bars if you feel like posting some. We've seen the bullfab kit. I suppose they are just bars but I would like to see how one kit differs from the other in terms of the oil drain plug blockage vs not.



</font><blockquote><font class="small">Quoting 89Patches:</font><hr />

Brett gstwithpsi is the nut rider!


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