can i use e85 for DD?

[yeti]

I did some research andsome people say its fine when they mix a few gallons of normal gas in
just wanted to know cause none of the research was on a turbo-charged car

i have driven 1000miles and more on e85 on my Ford Escort

just wanted to know if it bad to consistently Fill Up on.

 

[mitsuturbo]

Do a little research on materials that E85 corrodes. I believe some of the components found in our cars are susceptible to undue corrosion from E85.
Other than that, if properly set up.. you can run straight E85 all the time, so long as you dont mind getting 8mpg.

 

[trunks]

I've been doing it for three years now between my dsm and gvr4. Whether or not will eat the fuel system is still up for debate so I won't get into that. My awd Talon used to get 20 mpg on average in the summer. The galant was about 17 average. Now it's like 14 mpgs in the winter but it's idling a lot too.

 

[misfitsnemesis]

Agree the debait is always going to be there for some about corrosive parts. A local shop has not had any problem running E85 and E98 in stock fuel lines on DSM,EVO,MK4 supra or nissans.

I have ran it in stock DSM with just FP and bigger injector and tune. It can be used for DD aslong as it is close to you and you have pumps around your area. i know some people still dont have pumps around every corner. there is atleast 1 every 20 mins away from me around TN. Some time there a lil bit close.

 

[yeti]

theres 1 about 15 miles or less from me

and can i just fill up on e85 or do i need injectors and fpr
im understanding the corrosive idea just wondering if i pass a station and fill up on e85 then would anybad happen (rich/lean mixture)

 

[donniekak]

Quoting mitsuturbo:
Do a little research on materials that E85 corrodes. I believe some of the components found in our cars are susceptible to undue corrosion from E85.
Other than that, if properly set up.. you can run straight E85 all the time, so long as you dont mind getting 8mpg.


I get about 20 mpg average in my e85 dsm.

 

[misfitsnemesis]

Quote:
theres 1 about 15 miles or less from me

and can i just fill up on e85 or do i need injectors and fpr
im understanding the corrosive idea just wondering if i pass a station and fill up on e85 then would anybad happen (rich/lean mixture)






You will need injectors,fuel pump,FPR and tune. Pointless to run E85 if you do not have the car tuned for it. E85 needs almost double the fuel system to run it.

 

[524of1000]

^ This.

 

[yeti]

good 2 know thank you everyone

 

[Brunoboy]

You need large injectors fuel pump and something to tune with as well as a wifeband. Ratio for E85 i headd is your injector sizex.675? Or close to that.

 

[Adorsey]

Quoting misfitsnemesis:
Quote:
theres 1 about 15 miles or less from me

and can i just fill up on e85 or do i need injectors and fpr
im understanding the corrosive idea just wondering if i pass a station and fill up on e85 then would anybad happen (rich/lean mixture)






You will need injectors,fuel pump,FPR and tune. Pointless to run E85 if you do not have the car tuned for it. E85 needs almost double the fuel system to run it.





E85 adds 30% more fuel to the exciting setup. If you cant adjust your fuel trims right now, than you need to look into a means of doing so before E85.
aka. ecmlink. Buying an AFPR has nothing to do with it. You can run stock fp without any problems.

Stock fuel pump? Just look into a used 190 or 255 wb. or a supra pump. But you dont have to go crazy with a external or anything.
Injectors? Depending on your current setup and tune, you have to allow for the advancement of that 30% in your fuel system.(buying injectors)
Or the make the decrease to accomidate (ex. running 1000's, and having them set for 700's)

This is what I have gathered for information on the subject.
I would never just "fill up" with it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/uhh.gif

 

[mitsuturbo]

Quoting donniekak:
Quoting mitsuturbo:
Do a little research on materials that E85 corrodes. I believe some of the components found in our cars are susceptible to undue corrosion from E85.
Other than that, if properly set up.. you can run straight E85 all the time, so long as you dont mind getting 8mpg.


I get about 20 mpg average in my e85 dsm.



I can't get anywhere NEAR that if i'm enjoying my car. I can get over 30 on the freeway with what i'd call a "travel tune", but around town.. i'm lucky if i get 20mpg. I'm sure with the boost turned up and some E85, i'd burn through a tank in about 150 miles... which seems to be about what many of the DSM owners on the link forums seem to get.

 

[yeti]

thanks for info
good 2 know and will not fill up on again

 

[misfitsnemesis]

Quote:
E85 adds 30% more fuel to the exciting setup. If you cant adjust your fuel trims right now, than you need to look into a means of doing so before E85.
aka. ecmlink. Buying an AFPR has nothing to do with it. You can run stock fp without any problems.

Stock fuel pump? Just look into a used 190 or 255 wb. or a supra pump. But you dont have to go crazy with a external or anything.
Injectors? Depending on your current setup and tune, you have to allow for the advancement of that 30% in your fuel system.(buying injectors)
Or the make the decrease to accomidate (ex. running 1000's, and having them set for 700's)

This is what I have gathered for information on the subject.
I would never just "fill up" with it





Yeah it is around 30 but i always tell people to double there fuel system for E85 kinda of like a safty net. No i have never ran a stock FP with E85. Always use a 255 hint why i said FP.Not stock FP. a 190 would be better then nothing but i would recomend atleast something 255 or flows more like the supra pump. You will need a Fuel pressure regulator on 255 or supra pump cause the stock regulator will start to get over flowed by bigger pumps. I have not ran E85 on a stock regulator. So i would just get one to be safe. You will need one sooner or later any way. Yeah never use E85 with out having the car fuel system setup for it and tune.

 

[Launch]

OEM mitsu(denso)FPRs are way more reliable and useful than people give them credit. Aeromotive sucks donkey balls.
If your not raising rail pressure by leaps and bounds why replace a perfectly good regulator? ...
(rant off.02 out)

 

[Adorsey]

yes.thanks.

 

[prestonztt]

Ive been running E85 for about 8 months now with just injectors and a Walbro. Ive been running it with my 16g. At 25psi, it made 365whp. I have been daily driving like that and no problems whatsoever.

 

[Adorsey]

So you have a stock gvr4 ecu, right?
No other ems to help you out with those numbers?

 

[prestonztt]

Just an Eprom Ecu with a burnt chip, thats it.

 

[Adorsey]

So that chip is all stock right? Because, Yeti here, has a stock setup.
And im advising him to not fill up on E85 because of that.
Now since that chip you have does effect the Ecu with its own numbers, why are you letting me know you run E85?