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E74A (prototype?)-E84A VR4


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928787 posted 09/07/10 05:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hello everybody.
I have an E84A VR4, wich I want to restore into very good condition, I will have some questions about it, and if I can not find any answer in the forum listed before, than I will ask here.

But, the most interesting thing is my E74A VR4, wich looks, that it was the second 7G VR4 ever produced with an E-E74A-00000002 VIN number, and it can easily be the one of the prototypes of this kind of car.
All parts in the car has an "Engineering Sample" sticker on it, the boot is full with electronic gadgets like GPS, VHS, tuner, CD changer, etc, it has a huge TFT display in the center console, and no 4WS.
Can anybody tell me something about this?

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928789 posted 09/07/10 05:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Welcome! please post pictures.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928790 posted 09/07/10 05:16 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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I know it's a foreign idea for most of us here, but you might want to try taking the car off jackstands.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928807 posted 09/07/10 05:46 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hello guys.
Thanks for the fast reply.
I think in Your country it is midday...here is 1 o'clock AM.
So, i have already started a topic on Msport.com, but nobody has an answer.
I have contacted Mitsubishi, but still no reply.
I don't want to miss out anybody from this mysterious car, so I link the Msport topic page, it is easier for me, there are some pictures about the car.
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928816 posted 09/07/10 06:04 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
E74A is just the 4WD Galant without 4WS, much like how the E38A doesn't have 4WS.

E54A is FWD with no 4WS while E64A is FWD with 4WS.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928818 posted 09/07/10 06:11 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Also, according to CAPS your car doesn't exist haha, the chassis number doesn't come up with anything. You've put one too many 0's in the number but even with the correct amount (0000002) it still doesn't come up.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928819 posted 09/07/10 06:13 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
But this E74A is a VR4, this is for sure.
E74A VR4

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928821 posted 09/07/10 06:15 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yes, E74A can be a VR-4 or it could be a non-turbo 2.0L V6 4WD without 4WS, ie a Viento-4 model. Just like how you can get non-turbo 4WD and 4WS E39A MX-4s in the 6G.

The strange thing is though the E74A VR-4 wasn't introduced until mid way through 1993 while the 4WS 4WD E84A VR-4 had been in production for a full 12 months prior. If your '93 had '91 dates on it then I wonder if there were E84A prototypes around in 1990.



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Edited by fuel (09/07/10 06:19 PM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928828 posted 09/07/10 06:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know that CAPS don't have any info about the car, we have already checked.
This car has to be the very first (second), with manufacturing dates from 1991-1992. Probably a pre-produce road test vehicle.
It is from japan, JDM, so it has 12 character VIN number, not 17, like all others in EU for example.
It can happen that I missed a 0 or put an extra 0 on the vin number, but this is the chassis number, I swear. I have photo, but I do not want to upload it for anyone.
This is why I'm here, and ask You.
Please do not weary me with no-meaning stuff.
I hope this car has a history, and I want to know it's path until I have it.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928830 posted 09/07/10 06:24 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The engine was not transplanted, it is the original 115k km 6A12TT engine of the car, and it is fully untouched at all.
Not so much difference with my E84A VR4, but there is some.
I have E39A Dynamic4 as my daily car, and I love it, I know that there was endless variations of these cars those days, especially in japan.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928831 posted 09/07/10 06:26 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I know all about the JDM chassis numbers, I'm in NZ where we are flooded with JDM cars. I currently own a JDM 6G with the 12 digit chassis number and I have had no less than four 7th gen JDM Galants too, one being a fully optioned E84A automatic with TCL, Trace, 4WS and the same screen as yours.

Your chassis number is E74A-0000002, you had one extra 0 put in on your first post.

There are a few pre-production prototypes floating around, here in NZ in the South Island is a 1985 Mitsubishi Starion, the strange thing is that it has 4WS and the whole rear suspension looks identical to E39A Galant VR-4 and GTO/3000GT rear suspension, rather than the conventional Starion setup with torque tube. According to Mitsubishi this car doesn't exist on their database and it should have never left Japan (they get crushed by Mitsubishi) - I would say the Starion and your Galant somehow escaped from being crushed.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928861 posted 09/07/10 07:50 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's cool as hell! I hope you can find some history on this car, if you do, please share!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928887 posted 09/07/10 09:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Pretty rare shit there!

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928918 posted 09/07/10 10:32 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Potentially the vehicle may have been one sent to Europe for review by the distributors to decide if they want to sell them in their markets. They are supposed to scrap them when they are finished with them, because in most cases it is not worth it to return them. And humans always follow the rules...



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928990 posted 09/08/10 03:54 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The chassis code/vin number is incorrect I suspect
A bit unusual but similar Mitsubishi chassis vehicles have batched numbering to distinguish them from one another eg: E39A Galant VR4 00xxxxx, E39A Eterna Sava 200xxxx, E39A Eterna ZR4 300xxxx.


Edited by RedTwo (09/08/10 03:55 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928992 posted 09/08/10 04:08 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think I've cracked it, but I need to download some more ASA files to be sure...
The only cars in ASA (Japanese database) with an E74A chassis start with 03 and there are only ~3128 of them. A car with the chassis number E74A-0300002 exists, however it is a 'Sports GT' or lift back with roof rails which does not match the photo you have posted in the other thread.

I think this is a European market car, rather than a 'grey import' (used Japanese car) so will not show up in the Japanese catalogue

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928998 posted 09/08/10 06:27 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The car is fully JDM with 110k km. This is a fact. The VIN number is 0000002. This is a fact too. I came in the EU for about, hmm, I don't know how many years ago, but I think fewer than 5 years.
I can tell You the extras the car have. It is unmodified, untouched, everything is in it's place.
We have to put everything back, because who I bought this car from had a head gasket fail, and started to rip the car apart to repair it, but his project was stuck.
Once we check everything we build it up, and try to start, and try the spec functions of it. It is necessary then to fully disassemble the car for further repairing and restoring it to perfect condition.
MMC has just received my e-mail about this car, I hope someone competent will get that mail, who can answer to my questions.
The car and the chassis number can not appear in any ASA or CAPS list, because I think this car was not manufactured in the factory lines, it was built for testing, not as a show car.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 928999 posted 09/08/10 06:30 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I think this VR4 wasn't imported here in EU, because I have never seen any of it here. And I never saw LHD from this 7G VR4. And it has everything in japanese.
I saw USDM 6G VR4 and 8G VR4 and Legnums around with LHD.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 929175 posted 09/08/10 03:02 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
ALL european cars have a 17 digit iso vin. most likely it is the real deal.

Try and raise a guy at Mitsubishi motors called Mr H Kubo, pop it in an email throught the japanese website. I'll have a look tomorrow for his e-mail tomorrow., but they recently changed their e-mail structure, he helped out with identifiying and verifying the vin of my car.

please post some pics here....

It is also possible that the car has come from some African or South American market.

Rich

Quoting RedTwo:

I think I've cracked it, but I need to download some more ASA files to be sure...
The only cars in ASA (Japanese database) with an E74A chassis start with 03 and there are only ~3128 of them. A car with the chassis number E74A-0300002 exists, however it is a 'Sports GT' or lift back with roof rails which does not match the photo you have posted in the other thread.

I think this is a European market car, rather than a 'grey import' (used Japanese car) so will not show up in the Japanese catalogue





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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 929242 posted 09/08/10 05:27 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
One question. Those 16 inch AEZ rims on the E74A was factory default wheels? It has mitsu covers too.
My other VR4:


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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 929335 posted 09/08/10 10:21 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It looks just like an E84a... No offense...

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look at the dollar bill in the picture above.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 929417 posted 09/09/10 03:43 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
This dark gray car is E84A with every paper clear.
The silver one is the E74A with the strange VIN.

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 929421 posted 09/09/10 04:25 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
Well I concur that the car is probably a Japanese one, ASA-Europe doesn't have E74As at all!
It may infact be a practice/sample car as you suggest! There is that Evo 8 sample car that some guy in the USA got his hands on that had something like 9999999999 as the VIN.
I would have thought this kind of car would be destroyed shortly after main production began

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