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Rear Subframe Question

Nebraska

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I'm in the process of cleaning up my rear subframe and have it out of the car. I'm curious as to what bushing I have to replace so that when 4ws is removed the trailing arms have no chance of moving as some say the rear end can feel "loose" without the tie rods connected.
 

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AT the front end of the trailing are there is the bushing that bolts it to the crossmember. Where that attaches into the trailing arm is where the passive toe movement occurs.
 

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Okay thank you! So are the gvr4 and dsm bushings the same? Or is there a way to Eliminate the passive rear toe? Standing in front of these subframes the 4ws junk seems to be the only difference. Can anyone verify this?
 

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Yes, the 4WS is the only difference.
 

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Quoting Nebraska:
Okay thank you! So are the gvr4 and dsm bushings the same? Or is there a way to Eliminate the passive rear toe? Standing in front of these subframes the 4ws junk seems to be the only difference. Can anyone verify this?



exactly the same.
I removed the rubber on mine and welded in washers so it's completely stiff.
However, this is a slight compromise on how the suspension could work, and there is or was someone selling metal bushings/joints so it allows the trailing arm to make the slight movements that it needs to during it's travel.
For 99% of us, just welding in a washer/plate is fine.
 
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Thanks for the input everybody, it is much appreciated!
 

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Have a bitch of a time releasing the upper control arm at the ball joint and the bushing side. The camber adjustment bolt turns but won't come out even with a dead blow. DOES ANYONE HAVE A TRICK UP THEIR SLEEVE?
 

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I had to cut mine out and buy new bolts. They are frozen to the sleeve inside the bushing.
 
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