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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204405 posted 03/20/15 07:07 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204406 posted 03/20/15 07:23 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Those are not stock injectors, so they may be slightly different. On stock pieces, there is one actual o-ring on the top of the injector that inserts into the fuel rail. Below that there is a "cushion" ring that encircles the top of the injector but does not actually seal anything and sits outside the fuel rail.

Then there are the seals in the head where the injector tip inserts through.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204407 posted 03/20/15 07:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks!



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204411 posted 03/20/15 08:44 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
they look like my fic injectors. I jammed the stock o rings in but they were not correct. the spacers for the rail also seem to be different but it may just be the oring fit.

no Teflon tape on AN conectors when you put it back together.



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Edited by tektic (03/20/15 08:47 AM)

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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204418 posted 03/20/15 09:22 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
They are fic, I think i got it in right. First time with the injector seal maintenance. Yeah Teflon tape wasn't my idea, 75 year old Pontiac mechanic told me I need that.... come back to the forum was told otherwise. Thanks



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204451 posted 03/20/15 07:58 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah I'll be busy Sunday then back to work on Monday.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204942 posted 03/26/15 09:52 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Hey guys, been a while since I've updated on anything. What we got today is good news plus some bad. The good is i got the fuel rail assembled and running well. No leaks.

Bad news. I started driving felt suspension noise? That's not the real bad but I hadn't driven the vr4 in almost a month. But i got to the gas station to put some fresh gas in, walking out of the store I noticed I have multiple drips of oil under my car. I was too far to turn around but every stop I noticed I had spots. So I definitely have an active leak, driver side. It's not too bad, but enough to make me check my oil level every trip. <-excessive. I did a search and it could be a couple things on that area? Balance shafts plug? Crank sensor? Main seal? Uhh oil filter housing. So I have so pictures for you all. Another thing is I had the upper timing cover off and didn't notice oil on the t belt. But there is oil all on the driver half shaft. Pictures uploading, thanks org



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204944 posted 03/26/15 10:17 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
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First three are oily spots.... this last one is the passenger side...dry as a desert
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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204950 posted 03/26/15 10:56 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I might have discoveres my own problem. I remember the previous owner saying the oil filter was the wrong side because of clearance issues. So maybe my oil filter has lost its seal on the housing.... it hasn't always been like this will attempt an oil change and experiment with a different filter



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204974 posted 03/27/15 07:56 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
The axle shaft looks like possibly grease from a split boot.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1204984 posted 03/27/15 10:00 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Grab a can of engine shampoo. Add a little pinch of engine oil dye. Dry off the entire area affected and run the car. See what appears with a flashlight.

If you have access to a blacklight of any sort and a set of yellow lense glasses, you will clearly see anything starting and quite well at that.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205138 posted 03/30/15 04:08 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I found the problem, or at least 90 percent of the leak. It was the oil filter. If you look in the picture the PO used a huge stubby filter to fit the clearance of the exhaust. He probably grabbed the first on he could find and was done with it. I got a smaller one that is even shorter. I think it's Delco or something. But I'm going to find a better quality similar size in the future. Maintenance seems almost complete. Then onto you're all suggestions. The previous owner gave me a oil pressure sending unit. I see the old one but doesn't seem to have the wire to the sender. I'm guessing to the gauge. No big deal though. You all will hate me but my fpr is zip tied to 5he brake booster. I didn't have the patience or the supplies to mount the thing. Work in progress



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205144 posted 03/30/15 06:23 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I don't hate you because your FPR isn't properly mounted. I promise though, you will hate you when your car catches on fire. Just sayin...

For the oil press sender, it's for the idiot light since out car's don't have an actual gauge. It's not a huge deal if it's not hooked up. Typically, by the time the light comes on it's too late. It is good for initial startup though. It's a great way to tell if you get oil pressure right away after a few cranks.

Even with a shorter oil filter, it still looks really close to the downpipe. I'd see if there was some way to shield it from the heat. You could wrap the downpipe with exhaust wrap. Or, you could even fab up a small heat shield.

You're making progress on the car, and that's what matters. Sometimes it's overwhelming when all the little stuff adds up though. Don't let that stuff discourage you.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205196 posted 03/31/15 02:39 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Yeah that leak kind of scared the shit oit of me. Lucky it was just the filter. Been dry for 100 or so miles. And there's no leaks from my fpr. But I'm sure it's not meant to be chilling snug next to brake resevoir on zip ties. But i had my fun with the fittings and I cut the line too long so it doesn't easily fit anywhere. I just have to go back place the afpr, then make the lines to it. I also did a hack job on the fuel rail aspect. Instead of getting a 90 degree fitting connected to an end. I made the end 45 connect to the rail. Well I got it all together and my fuel rail wouldn't fit because it was hitting the timing cover. So I had to remove a piece of the cover so it woulwouldn't rub. I know it's bad but, I have to deal with my "rats nest" of spark plug wires, so I mine as well replace timing cover and fix my early mistake. Other than that she is good. I'm curious to inspect the turbo and find out what it needs cooling wise. I see the brake line connected. Another day I suppose



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205197 posted 03/31/15 02:42 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Well I have a pod on my pannel, that's a fuel pressure gauge. PO gave me a gold bell looking thing he said is the sending unit. But i was looking on YouTube and there was a fellow talking about tapping the housing for the fuel pressure gauge. I'm still a bit confused. I guess I'll post picture of what he gave me



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205207 posted 03/31/15 07:14 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I would install an oil filter relocation kit >> click



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205217 posted 03/31/15 08:51 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
I have had a few beers tonight, but where exactly on that kit does the filter go? It would be cool to put something useful where the battery slot is. If not oil filter, then a alternator relocate



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205224 posted 03/31/15 10:45 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
It goes on the end of one of the adaptors.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205235 posted 04/01/15 12:59 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Ill highly consider this. Is there rules with oil regarding flow? Could I put the relocation anywhere or is there methods to placing it, for better flow, circulation, actually filtering. Thanks



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205249 posted 04/01/15 07:24 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Don't worry about that, you're using fence post for a down pipe. You have more other important things to worry about. Just buy it.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205303 posted 04/01/15 08:47 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
My fence post is of very high quality. I actually really love my setup. It needs a few things but every horse needs grass. Changing brakes this weekend. Anyone recommend any special brands or can I just pick them up from the local auto store? Going to mount the fpr next week. Work on shields of sorts for both my altenator and oil filter? Maybe get that relocator? No one knows of the sciences behind the relocation ? Pros and cons?



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205335 posted 04/02/15 06:50 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
No real science behind it. Relocation is usually done for convenience of service or space issues. Find an accessible location for the remote mount, not too far away that you can plumb the lines without excess length or bends. Use decent size hose like at least 1/2" (-8).

As for brakes, I tend to spend money on front pads and not just use the lowest common denominator stuff from the parts store. I used Performance Friction the last time and others have used EBC or Hawk. Again, know your usage. If it is just a street car you should buy pad material appropriately. I tend to buy higher end street stuff for my daily driver. I don't track it, but I do drive it fairly hard at times.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205345 posted 04/02/15 10:01 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
Thanks iceman, when I cleaned up my oil leak I had the front driver wheel off inspected the brake pads they looked like they needed service soon. Nothing I thought was a red flag. Pulled into my driveway yesterday and notice there was smoke, thought it was another oil leak. But come to find out it appeared to be my rotor. So car is down again until I can get new brakes on her. Will probably change all 4 at once and rotate tires. I haven't looked in manual about our caliper setup but is the cylinder for the brake just pressure? Could I use a c clamp or do I need a turning tool to depress [if it's turning please kill me] dude at work who's brakes I did had the turning one on his 94 ford Taurus POS



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205353 posted 04/02/15 11:26 AM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post      
front are compression, rears are turn in. if the brakes were smoking then you probably have a hot spot on the rotor and those need to be resurfaced/replaced. im with iceman, i spend money on my brakes. i use stoptech slotted rotors and pads, talk to BobDole for these if you like, and i love them. i drive super aggressive at times and i live on top of a mountain so i drive passes all the time. in the rear i have stock rotors and autopart store high end pads. hope this is some help.



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Galant VR-4 org Post #: 1205368 posted 04/02/15 04:12 PM     Remind Me!  Send Private Message   Edit Post   
If you were not driving hard and braking hard prior to the brakes smoking, then you need a caliper and/or a hose. Something caused the caliper to not release and held the pads tight. Sticking pads won't do that.

If you push the caliper back and it's tight as hell, then you need a caliper.



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