**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/24/09 05:41 PM
642 rebuild

For those who read my initial introduction post on 642/2000, you know what a mess the engine bay and trunk were. Rausch saw it when it was in Dan's hands and can attest to the state of hack it was in. Initially set out just to fix up the loose ends to get it running and then drive it, but once I started digging into it relized that I may as well pull everything, fix it right, and throw it all back together so that I know its done right.
So here's the before pics:

The major kill factor of it was the way he spliced into the wiring harness, the poor hose routing, the fact that it was spray painted over the oil/dirt leaving a tackie feel to it, oh and the fact that it looked like S*@#!!!

Here's her part way cleaned after everything was pulled:

And after paint:

While everything was out, I stripped all the engine brackets off and repainted them, as well as the valve cover, and intake. I was amazed at all the shady work I found, like a zip tied CV boot . Also took this time to get familiar with the wiring harness and the service manual. Strip all AC, PS, ABS, and the unneeded emissions (no checks around here ).

Then I started reinstalling everything, with the new goodies.



I still have quite a bit to do in the engine bay, but I figured I'd post some progress and get some feedback. I haven't even touched anything else yet. Going to be fixing the sending unit flange on the gas tank and reduing all the wiring for the battery in the trunk this week, as well as buttoning up a lot of the loose ends in the engine bay.
The other big one is new FMIC and piping. I ordered an EVO8 off ebay, but it never came and I'm still trying to get my money back
If anyone knows a good deal on one let me know.


Terrance362
(needs moar imput)
08/25/09 07:00 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Try Garfeild, he might have some.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/25/09 08:57 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Thanks.
PM'd him


Rausch
(Rock Star Status)
08/25/09 09:47 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Looking good man!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/25/09 11:45 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Thanks. Still got a ways to go. Finished machining some new shifter cable bushings yesterday w/ some spare nylatron that I had for paintball gun bolts, and some solid shifter mounts. Should firm thing up a lot. Now if only someone would send me pics of some SS brake lines, that would finish off my pedal/shifter feel list

Rausch
(Rock Star Status)
08/25/09 11:47 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

I know- I suck.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/26/09 11:20 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Installed new shifter cable bushings yesterday. Nice fit.
Also grabbed some pics of the new shoes, plus a free pair (ie they came with my golf which was free) that I'm considering.

17x7 +40 offset exel ennios w/ kumho ecsta supra 225/40s


and the debateable:
18x7.5 +42 ICW DV8s which need new tires.


Will get pics of both on the car to see how they look. Keepin the stockers for winter.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/26/09 12:05 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

those first ones kind of look like momo sports. I love those wheels



**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/26/09 03:35 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Not to fond of those momo's personally. Always wanted a set of momo evo 3s though.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/27/09 11:11 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Finished up the spacers for under the radiator and got it in its final mounting position (not fully bolt though bc its coming back out to get fan mounted).

Also got the rest of my goodies in for hooking up my battery.

Ran 0 ga for power and ground up to engine bay. Going to get terminals and everything else on tonight.



turbowop
(Hard Snarker)
08/28/09 03:20 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

You really didn't need to run a ground wire all the way from the trunk to the engine bay. Just connect it to the top of the rear shock mount and it works great. I also would have ran the large power wires through the huge grommet behind the splash guards in the passenger front wheel well.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/28/09 06:55 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Heard mixed on the ground in trunk, but it was grounded back there when I got it and it was having some serious flow issues. Moving battery up front solved it temperarily. If I learned anything from my comp stereo days though, its that having the battery, engine, and chassis all directly grounded to eachother is Always better then using chassis as central ground. Not neccessary, but gauranteed to flow better/crank over easier.
Might look at that grommet and see if it works better though.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/28/09 07:00 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Finished removing the ABS control unit, g sensors and all of its chassis wiring last night. didn't get around to buttoning up the battery though.
We'll see if I get anything done this weekend due to weather. If nothing else, I'll make an EGR blockoff, and new shifter bushing. Might even make a new bottom portion to the FPR to mount it straight to rail depending on how the internals look.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/03/09 07:12 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Been swamped at home/work and haven't gotten a lot worth posting done. Found that the driver seat mounts were pretty rusted right where they bolted down, so I cleaned them up and put two coats of POR-15 on them. Made up a set of delrin shifter bushings and solid mounts and got it all put back together. Finished installing battery in trunk, ran wire for EGT, and finished wrapping the front engine bay harness. Still have to wrap the engine harness, but once thats done, the FMIC and piping will be all thats left under the hood.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/10/09 06:17 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

So haven't gotten a lot done this week. Might be picking up another car though. 91' GSX, auto , clean chassis, bone stock, but not running. He thinks its the CPS, but not sure. I should be able to get it for 400. Not sure for driving or parts yet, but if its parts I'm splitting the cost with my friend and he's doing a turbo conversion on his laser. Keep posted on how that pans out.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/11/09 09:42 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Finally got an FMIC setup on order thanks to Jason (shiskibob).
ended up working like 12.5 hrs yesterday, so I only had to work 3 hrs today since we're not allowed to work any OT. That means I should get a lot of stuff buttoned down this weekend.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/14/09 07:04 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Got that GSX that I'm looking at running. Had leaky cap in ecu, and a pos bov venting to atmosphere w/ no plug on the intake side recirculation hole, and a snapped fuel return line. Runs pretty smooth now, though it still has some issues (hole in sending unit, radiator fans aren't working, and who knows what else)
On the Galant end, I finally started sorting through some of the details this weekend. Finished wrapping and tucking the engine wiring harness, moved the FRP (again), mounted a 240sx windshield washer resivoir where the ABS unit was, and figured out where my AFC and third gauge were mounting (decided to squeeze them in CD player slot). Also picked up some SS brake lines and A pillar pod from Aaron. Try to get up some pics tomorrow.


Rausch
(Rock Star Status)
09/14/09 03:31 PM
Re: 642 rebuild



Was nice meeting you! Think the car is in good hands.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/15/09 06:16 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Same here. Now it just needs to run

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/21/09 06:50 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

So there was a big 42# box waiting for me when I got home on friday. Finally got my intercooler setup!!! Got it test fit and did some shorter rerouting, then stripped all the pipes down and repainted them, as well as polishing and painting the end tanks. My gaskets won't be in till tuesday, so no pics of the setup till then.
I'll be making some mounts for my radiator fan today, as well as some other misc items like EGR blockoff,caps for AC holes in firewall, and ring for sending unit in tank.
Teaser cell phone pics




**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/22/09 06:30 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Capped all the ports on the TB, made EGR block off plate, rad fan mounts, and caps for holes in firewall yesterday. Got home to late to install any of it. My gaskets are suppose to come in today, so I should be a able to finish install everything this evening.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/02/09 11:53 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Weathers been crappy so haven't been to motivated to finish everything, but I've been chipping away and hope to turn her over tomorrow.
FMIC setup is all repainted and installed, plumbing is done, wiring is fully wrapped and mounted, radiator fan mounted, did most of the fluids yesterday (1.5:1 MTL:MT90 in transmissions, lightweight shock poof in transfer case, and castrol 10W30 in engine). Got my hardlines that mount on the struts yesterday. Still have to get them and my braided stainless lines in and everything bled.
Also finally dug into the gas tank which I've been avoiding. All studs were broke, half of the mount that goes around the sending unit holes lip was ripped up, and there were 9 holes from various hacked mounting attempts (2 holes were actually from a hose clamp that was cut in half and the ends screwed into the tank about 4 inches from the hole, then tightened down to hold it in place ). So I removed the rest of the ring and JB welded all the holes last night. I'm going to POR15 as much of the top of the tank as I can see when I get home. The plan is to drill the 6 holes for new studs in the tank. I turned a ring and locktited 5mm bolts into it to make new studs. I then cut it in half so that I can get it into the tank. I'll then bolt them in place using jam nuts. Then I'm making a dam and around the lip about an inch wide. I'm going to then fill that in with epoxy to give a solid, flat, surface to seal too. Should be cured by tomorrow morning. Might even get to drive it this weekend


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/02/09 12:27 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Sam,
With this clean build you're doing, I'd make sure those ic pipes are cleaned up. They look out of place on such a clean car .


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/02/09 03:51 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Thanks. I take that very highly given the quality of your setup from what I've seen.
Those pics were from the rough fitting when I got everything. They've since been, fully stripped, sanded, and painted. The IC end tanks were sanded smooth to get rid of the cast finish and painted as well. All gloss black now (with the exception of the core which I didn't want to put any more paint on then what was already there.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/05/09 07:12 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Well I worked on the Galant all weekend and can't get it to run. I finished the gas tank Saturday morning and the new studs and epoxy mounting ring setup appears to be working very nicely. Bolted up nicely and there are no fumes. Also wired up a relay for the pump with 10 gauge power wire coming from the battery.
Had a few issues when I first went to turn it over and got them sorted out, but somethings still up. Acting as if my ECM isn't turning on. No spark, no fuel coming out of injectors. I know its something stupid, just not what. My laptop's hard drive had crashed earlier saturday taking my copy of the service manual with it. Couldn't dig into it the electrical at that point. I'm going to be sorting through it tonight to see if I can get it figured out. I loaded another copy of it onto my external hard drive, so I'll just steal my sister's laptop.


Lonewolf64
(Obviously the answer is......)
10/05/09 07:41 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

I would check your MPI relay.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/05/09 08:26 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Thats what I was suspecting, but I wasn't sure where it was without having the service manual. Just checked the service manual and I don't recall seeing it by the ECM yesterday, though I do remember an unattached 8-pin connector. Probably attached to the dash, or on my table of interior parts.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/06/09 07:10 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

SHE RUNS!!!

So the MFI relay was still attached to the glovebox bracket sitting in my garage Once in I jumped it and after quite a bit of cranking I finally got it to turn over. Once it warmed up, it idled on its own. Still have quite a few things to sort out before its driveable, but I'm beyond happy that I've made it to this step.


Chad989of2000
(blows both ways and is skilled in magic with any mention of diarrhea)
10/06/09 10:06 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Great work man...looks like it's really coming together, now for the devil in the details work.

Lonewolf64
(Obviously the answer is......)
10/06/09 10:27 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Quoting blue642:

Thats what I was suspecting, but I wasn't sure where it was without having the service manual. Just checked the service manual and I don't recall seeing it by the ECM yesterday, though I do remember an unattached 8-pin connector. Probably attached to the dash, or on my table of interior parts.




Glad to hear it was such a simple problem! Congratulations on your progress. Just keep your patience and steady hand and your car will be boosting in no time.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/06/09 10:45 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Me too. Thanks for all the encouragement and input. Between that and seeing it progress, it really helps stay motivated. Especially now that the weathers going down hill and making it rather unpleasant to work on.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/27/09 09:27 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

So I realize I haven’t updated in a while. Weather has been on and off the last few weeks so progress has been limited. That and lots of other car troubles. VW rear wheel bearing self destructed and rear brakes on my sisters Chrysler which I did in June have apparently been hanging up on the one side and ate through a set of pads and into the rotor. That which I have gotten done has been mostly troubleshooting. AFC wasn’t working (came unplugged from the board inside) and I kept blowing fuse 9 (wire grounding out in engine bay harness) which consumed most of the time.

After I got them figured out I set the base idle (1100-1300rpm surging though it doesn’t surge when the pin is grounded out and occasionally wants to stall when I go lower), adjusted shift linkage, ran wiring for boost and A/F gauges in pod (still need to run EGT which will be in center counsel)

Still have to figure out why the blower isn’t working and radiator fan. Thinking the radiator fan is the resistor pack. I have a spare and am going to wire it in today. Blower is probably a plug that I missed.

I’m going to finish wiring up my gauges in the pod today (was waiting for the paint to dry yesterday) and see if I can get the radiator fan and blower working. I’m going to finish installing the interior too if things go smooth. I know that I am well overdue for pics as I haven’t posted any of the final setup so they’ll be some tomorrow.


chucklesas
(Hogna Carolinensis)
10/27/09 09:47 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Sounds like my idle issues. Good luck with figuring that part out.
The radiator fan has 2 sensors that can turn it on. The fan gets its low speed signal from the temperature switch on the radiator itself. The high speed gets turned on via the temp switch on the back of the thermostat housing. There are also 2 relays that feed the radiator fan. The wiring on those get brittle and break off, then get switched around and confused when trying to put them back together.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/27/09 10:42 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Yeah. I've got a 1g neck with the pressure cap on it since I'm running a scirocco radiator. I replaced the switch that mounts to the radiator/neck yesterday to no avail. I check the wiring when I had the harness out and everything looked in order. I have a few spare relays so I might try switch them out if the resistor pack doesn't do it. If all else fails, I have a stand alone flex-a-lite unit with temp switch and optional manual override as well as adjustable fan speed which I might use and just eliminate all the factory wiring.

chucklesas
(Hogna Carolinensis)
10/27/09 01:20 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

You could at least eliminate the resistor by jumpering over it (just tie the two wires going to it together) if you think that's the problem. To eliminate the switch being the problem just ground the wire going to it. That should help you in your trouble shooting. If it doesn't come on I'd suspect the relays.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/27/09 02:34 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Thanks. I'll try both of those before I go switching things out.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/28/09 06:59 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Didn't get very far before it started raining last night. Jumped the switch and they didn't turn on so I jumped the resistor pack and still nothing. Pulled the relays to check the sockets. Both have constant and the one had switch (second had switch after it got up to temp). Had three relays to try, all three appear to be functioning in other sockets, so they're not the issue. I jumped the fan and it works, so the problem is between the fuse block and the radiator fan. Started raining so thats all the further I got on that project. Also got both of my gauges mounted in the a pillar pod.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
11/02/09 07:58 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

First drive and first major problem made this was a great weekend and a horrible weekend all rolled into one.

Friday- Had off work and one of my good friends came over and helped me finish up the rear brakes, installed the fenders, trim the headlight brackets to clear the intercooler piping, and several other loose ends and then he asked me to be his best man for his wedding. Sweet.

Saturday- Bled the brake system and double checked all the fluids and took her for the first drive since everything went back together. She ran a rich, but ran like a champ until she stalled at a light. Had to bump start to get her running again, but then she ran fine all the way home with no issues for the rest of the evening. I turned it on and off half a dozen times while sorting through some tuning issues, but everything appeared to be sorting out. Lowered the fuel pressure to 36psi base and that appeared to help with the rich situation. Reinstalled the center counsel and called it a night.

Sunday- Came out to take it for another drive and she wouldn’t turn over. Checked everything and couldn’t find anything wrong. Looked in AFC and it had forgotten everything. Reset the sensor and car type and it wouldn’t remember it. After repeating half a dozen times it finally took. Eventually got it to turn over and she ran fine. Got it up to operating temp to tune and made some adjustments. Turned it off and tried to turn back on and it wouldn’t crank over. Swapped plugs and tried again… nothing. It didn’t sound like I was getting any spark this time. By this point it was dark and I was fed up so I called it a night.

Any ideas as to what might have cause it to suddenly stop running overnight, literally?


HertzGalant VR4.org Administrator
(OneTitle to rule them all.)
11/02/09 04:32 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Bad alternator and dead battery?

ECU Capacitors?

Clogged fuel filter?

Bad CAS?

It's not clear to me... is it cranking and just not firing?


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
11/03/09 05:39 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Correct, cranking but not firing. First couple times it sparked but just wouldn't turn over. now it won't even spark, just cranks.
-Its getting fuel. Checked both pressure at rail while cranking and pulled plugs after cranking to make sure the injectors where firing so its not fuel (atleast not a lack of). Plugs were pretty wet after 10 seconds of cranking making me think it might be flooding.
-CAS has be reading to get fuel, correct? Also, the RPM gauge flutters while cranking indicating its getting some signal.
-Checked battery and its fine. It didn't seem to make a difference when I tried to jump it either.
-Alternator shouldn't have any effect until its running should it? Battery had a full charge after I shut it off last time and the headlights were bright while it was running so I doubt it, though its voltage is on the high side while running (14.8-15).
-ECU caps were checked when I was rebuilding everything. The board had been replaced with a non-EPROM unit and it already had new caps soldered in (though I didn't check the part numbers to make sure they were the right ones).

I replaced the no name plug wires with NGKs and closed the gap on the plugs to .028 (from .031-.032, BPR7ES) to see if helped. Nothing. It was raining so I didn't have the chance to troubleshoot any more. I don't have a logger yet, so I haven't gotten the chance to check some of the other common issues (temp sensor, ect.). Got the parental units trying to find the sisters old palm pilot at there house so hopefully I'll have one by the weekend.


dsmless
(gay without homosexual tendencies)
11/04/09 08:45 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

that sounds like the prolem I ran into, change the cas sensor, it should fire right up and then adjust the timing, I had the same problem , fuel, but no spark, its the cam angle sensor, if you have a spare one throw it on or you can probly swap it out to make sure is that

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
11/05/09 06:38 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

Unfortunityly I am getting spark. I've gotten it to start once on sunday and finally again last night since the issue started, and it ran fine once it gets running, but it doesn't want to turn over. My room mate (i/e bum) has a laser and no license so I may steal his and try it anyways. Nothing to loose really.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
11/09/09 08:32 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

So I finally sorted through some ofthe issues and got it running. Still having issues with hot starts, but seems to be consistantly cold starting. Issue ended up being a combinationof little things. MAS signal was because the pin got desocketed inside the AFC, temp wiring ended up being fine, base timing was at TDC, ect. Got all of it adjusted and been driving it for the last couple days. Set the tune for WOT a little rich and finally let it open Going to get the EGT installed so that I can get it tuned in closer, but definitely the fastest car I've driven, and oh so smooth. Only issue is that its hard to stay out of the boost. Comes in low with relitively light throttle and I can't say that I mind.

Here's a link to the troubleshooting thread that I had going.click


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
03/17/10 11:33 AM
Re: 642 rebuild

So... I relized that I never posted finished pics from once everything went in. Its still not running right all the time (start issues). Made a couple changes; GM MAF w/ MAF-T, swapped valve covers (kept scratching the flat black paint), FAL fan controller, and a few other odds and ends. Strut bar isn't in because it just gets in the way while troubleshooting, and the random wire hanging over the engine mount is for EGT which hasn't been installed yet. Going to swap GM MAF for a 2G unit once I make up a wiring adapter. Alternator bearings are going too, so might just do a double and make a relocation bracket for a Saturn/Subaru alternator in the AC location. Going to get rid of the front battery terminal wires and relocate to d-blocks mounted on firewall/behind shock tower.





**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/02/11 04:55 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

So I'm going to revive this thread. Shortly after I posted those finish pics a year ago the turbo(which was on its last leg due to shaft play) blew its seals and and left everything nice and oily. Was still have starting issues as well and its been sitting since...until earlier this week. Finally getting some time to work on it and have gathered parts.

Did a compression test and got 65-40-110-80 Pulled turbo and head on tuesday. Head gasket and cylinder walls looked fine. Valves/seats on the other hand don't look so hot. Whoever had rebuilt that head (PO) did a shitty job. Half the valves didn't appear to even be lapped and a couple appeared bent (pre lap based off of the wear) and you could see light coming through around the edges on a couple when fully seated. Neither pistons or valves showed signs of contact, so guessing it must have happened pre assy or during a timing. Can't believe it ran as well as it did in that condition.
Had a lot of oil in the intake from the turbo. I'll be making sure all the piping and intercooler is thuroughly flushed and clean before it goes back on.

Next is sorting out the slow cranking. Even with the plugs pulled it cranked rediculously slow which I believe is one of the main starting issues. Got to borrow a dial torque wrench from work next week to measure bottom end rotating torque. Also going to double check flywheel teeth count incase they found some random flywheel that fit with a higher teeth count that just so happens to meshed up with our starter (not holding my breath, but nothing would suprise me at this point).
Reassembly after that. Trying to decide if I'm going to attempt to salvage the head, or just get a new one and do a rebuild on it. Leaning towards the latter of the 2. Got an Evo3 16G to replace the retired small 16G. Also got a aeromotive FPR to sort out the wandering fuel pressure issue.

Hopefully they'll be steady progress over the next couple months. Wish me luck


blue642
(Newbie)
07/16/20 04:35 PM
Re: 642 rebuild

Reviving the dead. It's been a while since I've been gone. I can't believe the Galant's been sitting lifeless in my driveway for 9 years

So going back to where this left off, when I pulled the head and discovered the valve seat issues that started down a very bad road for the car. I was going to take it down to our local machine shop which is pretty well known to have the valve redone. When I did the tear down, I found that not only had whoever had rebuilt the head had not lapped the valves, they hadn't cleaned out the oiling holes either. The cams and cam journals were completely destroyed leaving the head totally trashed. It also called into question the the condition of the bottom end as I wasn't sure how much of that debris could have made it into the bottom end. I had a spare 6-bolt short block that needed a rebuild, but replacement heads weren't so cheap, especially without a core. Luckily this all happened before I thrown on my brand new turbo.

At this point I started totaling the cost and knowing how much more I had to put in to 'maybe' get it running caused me to put it on hold. The other big factor was how bad of shape the chassis was in. I never really addressed it on here before, but the chassis had pretty bad cancer on the floorboards/frame rails/body/everywhere. I was aware of this when I got it. I tried to keep most of the valuable goods to thing that could transfer over, but I was loosing interest for all the work which seemingly was going to have a short payout before I'd have to transfer it to a new chassis and potentially restart the troubleshooting again. I wasn't ready to part ways with it just yet, but was still somewhat optimistic that I'd get the itch to finish it eventually.

Fast forward 9 years and its become a reminder of my lack of follow through and a rather big eyesore. Every time I move it the rust outline it leaves gets bigger. This last time, I had to jack it up to break each of the wheels loose before I could move it. I had to re-raise it multiple time on each side since the 3 foot long 2x4 that I'd placed between the jack and frame rail kept sinking in further and further. It's time for it to go. Going to pull off some of the more valuable goodies to sell and then its off the the scrap yard. Another VR-4 gone. Hopefully I'll have some stuff posted for sale shortly so that another can live on a bit longer.

On the positive, it'll be making room for my wife's 55' Chevy which she'll hopefully be inheriting early. It needs a little work, but her brothers got it up and running, just needs a little sorting to make it what we want.



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