boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
01/11/08 10:30 AM
Rear Subframe poly Bushings **comming to a end**

How may people would be interested in these bushing for the rear sub frame.
The will be made out of polyurethane. One soft for street and a harder one for the track.
I should be getting the Prototype in the next few weeks, (will post pics)
The price $140 for all four pieces depending on how people interested.(
It will not be necessary to remove the rear sub frame from the car for the installation of the new one.



CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/11/08 10:45 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

EDIT: misunderstood the part

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/11/08 10:51 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

He isn't offering sway bar-chassis busings.... He's making 'subframe' bushings, the pancake ones. I'd be interested but I just started the process of having them made for me as well so it's a week too late for me to jump on the bandwagon. Nice idea though, those are hard to come by. Did you buy a new OEM unit to get your specs from?

CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/11/08 10:56 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I've got some spare new poly subframe bushings if anyone wants them. PM me and I'll take photos. I believe they're Energy Suspension.

christo
(Member)
01/11/08 11:59 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'd be interested.

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/11/08 12:50 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

I've got some spare new poly subframe bushings if anyone wants them. PM me and I'll take photos. I believe they're Energy Suspension.




I did a fair amount of 'digging' and didn't find ANY subframe bushings for the rear besides Noltec, which I don't think are made any more. You sure you have REAR bushings there and not 4 for the FRONT?


Sr71sss
(Member ++)
01/11/08 12:54 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

+1 for bushings

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/11/08 01:17 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'm in.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/11/08 03:18 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'm in for set.

Sr71sss
(Member ++)
01/11/08 10:20 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I think he means that you can let it hang off the subframe bolt and slip these on and jack it back together.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/14/08 05:41 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

I think he means that you can let it hang off the subframe bolt and slip these on and jack it back together.
KT




I hope not. They won't be in there tight enough if they aren't put in with a press.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
01/14/08 06:17 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

You should be able to get a loner press form auto parts store to install yourself.

Larry Parker
(Rally Member)
01/14/08 07:48 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I have solid delrin in my race car and they seem to be holding up just fine.... I would think that solid is the key for the racers... Also delrin is easy to machine...!

LP


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/14/08 02:58 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

These can also be made out of delrin without a problem but the cost is a little more and they are precision cnc lathed.

Nijasan
(polevault tard)
01/15/08 03:29 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I want some of these ASAP. I have a 1G rear subframe sitting in my garage that I've been putting off installing along with a 4 bolt rear. I was just about to order these bushings in the OEM style.

Also, from what I understand, solid is what you always want when it comes to these. I was even considering a set of those aluminum ones that (I believe) Shearer sells.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
01/15/08 04:11 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The hardest one is going to be out of UHMW.
Which to me is very hard but this will be a little more $$


jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/15/08 04:16 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

It is possible to machine OR pour poly, but you can only machine delrin?

Rausch
(Rock Star Status)
01/15/08 04:50 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Which poly? The etheylenes, propylenes, and urethanes are all manufactured in the same way as the delrins, teflons and others in that they are mixed, but not at level commonly available to the end user. Those, among others, are almost exclusively cast (rough: rods, sheets), and machined down into useable parts.

You could however readily acquire straight urethane (IIRC) and pour it into a mold though.

So long as you had the right dimensions, anyone machine these with a lathe.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/17/08 09:16 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Here's what I've got left:





Energy Suspension bushing numbers read (from top to bottom):
1008
1009
3174

Flat washer-like black pieces on right in second picture read:
1018
1020

Can anyone confirm where these go?


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/17/08 10:04 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

CY - Are there any other numbers on them or do you have the part number that is on that sheet they are laying on? Somethings not matching up.

click

Here is the chart for how to read the part numbers from ES.

Explanation of Set Numbers

Part / Set Number Example- 3.4101-R

Manufacturer-
Example "3"

1- Suzuki
2- Jeep
3- General Motors
4- Ford Co.
5- Chrysler Co. & Mitsubishi
6- Scout/International
7- Nissan/Datsun
8- Toyota
9- Universal Application
10- MG
11- Mazda
12- BMW
13- Ferrari
14- Isuzu
15- Volkswagen
16- Acura & Honda
17- Volvo
18- Saturn
19- Subaru

General Description-
Example "4"

1- Motor & Transmission Mounts
2- Spring Bushings
3- Control Arm Bushings
4- Body Mounts
5- Stabilizer Bar Bushings
6- Spring Isolators & Strut Stops
7- Strut & Tracking Arm Bushings
8- Shock Eyes & End Links
9- Universal Applications
10- Rack & Pinion Bushings
11- Lubricants
12- Apparel: Shirts, Caps
13- Tie Rod & Ball Joint Boots
16- Steering Couplers
18- THE HYPER-FLEX SYSTEMâ„¢ Master Bushing Sets

Set No.-
Example "101"

101
102
104,
etc.

Color-
Example "R"

G- Black
R- Red


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/17/08 11:14 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Maybe they're Prothane? Beats me

christo
(Member)
01/17/08 02:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The only subframe bushings that Energy Susp. makes are for the front. They do not offer them for the rear.

RayH
(Senior Member)
01/17/08 02:48 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

There was a company that made polygraphite bushings for 1G's a few years ago but I don't think they're around anymore. You might have a set of those. Most Energy Suspension bushings I've seen are red.

Actually I think Energy Suspension did make full 1G bushing kits at one time but they've probably discontinued them since they didn't sell well.


Larry Parker
(Rally Member)
01/18/08 06:36 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I have a set of the rear energy units new in the box... they are years old and have been sitting in my garage for some time....

lp


christo
(Member)
01/18/08 07:08 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

I have a set of the rear energy units new in the box... they are years old and have been sitting in my garage for some time....




Gotcha, I thought they only did the front. Could you possibly take a look at them and grab the part numbers off of them?


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/18/08 07:14 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The ones in my photos are circa 2005, so maybe they are ES units.

Larry Parker
(Rally Member)
01/18/08 11:09 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The ones i have are circa late 90's !!!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/19/08 03:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

Here's what I've got left:





Energy Suspension bushing numbers read (from top to bottom):
1008
1009
3174

Flat washer-like black pieces on right in second picture read:
1018
1020

Can anyone confirm where these go?




Cy, I'm in the same boat as Larry, so I just went out and took a peek. 1008 and 1009 are half of the rear subframe bushings, and 3174 is a front control arm bushing. The other half of the rear subframe bushings read 1019 and 1020; double check the stampings. The P/N for the entire rear subframe bushing kit is 5.4105G; hope this helps.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/20/08 11:00 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Thanks Jon. So if anyone wants these bushings, shoot me a PM. I'm thinking $15 per set.

CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
01/20/08 03:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'd be interested in a set front and rear.

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/20/08 05:08 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

Quote:

Here's what I've got left:
Energy Suspension bushing numbers read (from top to bottom):
1008
1009
3174

Flat washer-like black pieces on right in second picture read:
1018
1020

Can anyone confirm where these go?




Cy, I'm in the same boat as Larry, so I just went out and took a peek. 1008 and 1009 are half of the rear subframe bushings, and 3174 is a front control arm bushing. The other half of the rear subframe bushings read 1019 and 1020; double check the stampings. The P/N for the entire rear subframe bushing kit is 5.4105G; hope this helps.




Are you SURE about those part descriptions? Energy suspension actually doesn't make a whole bushing kit for DSMs. Any place that you do buy a "kit" it is simply just a bunch of part numbers thrown in one box. That's why they all come in separate boxes. I ordered a kit from energysuspensiononline.com or something like that, and 54105 was listed as "subframe mnts". I found out very quickly, though, that these bushings were 2 sets intended on the FRONT subframe, not the rear at all. After calling energy suspension and prothane, I found that neither actually made a bushing for the rear subframe. The top two bushings in Cy's pics are front subframe mounds (4 of the 6) by my memory, and the bottom was for the upper control arm in the rear. This could be confirmed if Cy could post a picture of the bushing pulled apart.

Anyways, those were just my findings. Sorry for the thread jack.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/20/08 05:57 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

That bottom bushing doesn't pull apart. It's one piece as the photo shows. The top two have the poly "washer" pulled off, and I've listed the P/Ns I see on them. Please explain exactly how you'd like a picture and I'll take some more.

CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/20/08 06:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Anyone want the extra set of rear swaybar endlink poly bushings I've got?

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/20/08 11:56 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

That bottom bushing doesn't pull apart. It's one piece as the photo shows. The top two have the poly "washer" pulled off, and I've listed the P/Ns I see on them. Please explain exactly how you'd like a picture and I'll take some more.




It sure looks like it pulls apart to me. Why else is there a big groove in the side and multiple layers on one of the ends? It looks like it even has two part numbers.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/21/08 02:33 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

It's one single bushing with a metal tube in the center.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
01/21/08 08:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

Quote:

The P/N for the entire rear subframe bushing kit is 5.4105G; hope this helps.




Any place that you do buy a "kit" it is simply just a bunch of part numbers thrown in one box. That's why they all come in separate boxes. I ordered a kit from energysuspensiononline.com or something like that, and 54105 was listed as "subframe mnts".




Sure looks like one "box" to me. Perhaps the G denotes the rear? It doesn't say front or rear on the package or the instructions though, just subframe.




boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
01/23/08 07:39 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

i need at least 10 pepole to to make this happend.

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/23/08 08:51 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The P/N for the entire rear subframe bushing kit is 5.4105G; hope this helps.




Any place that you do buy a "kit" it is simply just a bunch of part numbers thrown in one box. That's why they all come in separate boxes. I ordered a kit from energysuspensiononline.com or something like that, and 54105 was listed as "subframe mnts".




Sure looks like one "box" to me. Perhaps the G denotes the rear? It doesn't say front or rear on the package or the instructions though, just subframe.







I was referring to the whole 1g kit when I said "kit". I called ES and they told me that their dealers should NOT be selling a whole kit for our cars. Anyways, those look like the bushings I had, same ones Cy has pictured, and would only do 4 of the 6 FRONT subframe mounts. That, and the last bushing in his kit pulls apart and is used for the rear arm.

Sorry to threadjack, Boostx.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/23/08 09:39 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

So I'm going to guess that the big fat bushing at the bottom of my picture is the final set you'll need for the front subframe. DSG only installed rear subframe poly bushings for me back in 2005. So it looks like the ones I've got left will cover the front subframe. Anyone want these, or should I use them to start the next fire in my fireplace?

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/24/08 08:24 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Jesus H Christ. How many times do I have to say that THEY DON'T MAKE rear subframe bushings and until I see pictures of the bushings installed in the rear subframe, I'm going to argue it.

CP, the bushing you have in the BOTTOM of your pic is NOT a rear subframe bushing, it is a 2 PIECE bushing intended for the rear control arm. If you don't believe me still, I searched google for "energy suspension 3174", the part number stamped on one of the pieces of that bushing. Search it on this page and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.


CP
(Still lingering, kinda like a chili and beer fart)
01/24/08 08:39 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The one I've got (pictured on the bottom) is not a 2 piece bushing. It's one solid piece of polyurethane with a metal sleeve through the middle of it.

jepherz
(Too Clean)
01/24/08 08:49 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I can see from your picture that it IS a 2 piece bushing. One bushing has a machined finish on the top, the other is just molded. That, coupled with the fact that there are two part numbers on it, it looks exactly like the one I installed, and almost the same (besides the color) as the one in the link I provided should be enough to tell you otherwise.

PolskiVR4
(Will take advange of children for carbon fiber)
01/24/08 09:35 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Id be in.

Larry Parker
(Rally Member)
01/24/08 09:50 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I was wrong.... I have the front subframe set and the rear control arm set...

Sorry for the mis info


Nijasan
(polevault tard)
01/29/08 12:28 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'm still in.

Nijasan
(polevault tard)
02/22/08 10:07 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Any update on these?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
02/22/08 11:33 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

They are working on it.

CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
02/22/08 12:55 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Do we have an accurate head count for the 10 person minimum,,, or has that been covered?
I'm still in.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
02/22/08 01:18 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

NO ,but i am still getting them made

GHETTOSwing
(Member +)
02/22/08 05:14 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I think these guys are the ones who make the the Polygraphite bushings

P-S-T

If you type Eclipse, eagle, or talon in the Model Search it will bring up all their items for them. For some reason the Sports & Import Polygraphite link/Page goes nowhere useful.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
02/23/08 03:22 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

they do not make the rear one.

TylerAdamson
(circles method)
02/23/08 11:48 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

I think these guys are the ones who make the the Polygraphite bushings

P-S-T

If you type Eclipse, eagle, or talon in the Model Search it will bring up all their items for them. For some reason the Sports & Import Polygraphite link/Page goes nowhere useful.




Any chance of getting these in a solid aluminum piece or maybe some measurements so I can make some/get some made.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
02/24/08 07:02 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

One of the poly ones are going to very hard , but i can get it made from aluminum if you want.

Nijasan
(polevault tard)
02/24/08 10:54 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:

Any chance of getting these in a solid aluminum piece or maybe some measurements so I can make some/get some made.




http://www.shearerfab.com/products.php?itemID=21


TylerAdamson
(circles method)
02/24/08 12:18 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

[Quote=Nijasan]
click class="small">Quote:




Don't feel like paying 450.00 for something I can get made and pay for the cost of materials.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
02/24/08 12:57 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

trust me the price will be a lot less

TylerAdamson
(circles method)
02/24/08 10:20 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Doubt it, I have a buddys who's dad owns several cnc's and could get the work done at cost of materials. Click here

GHETTOSwing
(Member +)
02/25/08 04:48 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quote:


Quote:

I think these guys are the ones who make the the Polygraphite bushings

P-S-T

If you type Eclipse, eagle, or talon in the Model Search it will bring up all their items for them. For some reason the Sports & Import Polygraphite link/Page goes nowhere useful.






Any chance of getting these in a solid aluminum piece or maybe some measurements so I can make some/get some made.





Oh, I'm not actually affiliated with them in any way, I would guess best bet would be to contact them? I just saw that Ray mentioned the company that did the polygraphite's.


vr4play
(handles best on 3 tires)
02/25/08 07:11 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'd be interested in a set of these. I would like to have a set made out of delrin. My car is for racing only.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
03/07/08 09:05 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

i will have the sample in 2 weeks

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
03/27/08 10:09 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Got pics form the manufacturer, these are not to specs so, he said they will have to remade (manufacture defect) . I will have the new ones it in about one to two weeks.

i
I will need a final head count for the group buy.
The cost will be $140 ship for all four Bushings for the group buy.



JSchleim18
(Minor 69er)
03/27/08 10:13 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

I will take a set!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
03/27/08 11:17 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Those look sweet.

dewman
(searches...with eyes closed )
03/27/08 11:31 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

What is the shore of those bushings?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
03/27/08 11:43 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Is a 95a

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
03/28/08 08:13 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Are those sleeved, or just a bushing?


How are the secured in the subframe?


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
03/28/08 10:01 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

They are just the bushing. you will need a big G clamp to press them in. When the subframe is bolted up it will be secured in place..

Wizardawd
(Senior Member)
03/28/08 08:15 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Count me in for a set.

Wiz


bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
03/28/08 09:01 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

I might be interested in a set! Going to be doing a 4 bolt swap (still need to find some good condition cups) and might as well right?

stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
03/29/08 10:25 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

John, that subframe you sold me, those bushings were garbage right? If so im in for a set.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
03/31/08 08:05 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Quoting Boostx:

They are just the bushing. you will need a big G clamp to press them in. When the subframe is bolted up it will be secured in place..





Without a sleeve, will that keep them in the subframe?

I'm only asking this because of the fitment issues with the Noltec pieces. Depending on the car, you could wack them in with a rubber mallet. That wasn't tight enough though, they needed to be shimmed and pressed in with a press.

If they aren't in there really tight, they will move up and down. Without a sleeve, I'd bet the urethane wouldn't last that long.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
03/31/08 10:04 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

It will have to reuse the metal sleeve in the center of the old busing ( i am trying to get new metal sleeve) . Also when you tighten the bolt up the bushing will expand and get locked into place.
This is what the old bushing when removed looks like.



boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/01/08 10:31 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

This is the list of who has show interest in the group buy.

The cost will be $140 ship for all four Bushings.
Retail cost will be $188
This sale will run for a 30 days or when the first 25 is sold.
They should be ready to ship in about 2 to 3 weeks; prototype is currently being test now.


1 christo
2 FQVR4
3 UtahGalant
4 Garfield Wright
5 CmanorVr4
6 CP
7 PolskiVR4
8 Nijasan
9 vr4play
10 JSchleim18
11 Wizardawd
12 bustedsm
13 stealthtt24
14 thetuna909


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/01/08 10:42 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Great work John. Can't wait.

JSchleim18
(Minor 69er)
04/01/08 10:46 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Yeah same here...when will payment be due? Once you get them in your hands?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/01/08 10:59 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

yea once i have them in my hand

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/01/08 11:22 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)





**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/01/08 11:55 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Looks like a sweet design.

JUANPSI
(Senior Member)
04/01/08 11:59 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Count me in

1 christo
2 FQVR4
3 UtahGalant
4 Garfield Wright
5 CmanorVr4
6 CP
7 PolskiVR4
8 Nijasan
9 vr4play
10 JSchleim18
11 Wizardawd
12 bustedsm
13 stealthtt24
14 thetuna909
15 JUANPSI


dime2nr
(Member ++)
04/01/08 11:50 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

im sooo in for a set

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/02/08 12:04 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

For the record this is for the 4 mounting points on the rear subframe correct?



jepherz
(Too Clean)
04/02/08 01:12 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Looks to me like it takes place of only the front 2, Garfield.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/02/08 08:13 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Quoting Garfield Wright:

For the record this is for the 4 mounting points on the rear subframe correct?







The subframe bushings are only the ones in the front.

The mustache bushings hold up the pinion in the rear; then the shocks.

There are only 6 bolts holding the subframe in the rear of the car.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/02/08 08:51 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Quoting Garfield Wright:

For the record this is for the 4 mounting points on the rear subframe correct?






sorry Garfield i am wrong it only needs two


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/02/08 09:05 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

They are going to be green in color..
Green is the faster color


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/02/08 05:26 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Hey thats my rear end.....I would love to get a set of thoes, Ive been wanting to replace them forever but couldnt fine them anywhere, mine are so rotted.

CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
04/02/08 05:38 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Ahhh, the time is near,,,the weather is beginning to break too,,,,YES!!!!

Nijasan
(polevault tard)
04/03/08 12:08 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

What's your paypal info? I'll send you cash with 3% now so I don't forget and miss it later.

Barnes
(Firechicken)
04/03/08 11:59 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

You can count me in!

skivittlerjimb
(Senior Member)
04/04/08 04:45 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Yeah, I'm down for a set. The rear end of mine needs toe bushings, upper mounts, etc. anyway. May as well do this at the same time.

Thanks!

-Jim B.
280/1000


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/05/08 10:47 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

This is the count as of 4/6
1 christo
2 FQVR4
3 UtahGalant
4 Garfield Wright
5 CmanorVr4
6 CP
7 PolskiVR4
8 Nijasan
9 vr4play
10 JSchleim18
11 Wizardawd
12 bustedsm
13 stealthtt24
14 thetuna909
15 JUANPSI
16 BarnesMobile
17 skivittlerjimb
18 gvr4-27
19 dime2nr
20 Impulse_boosted
21 galant344
22 Gvr4-330
23 Ajay
24 b00st33d
25 Chrisco


Gvr4-330
(I feel of the short bus)
04/06/08 02:48 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Put me in for a set.

Thanks!
Rob


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/06/08 07:06 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

From Mad scientist Curtis
Ok guys I've been helping John with this from the engineering stand point. I called him earlier to give him the final build them verdict. The pictures below takes you through the process and only took 20 minutes or so to do. I recommend doing this off the car. Nothing worst than drilling and cut on your back with hot rubber and metal flying.

First picture. A good rear bushing in perfect shape....poor car had never been driven the way it was meant to.



First thing I did was cut the outer most part of rubber from around the edge so to secure this in a vice to show the amount of deflection in the part even when it has no cracks or rips in the rubber.



Now I thought I can slip a piece of pipe in the original subframe but after it was locked in the vice I noticed its super weak in both directions so I used a 10 inch pair of vice grips. As you can see the bushing rolls right over and has no support. The two half moon pieces in the above pictures are steel and give it something to cushion against but only after 30 or more degrees of movement..... I know for a fact mine are totally shot so I'm sure its way worst than this in heavy load conditions.




Now for the business end of the post. The removal of the suck factory rubber bushing. I used no special tools nothing that can't be aquired locally for who ever buys these from John.

Drill with a 15/64 bit. Just what was laying on the bench. Any bit around this size will work. The rubber isn't all the way around but just in two small radiused areas 180 out from each other they probably take up 45 degrees on each opposing sides total. Insert said bit and get after it. I put it in at and angle and move up and down to rip through the stuff. Total time 3 minutes maybe. Now take out the center piece with the steel bushing. This is what it will look like.





Now with this removed you have a 1/16 to 1/8 inch layer of rubber to deal with. I chucked up a cut of /grinding wheel in a mandrel and started after it. After 30 seconds I said forget this It works ...to expedite the situation I broke out the torch and burnt out the remanding rubber. Took about 5 mins to burn it all off. A large hole saw could also be used to cut away on the inside.
DO NOT USE A TORCH WHILE THE SUBFRAME IS STILL IN THE CAR OR UNDER IT....BEING DEAD WILL SUCK
Remember the torch can ignite fumes from the gas tank and will create one large explosion.

Picture with how the grinding wheel treated the rubber







Now after the torch I used these. 90 degree die grinder with a sand pad for the outside edge and inside I used a normal die grinder with a cartridge roll same used for porting heads. You want need all this a dremal with a sanding drum, a drill with a sanding drum or just the grinding wheel will do what this did but I had an auction ending on ebay I was watching so I needed to hurry. This is what it looks like with the rubber gone and ready for install.





Now if you look at the picture of the cartridge roll ...Look deep inside the hole you'll notice that theres a shadow inside the top of the subframe assembly this is because from the factory they build the subframe then the bushing itself has a metal jacket. The jacket is formed then the rubber is vulcanized to the jacket with the steel bushing placed in the middle. The jacket in this is NOT TO BE REMOVED. Now the jacket has a small rounded leading edge so it aligns and falls into place when the subframe was original built...This is a good think. Me and John discussed this and it actually helped with the installation of the new polyurethane bushings. The poly bushing goes in 80% of the way by hand the last little bit slows down because the metal jacket gets smaller and radius out. This is what holds the poly bushing in place.



Now I used a bench vice to tighten this into the subframe end. A large bolt and some pieces of steel with an impact would work just as well. An entire subframe is a little to bulky to be taking to the shop across town to press these in.
Now the steel bushing. It was cut off the interpiece saved from above. Razor blade and wirewheel works for this. As the bushing goes in it actually pushes out on the polyurethane. This continues to help lock these in the subframe.

So there in all the way this is what it will look like as you put it in. Theres an 1/8 inch or so left between the bushing and the subframe piece ...this is fine. Remember the steel jacket radiuses outward. When the bolt is throught the middle and the nut installed this will help draw it in then when the car is lowered down on the ground it will go into its final home. There would be no way possible to engineer this bushing without this and if it doesn't seat and slide in all the way its not going to hurt a thing. The tolerance on a rubber bushing jacket leading edge is probably not very tight so we could have cut up 10 different subframes and found that everyone is different. We could have made the bushing a little shorter but this would have been detrimental to the tight snug fit what was acheved by having the bushing crushed it tight.

As for removing the jacket and building to fit that. You wouldn't want the hassle of removing the inter jacket remember it was pressed in and has 18 years of rust locking it into position.

Now as for the picture with the final deflection like I started with. Yea right...There is maybe a 1/16 of an inch but thats pulling like I'm tearing the work bench off the wall.

Glad I was able to help John with all of this...Shows what a little research and time can do when you think outside the box. Hope everyone on the list above enjoys the effort and thought that were put into these pieces. Enjoy.





My best guess would be about 3 to 4 hours for the average joe to remove the subframe slide it out and install these. The actual install and removal should only take about an hour. I used a wore out drill bit and a almost gone grinding wheel just to prove it could be done with worn out stuff and nothing special was needed.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/06/08 07:14 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I will know by Wednesday when i will have them and can give a ship date ,then after that i will start accepting payment.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/06/08 07:58 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Please put me in for a set as well. Thanks!

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
04/06/08 08:10 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Looks like John posted up my message. These are the sweetness can't wait to hear the reviews especially from the real rally guys and track warriors.


Anyway looks like 2 slots left. Best hurry up and post.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/06/08 08:21 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'm very excited about this!!!

b00st33d
(Member)
04/06/08 08:23 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

put me in the list

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/06/08 09:28 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'm slightly confused as to how many bushings, in total, this is going to include. It looks to me like just the front two, so does that mean that the price is varied from the quoted $140 earlier in the thread?

I'd like to get in on this too if there are still slots available. My bushings are GONE.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/07/08 06:43 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The bushing is in two separate pieces.






**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/07/08 11:00 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Thank you for the clarification, that makes much more sense.

Is there still room in the group buy? If so I'd like to order a set of these.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/07/08 11:36 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

You are the last one on the list Chrisco

CO VR4
(Senior Member)
04/07/08 11:37 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

This is a nice option for anyone who is needing a set. I've got a set stashed away that was CNC'd from Delrin by a guy who was selling 10 sets on DSMTalk awhile back. I got his last set, but the prices were alittle more than BoostX is getting these for. Looks like a nice option.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/07/08 11:53 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

This is the count as of 4/6
1 christo
2 FQVR4
3 UtahGalant
4 Garfield Wright
5 CmanorVr4
6 CP
7 PolskiVR4
8 Nijasan
9 vr4play
10 JSchleim18
11 Wizardawd
12 bustedsm
13 stealthtt24
14 thetuna909
15 JUANPSI
16 BarnesMobile
17 skivittlerjimb
18 gvr4-27
19 dime2nr
20 Impulse_boosted
21 galant344
22 Gvr4-330
23 Ajay
24 b00st33d
25 Chrisco





The group buy quota has been reach..
will keep you all posted


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/07/08 07:49 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

They said they would be ready in about two to three weeks, if this is so I should be able to ship on the week of 4/28
I will start accepting payment now.
My payapl is [email protected]
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR USER NAME FROM HERE IN THE PAYAPL COMMENTS


b00st33d
(Member)
04/08/08 02:05 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

john, could you verify the price? does that include paypal fees?

Gvr4-330
(I feel of the short bus)
04/08/08 06:37 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

paypal sent. Thanks!

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/08/08 08:40 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting b00st33d:

john, could you verify the price? does that include paypal fees?



yes i did forget to add the $4 for the payapl fee.
so the fee is on me for this week next week its on you all...


stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
04/08/08 11:21 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

hey john whats the official price? you might wanna update the first post too ill send it in the next week, thanks mark

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/08/08 12:34 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The price is $140 for the group buy

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/10/08 09:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got five Twenty to go

bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
04/10/08 09:27 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'll be sending money here in the next couple days, new job = moh money!

vr4play
(handles best on 3 tires)
04/10/08 10:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Are these still available in hard and soft? I still want the harder ones.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/10/08 10:50 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

At this point it only the hard.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/11/08 11:21 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Payment Sent.

CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
04/11/08 12:35 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Payment sent !!!!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/11/08 01:56 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Forgot to ask and didn't see it mentioned recently, about when were these going to be shipped out?

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/11/08 05:23 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

They said they would be ready in about two to three weeks, if this is so I should be able to ship on the week of 4/28
I will start accepting payment now.
My payapl is [email protected]
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR USER NAME FROM HERE IN THE PAYAPL COMMENTS




Kenny_Kline
(belligerent idiot)
04/12/08 12:24 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

what do you benifit from using these bushings?

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/12/08 03:15 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I'll have money for you next weekend. Thanks for getting these made up. It's much appreciated!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/12/08 05:17 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Garfield Wright:

Quoting Boostx:

They said they would be ready in about two to three weeks, if this is so I should be able to ship on the week of 4/28
I will start accepting payment now.
My payapl is [email protected]
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR USER NAME FROM HERE IN THE PAYAPL COMMENTS







haha, thanks. sometimes I'm a little dense.


vr4play
(handles best on 3 tires)
04/12/08 10:19 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

paypal sent

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/13/08 04:26 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Is it too late to order a set, or could I get in on this?

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
04/13/08 10:29 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting krkline2gdsm:

what do you benifit from using these bushings?





Look above at the post from Boostx that he copied and pasted from my PM. Look at the amount of deflection in the assembly. What it does in a nut shell is perfectly locate the subframe under the car during High loading in the corners or launches. The main problem with traction loss is the car shifing around above the tires. The other thing this fixes is worn out ripped bushings that are worst than when the cars were new.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/13/08 11:25 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Qship:

Is it too late to order a set, or could I get in on this?



All the set in the group by is spoken for, when I am ready to ship I have not receive payment or someone blackout that spot will be up for grab.
The list is at the top of page 4 =paid and i am constantly updating the status.


skivittlerjimb
(Senior Member)
04/14/08 12:45 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Paypal sent. Thanks!

stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
04/14/08 03:07 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

im still in just a little broke at the moment...

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/14/08 04:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

Quoting Qship:

Is it too late to order a set, or could I get in on this?



All the set in the group by is spoken for, when I am ready to ship I have not receive payment or someone blackout that spot will be up for grab.
The list is at the top of page 4 =paid and i am constantly updating the status.




Cool. Please put me in the wait-list then for the next available set.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/15/08 11:48 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Got word today, I should have them next week..

acustark
(Member)
04/16/08 04:54 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Please put me on your standby list. Sometimes the manufacturer makes extras to cover anomalies. LMK

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/18/08 09:10 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Payment is due in 4/20/2008 midnight.

JSchleim18
(Minor 69er)
04/18/08 09:24 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Payment sent!

christo
(Member)
04/18/08 09:56 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

Payment sent.

Any chance you might do the mustache brace bushings as well?


stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
04/18/08 12:02 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (** pics** pics**)

ill send it before the deadline john!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/19/08 04:33 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Payment sent.

gtluke
(Fegbasket)
04/19/08 04:35 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

put me on the standby list please

bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
04/20/08 11:05 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Sorry John, going to have to pass on the $140 unfortunately

Finances haven't been too great here lately, oh well!



**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/20/08 11:42 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Payment sent 4/20/08 8:37 PST

Any chance that I can purchase #12 on the list busteddsm's spot for bushings as well?
And anybody else that will not be able to pay for there spot and are going to give up there spot, please let me know, I need a few sets,thanks


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/24/08 04:26 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Update
They are on its way to me


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/24/08 07:27 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings



cobrajetguy
(Doppleganger)
04/25/08 09:32 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Put me on the standby list, I would definately take a set if one is available.

Peter


ggsxkid
(teh UBer FAIL)
04/25/08 10:06 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

put me down on the waiting list as i would definately take a set!!!

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/25/08 04:15 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

shipping will be done on Monday



Green= the faster color


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/25/08 04:19 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Woohoo!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/25/08 05:52 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

It's always nice to see custom jobs fulfilled

Wizardawd
(Senior Member)
04/25/08 09:36 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Perfect timing, I just got my old rear end dropped.

Wiz


Romanova
( the coolest person to ever post in the past 2 hours)
04/25/08 11:15 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Wow, I missed the boat on these. If anyone flakes, I takes!

christo
(Member)
04/26/08 03:06 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Boostx,

Those look sweet, can't wait to get them.

Would you consider doing the Mustache brace bushings as well?


CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
04/26/08 03:36 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, what do you say to that?????? Now that would complete the package.

Gvr4-330
(I feel of the short bus)
04/26/08 06:18 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Uh oh... That green is going to clash with my blue Noltecs!

I can't wait to get mine. Thanks!

Rob


vr4play
(handles best on 3 tires)
04/26/08 08:02 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I too would be interested in a set for the mustache bar bushings.

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
04/26/08 09:21 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Glad you Guys like the Fastest color.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
04/30/08 09:40 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Just an up date, I have been sick like a dog the last few days, , so I have been home in bed.
I will try to start so ship them out by Friday.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
04/30/08 12:43 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Get well! We can't have any resident engineers on sick leave, there's work to be done!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/06/08 06:32 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Any updates on shipping?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/07/08 06:46 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I have been sick but they are boxed up and ready to ship via dhl,

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/07/08 12:38 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

PMed you.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/08/08 05:26 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

hey just found this thread and had to sign up. ive got a 92 talon with the rear subframe out for the past 1.5 years. I REALLY NEED THESE BUSHINGS to get the car back on the road. can i get in on this? if not where can i get them retail? thanx

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/08/08 01:21 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Fo yu, SPECHAL PICE!

Wetail pwus tirty percnt!


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/08/08 01:46 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

no offense but DHL is the absolute WORST most unprofessional POS shipping company ive EVER delt with!!! goodluck..

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/10/08 08:58 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Yes, frankly DHL can E.A.D, they sub-contract delivery company's to deliver there packages, or the used too. Bad experiences with the delivery dates and professionalism on many occasions.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/10/08 11:17 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

They have all been shiped.I never had a problen with DHL.
.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/11/08 11:03 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

boostx, do you have anymore of those bushings?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/12/08 07:58 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Hey 92talon i have some more for sale by the end of the week..

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/12/08 01:30 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

ur a life saver

CmanorVr4
(Member +++)
05/13/08 10:37 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

DHL is alright in my book, received my bushings today! In a big yellow and red DHL truck with a big ass driver too,,,,lol!!!

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/13/08 11:06 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

one down many to go

stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
05/13/08 11:27 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

hey john let me know when i can come over and pick my set up

skivittlerjimb
(Senior Member)
05/14/08 12:04 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got mine today. Thanks! Don't think I'm going to attempt the install myself, though. My meager skills, paltry tool box, and lack of a good garage means I'm in for a reaming from the one or two shops around here that I know will do a good job putting these in along with a host of other rear bushings on this car.

-Jim B.
280/1000


curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
05/14/08 07:52 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Jim as long as you have a drill, a large c clamp and a few attachments for the drill you can do it. The test piece I did for John was on the bench but only took about 20 minutes total. I pressed it in dry but you could use rtv or windsheild urethane to aid in the pressing in part. This will cure inside and help fill small voids etc.


I will add press the new poly bushing in first then press the steel bushing inthe middle that you have to reuse from the factory set-up. This helps lock everything into position.

Also the subframe is built separate from the bushing assembly from the factory. The bushing is built with a steel sleeve with the inter steel bushing and the two steel halfmoons balanced into position as the rubber is vulcanized to them. Do not remove the outer steel sleeve. The new bushings are designed to use these and want fit if the intersleeve is cut out.


JSchleim18
(Minor 69er)
05/14/08 08:03 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got mine yesterday...thanks John!

Travw3911
(Newbie)
05/14/08 08:24 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

Hey 92talon i have some more for sale by the end of the week..



If you have any left overs or are going to order another set let me know please!


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/14/08 09:04 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I will have some more very soon.

belize1334
(well bread and nobly conceived)
05/14/08 12:40 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

...so that's a no for the mustache brace?

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
05/14/08 08:05 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

^I'm trying to get to the measurement stage for the mustache brace. Its a no win situation pressing them out without a special fixture so they will install same as the big bushings. drill and clean and press in. Hoping for tomorrow giving John a call with specs.

Wizardawd
(Senior Member)
05/14/08 09:01 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got mine today....ty sir.

Wiz


b00st33d
(Member)
05/14/08 09:02 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

got mine today also...

christo
(Member)
05/15/08 08:33 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got mine, thanks.

Glad to hear y'all are working on the mustache brace as well.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/15/08 12:11 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

i also want to say thanks to Ian/digit for his input on this, is not all me

Gvr4-330
(I feel of the short bus)
05/15/08 10:39 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I hope mine come soon. I'm much closer than CA

Rob


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/15/08 10:57 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Got mine yesterday. Thanks to all that made this happen! Much appreciated!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/16/08 01:55 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

i also want to say thanks to Ian/digit for his input on this, is not all me




You might not want to tell many people that or the sales will go down!


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/19/08 07:32 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

any word on the extra bushings yet?

LILEVO
(LIL EVO's back :-))
05/19/08 09:19 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I would be interested in additional bushings as well.

stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
05/20/08 12:08 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I got mine on sunday from john and I think he has a few extras that will be for sale soon, when he has time to put them up. He said he has quite a few left so don't worry guys you will get your chance!

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/20/08 11:53 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Ok i started the process for getting the mustache brace bushing made. I should be getting the prototype soon.

Here we go again


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/22/08 08:25 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The rear mustache brace bushing should be done in about two to three weeks.
Those who was a the group by will have priority on the new bushing and get it at very very discounted price
I am not 100% sure of the cost yet.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/22/08 08:27 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

Existing Galant vr4 members price for the Rear Subframe ones is $177 shipped.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/22/08 01:16 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

Just got mine in the other day. They look great, can't wait to install!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
05/22/08 03:31 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

I'm down for some mustache brace bushings.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
05/23/08 07:15 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

Quoting Boostx:

Existing Galant vr4 members price for the Rear Subframe ones is $177 shipped.






Nijasan
(polevault tard)
05/23/08 09:46 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

Quoting UtahGalant:

I'm down for some mustache brace bushings.




Me too.


Wizardawd
(Senior Member)
05/24/08 12:37 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

Count me in for the other bushings too then.

Wiz


b00st33d
(Member)
05/24/08 01:49 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings (* pics*) $177 shipped

i'll sign up i guess...

Kenny_Kline
(belligerent idiot)
05/31/08 02:20 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I need to replace my rear subframe bushings.

Can I get in on this buy?


curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
06/01/08 10:43 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

John I emailed krkline2gdsm already

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
06/06/08 10:37 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

The rear mustache brace bushing should be done in about two to three weeks.
Those who was a the group by will have priority on the new bushing and get it at very very discounted price
I am not 100% sure of the cost yet.




Just an update , The prototype are been made for fitting and testing purposes.
So it will be done soon .


christo
(Member)
06/06/08 11:19 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Nice, looking forward to it. Green I hope, I would hate not to match.

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
06/06/08 03:55 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I have 5 sets left on ebay right now so if any of you guys are members over in the dsm rooms post them up for us. John needs the mold paid for. Thanks

medic
(Junior Member)
06/20/08 09:53 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Just got mine in today! They look awesome! Now if I could only find the time to install them...hehe

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
07/15/08 10:13 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The rear mustache brace bushing are been tested now so I should have an answer very soon.
I wil have them in 2 to 3 weeks






**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/05/08 09:53 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Any word on when those mustache brace bushings will be shipped?

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
08/05/08 10:58 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Talked to John other day and the mold guy is saying shipping this week but no news yet I'm planning on calling tomorrow so will post an update for everyone.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
08/06/08 06:54 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

They are in transit.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
08/14/08 07:54 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I am still awaiting delivery of the bushing. I will be contacting them to find out what’s the status.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
08/25/08 11:09 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

NEWS FLASH
Got a partial shipmen of bushing this morning, I will start shipping them this week..
Thanks all..


stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
08/25/08 12:12 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

John I will be getting those pics tonight, I realized my g/f had the camera on her cruise and just returned today and the pics were on there...

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
09/04/08 11:44 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Those who are waiting Mustache brace bushing, they have been shipped

christo
(Member)
09/04/08 12:23 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Nice!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/04/08 04:19 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

In response to the effect of the rear subframe bushings, these things are AWESOME. Install takes more time than had been previously mentioned earlier in the thread (realistically, with an 18 year old car the original bushings are going to be completely shot and are a bitch to remove if you don't have a torch) but is still fairly simple. I did it on jack stands in the garage and installed two new ebrake cables, and sandblasted all of the nuts and bolts that were removed before reinstallation and the total time actually spent working on the vehicle was probably closer to 8 hours. Note, I wasn't hurrying myself too much, but you have to remember that while working on jack stands by yourself, removing the exhaust, driveshaft, and rear subframe can be a bit of a hassle if you're trying not to destroy anything including avoiding snapping/stripping old rusted nuts and bolts.


But back to the good stuff. These bushings made a world of difference on my car. Just by installing these it stiffened up the rear so much compared to the original bushings, it feels like a whole new car. I would STRONGLY advise use of these bushings to anyone and everyone who owns one of these cars.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
09/04/08 04:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

So where are the pics

Flip4G63
(Den Mother)
09/04/08 04:30 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

i really need to order the full set for the rear.

i'm just waiting for the rear end install. lol dont want to be in there 2 times.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/07/08 05:03 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

So where are the pics




I only got one picture of the subframe right after I took it out so it's not of much use. My camera died and I didn't feel like waiting for the battery to charge to finish the project.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/07/08 05:24 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Just got done making my bushings, used Derlin. took about 2 hours on the lathe.

scot ">
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**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/07/08 05:27 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

sorry try this again..

scot





**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/07/08 07:14 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

How about pictures of that mustache brace.

Delrin was thought of as a material before these bushings were made but it was agreed upon by most of the market these are geared to that it would be too rough of a ride. However BoostX can have these made in delrin by request.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/07/08 09:19 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Here you go. (by the way this stuff is going in a mirage)

scot




curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
09/08/08 10:45 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

For what you did delrin will be fine but to mass produce these in delrin would lead to bad results. As you probably saw every id of the braces would have to be dead perfect, which there not, and be able to be pressed in. Out of every bushing I checked none had the same measurement so the high durometer polyurethane was used so it can be pressed in and expand and hold position without wear of the steel and also the material weeks or years later.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/08/08 10:54 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Curtis needs to post a video of the mustache brace bushing installed vs. the oem bushing. There's so much movement/play with the factory bushing I was astonished. I suspected there would be some movement but when you can put the mustache brace in a vice, pull on it & have it move ~3-4" in either direction that's not good. Imagine how much more it moves when you launch or turn hard .

He then proceeded to show me the difference in movement with the Boostx/Curtis engineered poly busing & agin I was astonished. This time, there was barely any noticable movement either way. I will be changing out my 4 bushings for these poly ones.


Eighty9TSI
(touché)
09/08/08 12:32 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I will definately take a set. Do I contact directly via this thread?

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
09/08/08 04:12 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

^give John a PM I have 3 sets of subframes here still and waiting for the 3 sets of mustache brace ones to sell as sets. The vendor screwed the order and only sent a few instead of the amount we wanted.

Eighty9TSI
(touché)
09/08/08 06:08 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Alrighty, sounds good, I definately would like all the bushings possible since I am putting them all in a subframe I have sitting here for my 4 bolt swap/4ws delete.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/08/08 11:36 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Are there any of these still available? I need subframe and mustache.

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
09/09/08 06:46 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Yes they are.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
09/09/08 09:24 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I will buy a set.

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
09/09/08 10:34 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

^Send John a PM

JSchleim18
(Minor 69er)
09/09/08 10:36 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I received my other sets of rear subframe and mustache bushings yesterday. Can't wait to get them in!

Thanks so much to everyone involved in getting these pieces in order! Great job John!


DailyDSM
(2013)
09/09/08 10:58 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Just to clarify, $177 is for both the rear subframe bushings and mustache bushings?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
09/09/08 03:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I have ordered a second set of bushings and a larger amount which help lower the cost also there is no tooling cost.
The price has since been reduced to $164 for all four ship , which is good for those that have not purchased any as yet but bad for those who already have.

So, those who have already purchased bushings in the group buy, contact me for special pricing on a second set. I had no plans on placing a second order, but am just trying to be fair to all.


bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
09/09/08 03:21 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Hey John, I'm interested in a set of subframe bushings and mustache brace bushings as well, how much total shipped to 63141 and about how long do you think the turn around time would be? Just got a good set of 4 bolt cups and want to put the diff in as soon as possible.

Thanks!


curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
09/09/08 05:57 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I just talked to John and we're expecting delivery of the mustache ones next week.

bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
09/09/08 06:20 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Those would be easier to install in comparison to the subframe bushings with the differential and frame installed on the car already...have a set of the subframe bushings ready to deliver and possibly pay for all now and have you guys deliver the mustache brace set later (when you receive them)?

strokin4dr
(fighting them with a large needle)
09/09/08 07:03 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

The price has since been reduced to $164 for all four ship



I will take a set. How do I pay?


Luke
(Senior Member)
09/09/08 09:08 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:


The price has since been reduced to $164 for all four ship , which is good for those that have not purchased any as yet but bad for those who already have.





I will take a set as well. All four means the mustache bushings plus the rear subframe bushings, right ?


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
10/05/08 09:03 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The rest of these are going on ebay..

stealthtt24
(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)
10/05/08 11:03 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Hey john do you still have one for me? I need to come by and get that and some other stuff ian gave you, PM me on how much the mustache brace is for me to be picked up.

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
10/08/08 11:59 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

hey just read the thread i really need a set of these like asap i sent you an email let me know

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
10/09/08 09:20 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Helpful hint for getting these out......

Really great advice haven't tried it yet but I'm sure I will.....

HOW TO Click me


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
10/09/08 09:30 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting 90dsmtsi:

hey just read the thread i really need a set of these like asap i sent you an email let me know



Click


strokin4dr
(fighting them with a large needle)
10/09/08 12:29 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting Boostx:

The price has since been reduced to $164 for all four ship




Will you still do it for this price?


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
10/28/08 10:30 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I am getting ready to order the LAST set of these, so if you want let me know..

strokin4dr
(fighting them with a large needle)
10/28/08 06:39 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting strokin4dr:

Quoting Boostx:

The price has since been reduced to $164 for all four ship




Will you still do it for this price?




HHIVR4
(Aluminum Lung)
10/28/08 06:46 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Ill take a set..I dont know what the PO put in (They are blue) but they have shit the bed and are pretty much gone..Everytime I jack the car up more falls out..

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
11/09/08 02:13 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

The rest will be on ebay.CLICK

Barnes
(Firechicken)
11/09/08 04:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Is it possible to get just the mustache brace bushings?

14u2nV
(Resident Pedobear)
11/09/08 05:22 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Curious to whether or not mine got sent and how. I sent a message to you the other day, with no response. It's been two weeks?

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
11/10/08 09:50 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Barnes you get only the mustache brace bushings is you want.
Kenneth it should be getting it one day this week. I have the tracking # form the USPS if you want.


bustedsm
(trying to feel really special)
11/10/08 10:01 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Only ones left on eBay? If not, paypal address again for $174 shipped..

boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
11/10/08 10:05 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Sent you a pm

4thStroke
(Spence knows tools)
11/10/08 07:30 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

It appears they are also on tunersnation.com

medic
(Junior Member)
11/11/08 12:26 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Any word on when my Mustache bushings will be shipped? I'll send another PM to remind you guys I still need them...
Thanks,
~Medic


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
11/11/08 12:51 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

send you a pm

curtis
(Space Blanket from NASA plumbed into the attic)
11/11/08 02:32 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

Quoting 4thStroke:

It appears they are also on tunersnation.com




Same bushings same supplier.
Garfield Wright ownz tunersnation and he got them from John.
I had one set left and there going to Vinny so I'm out.


boostx
(On The Wrong Side. )
12/05/08 10:19 AM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

bump

fivestardsm
("Savior of the damned and dis-owned")
01/26/09 06:04 PM
Re: Rear Subframe polyurethane Bushings

I know this has been a while here, but did you ever come up with the metal inserts so we dont have to re-use our old ones?

talontyme
(Member +)
03/16/09 02:14 PM
Re: Rear Subframe poly Bushings **comming to a end**

Are the subframe and mustache bushings still avaliable? I need these asap you have pm.

VR4Scott
(Squeezed Member)
08/12/09 09:41 AM
Re: Rear Subframe poly Bushings **comming to a end**

Bump for other sites looking for these

**DONOTDELETE**
(Unregistered)
08/13/09 12:26 AM
Re: Rear Subframe poly Bushings **comming to a end**

I need a set as well if anyone knows where to get them.


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