(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/07/11 06:50 PM

FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

Finished all previous orders and have 10 left over for sale. PM me with a request and i will start removing the keys i have left till i hit 0.

once that is done i will make an order for more keys and then i will make them and start a for sale thread again.

thank you everyone for all the support and purchases. hope everyone enjoyed this and is happy with there keys.

so i got an email from a member and he asked me to make him the evo flip key that i made for my last car. well i have to buy the flip key and i figure ill wait a week or two and see if i can get like 15 or more people to order the keys and make the mod for a bunch of members. this is what mine looked like after i was finished.

if anyone is interested, im going to wait 1 week to see if i get interest.

Brunoboy

(Jesus Clips)

11/07/11 07:02 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Shane, Id like one, would it be $15 plus shipping or shipped? LMK Whats up! lol
-Shane

564vr4

(flob)

11/07/11 07:11 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I'm in if you make them. Just let me know price. I don't always check this as often as I should so email is the fastest way to let me know. Actually I want 2.

dammitjim

(Member +)

11/07/11 07:42 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I'm in

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citymunky

(Fake Title)

11/07/11 07:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Me Too

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transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/07/11 07:51 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

ill do them for 20 shipped with a brand new blank mit-1 inserted in the flip key, what im trying to do is get enough people together that want them then you guys send me the money so i can buy all the flip keys and all the blank keys then ill cut them and put them together then send you back a evo flip key with a 1g blank inserted instead of the evo insert. thats why i want to get 15 people to do it so i can get a deal on the flip key. there like 15$ and then the blank is like 3-5$ but if i can get enough people to buy maybe i can get the flip keys for 8 and the blanks for 2 or 3 and be able to send them. im not trying to make money on it im just doing this because i think its an awesome idea and if people are pumped on it then ill help them out for as cheap as i can. if you have a key cut and send it to me ill do it for 15 shipped back to you. the reason i want to have 15 or so buy is so i can buy like 20-25 of the flip keys and if anyone else wants one i can have them laying around and make it fast and at the same price as everyone else.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/07/11 07:53 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

keep them coming everyone. im happy to see this good of a response.

Brunoboy

(Jesus Clips)

11/07/11 08:12 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Shane , you said if we have a spare key we can send it to you?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/07/11 08:47 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

yeah. it has to be an all metal one though. no plastic on the key at all

Jesh

(Member +)

11/07/11 09:29 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I'm in for two.

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Captn

(Crotchbaby)

11/07/11 09:59 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

add me too!

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/07/11 10:08 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I am Soo in!! Put me down for one =)

desant78

(Member ++)

11/07/11 10:22 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Can I pay now but get you the key later? Don't know if the vr4 is worth salvaging and might by another car soon. I really want this mod though and will be happy to pay now for a key in a few months

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

11/07/11 10:25 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting transparentdsm:

yeah. it has to be an all metal one though. no plastic on the key at all

I have this if needed.

Plus I'm also in on this GB... just let me know when and where to send some cash-ola.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/08/11 12:08 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

When will the deadline be to send the money? If long enough I'll take 3. But that would all depend on when the deadline is.

564vr4

(flob)

11/08/11 01:58 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Can I get put on this list for 2?

Chase

(Member)

11/08/11 02:36 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Id be interested in 1.

Brunoboy

(Jesus Clips)

11/08/11 02:59 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting transparentdsm:

yeah. it has to be an all metal one though. no plastic on the key at all

So one made at lowes is sufficient?

cbr900turbo

(Junior Member)

11/08/11 05:59 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I will take one as well.

4wheelsqueal

(Member +)

11/08/11 07:57 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

So are there's originally for the evo? And could u have one programmed for an evo?

coolclean577

(pcp pipefitter)

11/08/11 01:14 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

ill take one too.... let me know where to send money for one

Okayplayer

(Member +)

11/08/11 03:22 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Count me in for one.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/08/11 05:25 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC possibly 3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
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Dark_Horse

(Member +)

11/08/11 11:25 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC possibly 3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
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xaisomboun

(Member)

11/09/11 01:13 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Hey count me in! So you just send it as a blank flip key and we copy it ourselves right? 20 bucks aint too shabby for one of these!

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC possibly 3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun

dsmless

(gay without homosexual tendencies)

11/09/11 05:08 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Ill take one as well pm me were you need the money and key sent

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/09/11 10:10 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

ok everyone keep the list going. here is what im thinking im gonna do to save everyone hassle. im just going to buy blanks for the mit-1 key and make them and sell them like that. as long as everyone is ok with 20 bucks shipped and you have to get the key cut yourself. i love the response for this. im so happy people like my idea. im trying to sell my evo 8 ecu set up right now so i dont have to take money in advance. keep the list going. im going to cut off people on the 14th. after that no more orders, then the keys take about 2 weeks to get shipped to me and once i get the keys i will contact all the people on the list to get there info and send them my paypal info. think of it as a christmas gift. that is prolly when they will be getting to the people that order them. hope that isnt to long of a wait but its the best i can do right now as im moving into a new home this month.

dammitjim

(Member +)

11/09/11 10:29 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

How flat is the button side of the key? Would it be possible to fix the VR4 keychain to that side (tape/glue/etc) and have it look ok? Would it cover the buttons?

steve

(Key Fob Guy)

11/09/11 10:31 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Hey that's a nice replica keyfob, where'd ya get that???

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/09/11 10:38 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

i ordered an evo flip key replica, had a spare key made and boom it appeared in my hand like that.. hahaha. just kidding i made it myself. if you want pm and ill give you a detailed description of what i did.

steve

(Key Fob Guy)

11/09/11 11:02 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

lol wtf, I'm talking about the 1992 limited edition keyfob

mr.mitsu

(Member +++)

11/09/11 11:50 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Been there done it lol

Here's my how to:

click,All_Forums,&Words=%2Bkey%20%2Bflip&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&Main=1011727&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1011887

Sorry for the hi-jack

BPU925

(Member)

11/09/11 11:55 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC possibly 3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925

jnava

(Senior Member)

11/09/11 12:48 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

dammitjim

(Member +)

11/09/11 01:41 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting dammitjim:

How flat is the button side of the key? Would it be possible to fix the VR4 keychain to that side (tape/glue/etc) and have it look ok? Would it cover the buttons?

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/09/11 04:49 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Sweet, that means I can get 3 for sure now then.

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

11/09/11 05:12 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Count me in.

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC possibly 3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925
17. Jnava
18. G50trim92

WiSu

(Member ++)

11/09/11 06:35 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Add me to the list. And I will probably want three as well. ;]

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2. citymunky
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5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925
17. Jnava
18. G50trim92
19. IKyoungBumI x3

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/09/11 08:35 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x2
4. GSX_TC x3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
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12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925
17. Jnava
18. G50trim92
19. IKyoungBumI x3

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

11/09/11 11:19 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Im in for 1 for sure possibly 2. I have a key to send just pm me the address to send it to. Hella awsome idea I had no idea u could even make these

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/09/11 11:27 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Jesh

(Member +)

11/10/11 12:14 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

What the heck... I'll bump my order up to three.

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2. citymunky
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7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925
17. Jnava
18. G50trim92
19. IKyoungBumI x3
20. Galantvr4559 possibly 2

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

11/10/11 12:56 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I want one and ill wait to recieve a pm

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

11/10/11 12:58 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I need a 91 key chain tag

Brunoboy

(Jesus Clips)

11/10/11 01:33 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

key chains were made in another thread and in limited production, youd have to contact the person who did the group buy and see if he has anymore.

dammitjim

(Member +)

11/10/11 07:34 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Key fob thread - click

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/10/11 09:47 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

for those of you wanting more than one, no problem. but im going to need the money up front for those as im just trying to do a trial run and i want to buy 30 keys total. like i said write your name on the list as im not sending any pm's for these keys. i dont really have internet and im closing on my house soon.

BPU925

(Member)

11/10/11 10:18 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

when and where do we make payment to?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/10/11 11:51 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

the 15th is the last day im going to take any orders, so put yourself on the list. keep adding numbers and names and i will contact all people who are on the list to confirm orders and make payment arrangements. right now im doing al my interneting in my car at mcdonalds so its hard to respond to people. just get your name on the list and once the 15th comes i will stop the thread talk to everyone on the list and once im done making the keys for the listed people i will start again.

EgonOlsen

(Member +)

11/10/11 01:17 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

1. dammitjim
2. citymunky
3. Jesh x3
4. GSX_TC x3
5. 564vr4 x2
6. Chase
7. Captn
8. cbr900turbo
9. coolclean577
10. Okayplayer
11. brunoboy
12. desant78
13. Diego
14. Dark_Horse
15. Xaisomboun
16. BPU925
17. Jnava
18. G50trim92
19. IKyoungBumI x3
20. Galantvr4559 possibly 2
21. EgonOlsen x2 (we can talk later if there is extra shipping.)

HKS_VR4

(Newbie)

11/10/11 02:55 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Put me down for 1. Thanks

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

11/12/11 11:39 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I will take one. Let me know when and where to send.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/12/11 11:46 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

omertaitalia

(Member +)

11/12/11 01:05 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

id like one too, get paid next week shane so wont be able to pay until then

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/13/11 10:00 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

clark send me and email buddy we can work something out, to everyone else, after the 15th i will be sending everyone a pm as the order is already huge so i need everyone to prepay to get all the keys. also i spoke with a local key maker and he said that some places will cut the flip key and some places won't. so im thinking the key is gonna be 15 bucks and i will have everyone make as many copies as you pay for and i will cut the key and place them in the flip key and send them back.

maxash0775

(Member)

11/15/11 03:23 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Are you still taking orders? If so, put me down for one. Thanks

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

11/15/11 04:31 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

can these be made for a 2g dsm as well??? i you can pm me i want one

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/15/11 04:46 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

no more orders emailing people now. two guys above me i will pm you, sorry everyone else in the thread that didnt add there name to the list im to busy to read through all of it.

4Grim

(I deliver.)

11/15/11 09:19 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

When are you going to have another run on these again?

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

11/19/11 11:13 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Money sent for mine along with the key. I was curious if you could tell me how to crack one open so I can put my viper system guts inside so I can keep my auto syste on one key. Or could I send you my fob to do so.

Lmk

Diego

EgonOlsen

(Member +)

11/20/11 07:00 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

normally there are just some screws to take off to open.
I plan on doing the same for the keyless entry set I have with some other fobs.

Brunoboy

(Jesus Clips)

11/20/11 01:46 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

someone want to do a HOW TO on the remote switch over? I have remote start and keyless entry.

maxash0775

(Member)

11/21/11 01:15 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Just sent funds, will send key out tomorrow. Thanks again for doing this.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/23/11 10:49 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

hey everyone, order placed for the keys today. will keep everyone updated through the thread until its time to ship them out.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/09/11 07:07 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

so i got all of the flip keys in the mail yesterday and im going to start cutting keys up tomorrow so everyone can have these by christmas... will keep you all informed on what is happening... im also going to sell all my left overs with blanks in them for 35 dollars each once im all done...

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

12/09/11 02:37 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

12/09/11 09:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Just bumping for this question, (if you want to email me to keep this under wraps, that is cool).

What car did that key come out of? I have no intent on stealing your idea but I would like to actually buy from a junkyard all the electronics that actually make the buttons on the key work.

I can provide a write up assuming there is no crazy ass complications. Also I am already putting this in advance, I hold no responsibility for damages you do to your car. I already know how temperamental these GVR4 electronics are and since I have to replace and trace a few things (including power locks), I figured I might as well wire it in.

Plus, all those fancy alarm systems are nice but can't really do jack. A simple hidden kill switch is better and more effective. I already had to remove all that jazz that was in the Galant plus the 90s car cellular phone....or maybe I should re-install that....

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/10/11 05:53 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

no secrets here alan, its an evo 8 flip key, plus you already paid me i think and sent me your key. hahah even though your like 5 minutes from my shop. i am currently looking to do the same exact thing myself, i gound this one on ebay and for the price i may try to hack up the circuit board and make it fit. the auction is over click but this is the keyless entry i was going to use, i figured it would be easier to try it with a 35 dollar one instead of going to the junk yard, finding an evo and then taking all of the wiring and stuff out. let me know how it goes alan as i would love to do this to my car as well and once i get my vr4 running again, we should meet up somewhere and go for a drive...

stealthtt24

(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)

12/10/11 11:25 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Please let us know when you want to do another run, I'm in as well.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/15/11 12:59 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

for everyone who has paid, im going to start this week on making the keys. a lot of you sent me a key with a plastic end on it so im just going to order more blanks and everyone gets a blank key that they will have to cut, for the few people who sent me the right key i will make your keys in the flipper. after im done making them, i will put up an ad with how ever many i have left with blanks on them for sale on the page start to look around jan 1st or so

Chase

(Member)

12/15/11 05:31 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

My key is in the mail on the way. Its the all metal key.

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

12/15/11 09:17 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting transparentdsm:

no secrets here alan, its an evo 8 flip key, plus you already paid me i think and sent me your key. hahah even though your like 5 minutes from my shop. i am currently looking to do the same exact thing myself, i gound this one on ebay and for the price i may try to hack up the circuit board and make it fit. the auction is over click but this is the keyless entry i was going to use, i figured it would be easier to try it with a 35 dollar one instead of going to the junk yard, finding an evo and then taking all of the wiring and stuff out. let me know how it goes alan as i would love to do this to my car as well and once i get my vr4 running again, we should meet up somewhere and go for a drive...

Cool, I haven't sent you my key yet. I have to go make a copy but now that has me thinking. Maybe I can reprogram that evo 8 key for something easier....I will look into it after my finals.

Dasith

(I've never been to usa, but prostitution is probably legal there i think.)

12/17/11 04:58 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

im in for the next run.. for 2 items

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/17/11 05:51 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting alansupra94:

Quoting transparentdsm:

no secrets here alan, its an evo 8 flip key, plus you already paid me i think and sent me your key. hahah even though your like 5 minutes from my shop. i am currently looking to do the same exact thing myself, i gound this one on ebay and for the price i may try to hack up the circuit board and make it fit. the auction is over click but this is the keyless entry i was going to use, i figured it would be easier to try it with a 35 dollar one instead of going to the junk yard, finding an evo and then taking all of the wiring and stuff out. let me know how it goes alan as i would love to do this to my car as well and once i get my vr4 running again, we should meet up somewhere and go for a drive...

Cool, I haven't sent you my key yet. I have to go make a copy but now that has me thinking. Maybe I can reprogram that evo 8 key for something easier....I will look into it after my finals.

if you havent sent the key alan why dont you stop by the shop one day and drop the key off.

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

12/17/11 04:23 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I will let you know. Right now I have finals tell Wednesday and I believe I will be going to NC sometime next weekend as well to pick up some parts.

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

12/18/11 02:32 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

My key was sent out last week. did u get it?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/18/11 05:32 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

pretty sure it came in 2 days ago... i got one from someone in MN and they destroyed the letter and i had to send it back. i have a pile of unopened mail with a bunch of keys in them.

xaisomboun

(Member)

12/18/11 12:55 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Aw crap MN??? that might have been mine! WTF!

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/19/11 01:50 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

^ if it was yours, ill blank key it for you.

xaisomboun

(Member)

12/19/11 03:06 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

It probably was mine lol.. Do I just give the blank to a key cutter ?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/19/11 10:15 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

yeah you do, i was told most will cut it.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/19/11 10:17 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

also to everyone, its going to be more of a new years gift. i have been working about 14 hour day 7 days a week and haven't had time to make keys, but I'm going to spend christmas eve and christmas morning making them so i can send them out monday. sorry for the hold up, but i've been very busy with work.

564vr4

(flob)

12/22/11 08:28 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I understand, and THANKS! F-in work always gets in the way.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/26/11 03:54 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

hey everyone thats for being patient, i got myself in the eye with some metal on christmas eve and went out today got googles for it and started making them today. i have been paid for 20 keys in total and have made 3 as of now. i will be making 3 or 4 every day/ night and sending them out as soon as i can i am extremely sorry for taking so long on this and everyone is going to be getting blanks in there flippers because everytime i tried to cut a key up the key broke in half, i hope this is ok with everyone. i will also be sending back your broken or unused key with your new flip key. sorry for the long wait and thank you all for bearing with me.

maxash0775

(Member)

12/28/11 11:19 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Thanks for the update. Cant wait to get it and thanks for the hard work.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/05/12 06:09 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

hey everybody, ive been really busy with work, then i crushed my hand between a rear end and a backhoe loader and i actually distroyed the front of my vr4 when i hit a deer on sunday and i have been dealing with that since. im trying to work hard on getting them done and im sorry for the delays.. if anybody is unsatisfied with the time that it has been taking me please feel free to email me and ask for your money back and im movre than happy to refund you all. im so sorry for this but thus far the new year has brought me kinda bad luck and i have hurt myself at work every day since i hit the deer with my car.

Chase

(Member)

01/05/12 03:56 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Things happen man. I will get it when I get it. Take care of the stuff that you have to.

xaisomboun

(Member)

01/05/12 06:06 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

No problem bro! Work on fixing your stuff!

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/05/12 06:30 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Its not like I need the key yet anyways... I have tons of spare keys for my car...

Just keep living my friend!

maxash0775

(Member)

01/05/12 09:38 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Sorry for the bad luck bro. I will be looking forward to it when ever you get around to it. Thanks

564vr4

(flob)

01/17/12 05:39 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

How are things going? Has your luck turned around?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/17/12 07:00 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

things are getting better and im back to making keys again. i will be emailing everyone asking for an address to ship them as i finish up keys.

Turboman_456

(Junior Member)

01/20/12 12:44 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Are you taking orders?

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

01/20/12 11:23 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Good lord I still haven't remember to get a copy of the galant. I will definitely do it this weekend.

Thanks,
Alan

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/20/12 12:06 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

^ 2 months later and you NOW remember you were supposed to send him a key...
You will probably end up with a blank as he's sending them out already....

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

01/21/12 06:42 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Lol. Diego call me. Got some a tail light ass. And washer bottle and pump from justin today. I was contacted and my key is in the mail but havent checked the mail today. Cant wait to get it.

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/21/12 10:55 PM

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You got tail light ass? WTF does that even mean? I wonder if mine are in the mail as well, I'll see what your doing tomorrow.. come and help me button my car up tomorrow...

Oh and change your location...

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/22/12 04:52 AM

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deigo, i will be shipping yours out monday morning, i hope at least. we got a freak snow storm and i was busy at my car lot the last 3 days moving 60 some odd cars around my lot and back yard to make room for all the snow we got. 4 inches doesn't seem like shit until your plowing piles 10 feet high with no where for the snow to go and a lot more snow to move. haha

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/22/12 11:40 AM

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No problem... I'm not even sure my part of CO gets snow.... I never see it.

maxash0775

(Member)

01/22/12 12:59 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Just get a hair dryer and melt it. It worked in an episode of spongebob.

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

01/23/12 12:36 PM

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Diego headlight ass. Means assembly. And hoping to see my key today. So excited.

maxash0775

(Member)

01/23/12 07:25 PM

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Keys are shipping!

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

01/23/12 09:49 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

So im a little disapointed. I got my key tonight and opened it and got just a blank. I am a little confused. I sent a key so I wouldnt have to have it cut. I got a blank flip that doeant even flip. The key is not straight. And I never got my key back with my flip.

maxash0775

(Member)

01/24/12 12:56 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Anyone else had feedback on their key?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/24/12 04:36 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

if anyone is disappointed then please return the key to the return address on the package and i will return your money as soon as the key has been returned. sorry to anyone who is unhappy with there key. i tried my best.

mr.mitsu

(Member +++)

01/24/12 08:02 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

^you tried your best?

The previous poster didn't even have the key cut!!!
And it seems you kept the original too!

Not very good for business

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/24/12 10:06 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I really hope my OE key is coming back with my order....

BPU925

(Member)

01/24/12 10:22 AM

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got my key yesterday....love it!....now if only i could make the buttons functional for something cool?....lol

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/24/12 10:29 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Did you get your OE key back as well?

BPU925

(Member)

01/24/12 10:31 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

well original post said to send a blank key...so thats wat i sent him

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/24/12 10:42 AM

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Quoting transparentdsm:

ill do them for 20 shipped with a brand new blank mit-1 inserted in the flip key, what im trying to do is get enough people together that want them then you guys send me the money so i can buy all the flip keys and all the blank keys then ill cut them and put them together then send you back a evo flip key. thats why i want to get 15 people to do it so i can get a deal on the flip key. there like 15$ and then the blank is like 3-5$

Re-read that again... from the first page, his second post... they were supposed to be cut if you sent your key to him...

@BPU: I'm sure yours was blank, because you miss read and sent him a blank... you were to send your OE key so that when he was done they were to be cut.. You can't just use 1 key for all the keys..

Diego

BPU925

(Member)

01/24/12 10:57 AM

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Ohhhhhh........old man eyes.....lol

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

01/24/12 11:31 AM

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Quoting BPU925:

got my key yesterday....love it!....now if only i could make the buttons functional for something cool?....lol

I am working on something but am pretty busy. I still haven't sent my damn keys out! I gotta remember!

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

01/24/12 02:00 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

So I am sorry for goin off a little. I am going to a key shop to have im put a key for my car in my flip. I dint care of the cost I just want to be able to use my .flip key. I was a little upset at first because I didnt get my key cut and put in the flip. No worries. I miss read the post.

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

01/24/12 02:03 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I believe what his plan was, was to get all metal keys for each key purchaser for their cars and cut that key and install it in the flip. Sorry for the missunderstanding.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/25/12 06:48 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting mr.mitsu:

^you tried your best?

The previous poster didn't even have the key cut!!!
And it seems you kept the original too!

Not very good for business

im not a business, im one person and he prolly got one of the first 3 keys i ever made before i decided to changed my procedure. i didnt keep anyone original key, if he key broke on me i threw it in the garbage. if you get your key back then i didnt brake it, just decided to not use it because it wasn't working. and yes i tried my best. its what people do when there trying to help out a bunch of other people with something there doing for the first time. also you never sent me money nor did you ask for a key so please keep your comment to yourself. as i stated before if anyone is unhappy please tell me i will refund your money as soon as i receive your key back or if i haven't sent it i will just send you the money. im not a bad guy or a con artist or anything. just one person trying to do something i thought was cool and make it available for everyone else who liked my idea.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/25/12 06:51 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

also key making has stopped again for a few days as i hit another dear last night in NY state and when i called to have it cleaned off the road the cop asked for my license and it turns out i have a suspended license in the state of NY and i went to jail last night and got one of the cars from my business impounded. i have way to much to figure out. i will try to resume making them this sunday as i have to get this all cleared up.

Redwood

(wannabe king of rednecks)

01/25/12 12:25 PM

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cool cool r u still taking keys to be made???? i would like to get one if u r

stealthtt24

(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)

01/25/12 02:08 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

For the love of god read the post above yours. It is an obvious no as he has a lot of shit on his plate.

maxash0775

(Member)

01/25/12 09:04 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Hey Transparentdsm. I am sorry to hear about your troubles. i have been there done that. I know you have a lot on your plate so let me help you out. Just send me the empty shell and my original cut key and I will do it myself. I have no problem with that. I would be more than happy to take it off your plate. I also made it easy and sent you a prestamped and self addressed envelope when I sent you my key. Let me know when it goes out. Thanks

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/25/12 09:42 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

maxash your key was to be sent out on monday, but all that happened and the key is in impound with my car as of right now. there is a blank inserted and your key should be in the package or maybe it broke and got thrown out. regardless i will be sending them out tomorrow or the day after, once i get the car back. its been rough with changing cars every three days and then getting arrested for trying to make the roads safe and calling in the dear hit.(still cant get over being arrested while standing outside the car for a suspended license) oh and found out today that the reason i got arrested was because i got 2 tickets 4 years ago that were over 6 points in total and they never even sent me anything about it....i had to pay 500$ to get a clear license and there were no extra surcharges for being late. it was called a driver assesment fee. 500$ for no reason at all. i love my life sometimes. 2012 your the best.

maxash0775

(Member)

01/29/12 02:32 AM

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Just got flip key (could have been sooner, only check mail once a week). All I can say is WOW, what a great job. Worth the wait. I didn't realize how heavy the flip key was. It is top quality. The flip action works great no issues and I got my original key back. I know some others might get mad at me for saying this but I have no issue paying for quality work and you could have charged double and that still would be a good deal IMHO. Thanks, and I hope all your troubles are worked out soon.

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/30/12 01:42 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Recieved mine as well, great work as well.
-newer task is trying to get a little board in there for the keyless.. I have a viper keyless (but its an odd shaped triangular contraption), and the board won't fit. An all in one functioning key/alarm fob and ditching the viper fob would be nice.

Ideas?

Great job, Shane.

Diego

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/30/12 02:08 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

hey guys super glad your happy with your keys, sorry it took so long. also i have some really bad news. i crashed my vr4 this morning taking her out for one last spin before i was going to pull my motor today. and it was literly one last spin. i hit gravel and the car slid straight into a rock and some trees and about 80 mph and all i have to say is im thankful to be alive. fractured my collar bone and broke the seatbelt out of the car but im perfectly fine. no police report, no tickets. car is back at my house and no one and nothing was hurt except my car i mean. i will take some pictures tomorrow of the car and how bad it is. i think the motor still starts, i just have to reconnect the battery tomorrow to move it back a few feet in my driveway. 2012 has been real rough so far. so im pulling the car apart and will be selling most of the parts off of it, but will be keeping a lot as im going to buy a shell and start all over. so anyone in the tri-state area with a cheap clean shell for sale please get in touch with me as i need one.

stealthtt24

(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)

01/30/12 10:33 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

You have the worst luck ever. Good luck getting back on your feet.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/30/12 10:39 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

so you need any parts at all?

HKS_VR4

(Newbie)

01/30/12 04:56 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Got my key today. Looks good and matches my Audi keys too.

Thanks again Transparent

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/30/12 08:59 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

good im happy everyone else is super happy with there keys and im glad im going to be fixing the one key that one person was unsatisfied with the key.

spooln4fun

(Junior Member)

01/30/12 09:16 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Are you still able to do these? I would be interested in one. If you could pm with details or post a reply?
Thanks
Matt

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/30/12 09:28 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

right now im working on finishing up the last 10 or so keys that i have to make but as of right now im not making anything as i totaled my vr4 and fractured my clavicle in the accident. i need to get better.

Chase

(Member)

01/30/12 11:44 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Can't wait until I get mine haha.

Chase

(Member)

01/30/12 11:45 PM

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Get better soon man. Never fun breaking or fracturing anything.

xaisomboun

(Member)

01/30/12 11:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

You know its serious when you fracture something I've never even heard of.

Get well soon dude!

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

01/31/12 12:15 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

^you must have not been extreme enough if you were a; snowboarder,skier,bmx,skate,blade,wake,surf, Ect...

Get well Shane

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

02/12/12 08:41 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Sending my key back tomorrow to get repaired i am sending a cut key for my car. Thanks again transparent i love the key. When you get the flip key back you will see why i was unhappy.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

02/12/12 08:46 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Quoting Diego:

^you must have not been extreme enough if you were a; snowboarder,skier,bmx,skate,blade,wake,surf, Ect...

Get well Shane

hahahaha diego right on brotha, i have broken my clavicle like 6 times.... thats one of the first broken bones ive had. been skateboarding since i was 10. hahah

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

02/27/12 03:36 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

all orders have been filled. and i have 10 keys left that i need to sell, only thing price is going up and a lot. i need 45 dollars a key, as doing them for 15 cost me money after going out to buy a bunch of new tools to make the keys way nicer and the fact that shipping went up and the package to send the key cost me 2 dollars. so if anyone is interested PM me about a key. once these sell i will get another batch and start again if everyone still wants more. im hoping that after these 10 are gone i can lower the price back to a reasonable 30-35 a key and make a bunch more. also if a moderator reads this please contact me i have saved one key on the side to be made for an auction to help fund the site.

have 10 left over for sale. PM me with a request and i will start removing the keys i have left till i hit 0.

once that is done i will make an order for more keys and then i will make them and start a for sale thread again.

460GVR4

(Junior Member)

02/27/12 11:07 PM

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Payment sent. Funny buying things like this for a car that's not running

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

02/28/12 04:21 AM

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hey man i just bought a evo 3 gt 16g turbo for my galant and it has rod knock and a cracked exhaust manifold... the things we do for the cars we love... sending out your key tomorrow.

Chase

(Member)

02/29/12 02:13 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Got mine today. Thanks again.

Galantvr4559

(Member +)

03/01/12 05:21 AM

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Got my key today looks awesome works awesome. Thanks again.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/01/12 05:56 AM

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thank you everyone. please leave feedback in my goodguy thread.

Diego

(Mad Hatter Suite Touche Debackle Guage filled by Justin)

03/01/12 10:06 AM

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Shane, if I send you my key back with a metal key could you install it or just give me the info on how to install it. Went to get my key cut and it shaved down the 2 tiny knobs, so it wont work in my ignition... Stupid key cutter.

/Diego

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/01/12 10:17 AM

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yeah for sure diego. if you still have my new PA address send it there and once i get it i will take care of everything for you.

Okayplayer

(Member +)

03/02/12 03:37 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Got my key today, thanks for the work, it turned out pretty damn cool. Appreciate you doing this...

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/03/12 05:52 AM

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^ not a problem and im glad you happy.

Also to everyone on this board or who reads this thread. if you have a key for a car that isnt a mitsubishi and you want your key to be a flip key let me know. i can always make an order for like a honda or a hyunda or toyota or whatever car company you have and make you a key for that as well. just let me know if your interested. the non-mitsubishi keys will be special order and take a bit longer to make. just a thought for everyone who liked the key.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/03/12 08:31 AM

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also only 8 keys left.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/09/12 04:41 AM

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still have 9 keys, but waiting payment on 3 of the keys...

stealthtt24

(Holy deer monkey donkey balls looking for a pole)

03/09/12 09:43 AM

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Gonna have to back out for now.... Got injured off the job and out of work for months

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/09/12 10:35 AM

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oh man, im really sorry to hear, get better and i hope all is well. i know how that can go.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/14/12 07:33 AM

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i have got 6 more keys and i just found 5 more in a different box while i was unpacking. now i have promised one of these keys to the Forum to be sold off in a raffle to help support the .ORG and then i was thinking i may keep 3 or 4 for myself, but this means i do not have to buy more yet. price drop to 40 a key shipped, but still 35 for 2 or more keys. hope this gets rid of these.

alansupra94

(Excuse the retarded question.)

03/14/12 07:47 AM

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Got the key and it is great!

I will be working on figuring out how to make the unlock and lock keys work.

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

03/19/12 03:35 AM

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Duuude i told u i wanted one like weeks ago

i need one whats ur paypal

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/19/12 07:01 AM

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hey were you in middletown on dolson ave the other day.....

460GVR4

(Junior Member)

03/20/12 09:35 PM

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received mine while ago, took it to home depot they cut it for free and works perfectly. thanks for good work, i feel like it replaces the cool points i lost from quitting smoking cigarettes

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/20/12 10:08 PM

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thank you for the kind words.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/23/12 06:08 AM

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6 keys left, at 40$ a key. buy 2 or more for 30$ a piece.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/24/12 07:46 PM

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4 keys left....

Chase

(Member)

03/25/12 04:08 PM

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Mailing mine tomorrow for that replacement.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

03/31/12 06:38 AM

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4 keys left everyone, price drop again. 35$ shipped... this is as low as there going to get.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

04/07/12 05:59 AM

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well im down to the last two keys... who is gonna buy them...

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

06/09/12 09:30 AM

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bump, just sold one more, last key

VR4_1752

(Member)

06/09/12 10:35 AM

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I will take the last one.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

06/10/12 12:05 AM

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I want one still, am I too late?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

06/10/12 12:49 PM

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no keys left thank you everyone.

boostedbeast

(Newbie)

10/24/12 08:34 PM

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Are you going to be making more anytime soon? Cause i am interested in 2. If you do please contact me

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

10/24/12 08:49 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Ok so at M.O.D. in jersey i was asked to make another run... If people are interested i am opening this thread back up.... place orders, only 5$ prepay regardless of number of keys bought.. just start a list. i will keep it open for three weeks. November 14th is the cut off date and when the prepay is due. I will then buy everything i need and will have them all made before contacting every person for final payment and shipment details.

1. boostedbeast - 2

LIV4PSI

(dyslexic 1051 )

10/24/12 09:46 PM

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1. boostedbeast - 2
2. LIV4PSI

I was just talking about this tonight. My car didn't even come with an original Mitsu key, so I have wanted to replace it since day one. I just bought my replica key FOB, now I will have a cool key to go with it.

PlatypusOfFury

(Junior Member)

10/25/12 12:56 AM

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I'm down with this

1. boostedbeast - 2
2. LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys

JamesFoster

(Infamous BMX Master)

10/25/12 02:47 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Im in.

dustyduff

(Member +)

10/25/12 08:40 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Quoting transparentdsm:

Ok so at M.O.D. in jersey i was asked to make another run...

You can put me down for one.

MellowVR4

(5" too short)

10/25/12 10:31 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

im down for one please.

PlatypusOfFury

(Junior Member)

10/25/12 04:11 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Start a list guys

1: boostedbeast - 2
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys
4: JamesFoster
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4

coolclean577

(pcp pipefitter)

10/25/12 04:38 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I would like one . Send me PayPal info

desant78

(Member ++)

10/25/12 04:38 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Shane, I'm in. Thanks for doing this again!

1: boostedbeast - 2
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys
4: JamesFoster
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LordAthey

(Almost Runs E85)

10/25/12 04:47 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I'm in as well!!

1: boostedbeast - 2
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys
4: JamesFoster
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey

Defiant

(Definitely? Defiantly? wat)

10/25/12 04:52 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

1: boostedbeast - 2
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys
4: JamesFoster
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant

4wheelsqueal

(Member +)

10/25/12 05:01 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Would actually like one for my evo. Can these be programmed at a dealer to work on an evo? Let me know. Thanks!

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

10/25/12 06:17 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

there is no computer chip in these...

Racah15

(Member +)

10/25/12 11:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Mark me down for one!

Xfactor

(Newbie)

10/26/12 12:38 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Count me in!!
1: boostedbeast - 2
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2keys
4: JamesFoster
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor

JamesFoster

(Infamous BMX Master)

10/26/12 12:52 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Oh, I want two keys as well...

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

10/27/12 02:03 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Thanx 4 bringin back Bro! I've added myself to the list

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi

gotclutch87

(Junior Member)

10/27/12 12:29 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

im in for this

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87

Xfactor

(Newbie)

10/29/12 07:48 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

How or who do we pay?

Racah15

(Member +)

10/29/12 07:58 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

coolclean577

(pcp pipefitter)

10/30/12 11:45 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

jasonvr4

(Junior Member)

10/30/12 02:59 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

solidviper89

(Patty Purex)

10/30/12 03:14 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

10/31/12 09:17 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

payment will be made to me on nov. 13, a deposit of 5 dollars is required and then after i have finished making all the keys i will contact everyone again for final payment. the keys are 40 dollars a ley or 35 for 2 or more keys.

Spyder

(I only have like 400 posts.... )

10/31/12 09:22 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I would like a key as well. Thanks.

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys
17. Spyder 1 key

91_427

(Member)

11/04/12 03:26 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I need two keys please! Thanks.

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys
17. Spyder 1 key
18. 91_427 2 keys

matt92vr4

(Member ++)

11/04/12 05:27 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Did you get that audiovox keyless entry working?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/05/12 08:29 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

should be getting the keyless entry today and will let everyone know as soon as i can. 9 days left to get your name on the list and place the order.

91_427

(Member)

11/05/12 11:47 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

^^^^ What is your paypal account? What other information do you need?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/05/12 12:24 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

on the 13th i will contact each member individually to get information and handle all money details. thanks everyone.

Redwood

(wannabe king of rednecks)

11/05/12 03:54 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

ill take one

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys
17. Spyder 1 key
18. 91_427 2 keys
19. Redwood

4Grim

(I deliver.)

11/05/12 04:08 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Put me down for 2 keys

14of2000

(Member)

11/06/12 08:22 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

matt92vr4

(Member ++)

11/06/12 11:25 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/10/12 09:33 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

3 more days left if anyone is interested...

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/12/12 12:29 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

closing the thread tomorrow night when i get home from work at 7 or so, just want everyone who may want one to have a chance at getting it. everyone on the list i will contact you after i have closed the thread.

Turboman_456

(Junior Member)

11/12/12 10:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Hey I would like one please!

rmontalvo23

(Senior Member)

11/13/12 02:56 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Please add me to the list. I would like one also.

pm me or email [email protected]

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/13/12 09:14 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

here is the final list. no one else can add there name. i plan on buying a rounded number so i will be getting 40 of these keys, leaving 6 left over keys that i will sell once i finish everyone elses order, so please don't ask. expect a PM from me on thursday if your name is on the list and make sure to have your 5 dollar deposits ready. im not sure when i will be able to ship them, but i will keep everyone posted. i hope to have every single key made andz sent out by/before christmas.

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys
17. Spyder 1 key
18. 91_427 2 keys
19. Redwood
20.14of2000 2 keys
21. 4Grim 2 keys
22. matt92vr4 1 key
23. rmontalvo23
24. Turboman_456

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/19/12 10:29 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Hey me and BPU925 bought ours from you a long time ago and still can't figure out where to get this key cut. We have tried every place there is like ace, wal Mart, home depot and even various key cutting places.

So my question to you is where can we have this flip key cut?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/19/12 06:37 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

i dont know your area, in my area i can get it done at home depot or anything like that. did you try a locksmith place... this is the reason i wanted people to send me precut keys the first time, but that got to be confusing and some of the keys that were sent broke while cutting them.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/19/12 11:33 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Haven't tried a locksmith place but I think bpu925 already has. I guess I'll just try another home depot location and a bit more places and just hope for the best.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/20/12 06:48 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

if not send me a pm and i will work something out with you guys.

GSX_TC

(295hp 35r BR4)

11/20/12 07:41 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Will do, thanks man.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

11/22/12 07:43 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

just placed the order for the keys, so far i have recieved deposits from 18 members. 6 of you have forgotten to pay me. please do so soon. i will keep you all updated as to the progress.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/06/12 08:40 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

got the keys in today, i will be starting to make the keys on this sunday. and then my next day off, next thursday i will be in virginia picking up 1078

matt92vr4

(Member ++)

12/06/12 09:04 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Cool! Have fun with the atx. They are awesome! Any progress on the keyless entry?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/06/12 09:23 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

as of now no, the one i bought is too big but im looking for a new one and im going to get measurements before i buy this time. i will keep everyone posted on that through the how to thread once i find a suitable unit.

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

12/06/12 09:31 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I'm in if someone drops out.

boostedbeast

(Newbie)

12/09/12 10:40 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I got my 2 deposits paid sorry bout being late. Hope I got them in in time.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/14/12 03:30 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

ok so i have received all the keys a few days ago and i started to make the keys as of right now i have 9 keys finished, i hope to get 15 more done, if not the rest, by monday. on monday i will be emailing all the people that paid me to there email address at that time i will need your full name and shipping address the number of keys you ordered and you name on the forum so i can get the keys to the people who piad for them and sell whatever keys i have left over.

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

12/14/12 03:36 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

How can I be put on a list to get one of the leftover keys

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/14/12 03:41 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

your the first on the list for left overs actually.

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

12/14/12 04:03 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

w00h00

MellowVR4

(5" too short)

12/14/12 04:40 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

i almost forgot about this lol.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/24/12 10:50 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

all keys are made and ready to be shipped

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys
2: LIV4PSI
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys - paid and sent
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor - paid and sent
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15 - paid and sent
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys
16. Solidviper89- 2keys - paid and sent
17. Spyder 1 key - paid and sent
18. 91_427 2 keys
19. Redwood - paid and sent
20.14of2000 2 keys
21. 4Grim 2 keys
22. matt92vr4 1 key
23. rmontalvo23 - paid and sent
24. Turboman_456

for everyone else im still waiting on payment.

se7enine

(Member +)

12/24/12 01:57 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I'm down for left overs if you get any.

PlatypusOfFury

(Junior Member)

12/24/12 02:09 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Awesome!

still itching to see the Keyless Entry How-To you started with one of these.

matt92vr4

(Member ++)

12/24/12 03:52 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Please PM me how much I owe and what your paypal is. Or you can post in this thread. thanks!

-Matt

JamesFoster

(Infamous BMX Master)

12/24/12 07:02 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Same here, what do I owe you?

jasonvr4

(Junior Member)

12/25/12 09:32 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

What do I owe you plus shipping to
Sydney Australia 2213

Thank jasonvr4

LIV4PSI

(dyslexic 1051 )

12/25/12 11:58 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Quoting JamesFoster:

Same here, what do I owe you?

They were $40 for the first, and $35 for second. So $75 minus your downpayment of $5-$10 I think.

Sent my payment today

boostedbeast

(Newbie)

12/27/12 03:47 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Same here what do i owe you? 2 keys and 2 $5 deposits in already... i think it said something about 2 or more $35 so $70 minus my $10 in deposts make $60 i owe you correct?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/27/12 06:34 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

everyone has been PM'ed and as for the keyless entry, its winter now so all VR4 stuff is kinda on hold till summer plus the VR4 that the keyless entry to work with this key is going in is sitting in my shed till spring when the roads are nice again.

boostedbeast

(Newbie)

12/28/12 04:08 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Mine is Paid in full can't wait to get them...

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/31/12 10:30 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Quoting transparentdsm:

all keys are made and ready to be shipped

1: boostedbeast - 2 keys - paid and sent
2: LIV4PSI - paid and sent
3: PlatypusOfFury - 2 keys - paid and sent
4: JamesFoster - 2 keys - paid and sent
5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
7. desant78 - paid and sent
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
10.Xfactor - paid and sent
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
13.Racah15 - paid and sent
14.coolclean577
15. Jasonvr4 - 4 keys - paid and sent
16. Solidviper89- 2keys - paid and sent
17. Spyder 1 key - paid and sent
18. 91_427 2 keys
19. Redwood - paid and sent
20.14of2000 2 keys
21. 4Grim 2 keys
22. matt92vr4 1 key - paid and sent
23. rmontalvo23 - paid and sent
24. Turboman_456

for everyone else im still waiting on payment.

Defiant

(Definitely? Defiantly? wat)

12/31/12 12:13 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I get paid Friday. I'll send the payment then.

PlatypusOfFury

(Junior Member)

01/01/13 02:12 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Got mine, like it:)

The actual Mitsu shop was going to do the key grind for free, but they needed some special retainer pin removal tool for getting the key off of the enclosure.
cause of that, they gave me a key that's off the coded stamp. way nicer to have one that's not beat to crap to copy off of later.

boostedbeast

(Newbie)

01/07/13 04:42 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Got mine today!!! Love them had them cut 10 mins after getting them they work great!! thank you

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/07/13 04:48 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

very glad that your happy, now put those kind words in the good guy section if you dont mind. haha

jasonvr4

(Junior Member)

01/08/13 07:42 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Great, Got mine today

Arrived in Sydney Australia with nil issues
Will get them cut ASAP

Thanks again
Jasonvr4

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/16/13 04:28 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

5: DustyDuff
6: MellowVr4
8. LordAthey
9. Defiant
11.DarkEaglTSi
12.gotclutch87
14.coolclean577
18. 91_427 2 keys
20.14of2000 2 keys
21. 4Grim 2 keys
24. Turboman_456

everyone on this list, you need to send me a pm within the 5 days. i have PM'ed everyone in the start to get money and then emailed everyone that has left me a deposit and now i need these paid for or finihsed being paid for. 7 people have left deposits, but in 6 days i will be selling all the left overs that weren't paid for or finished being paid for on a first come first serve basis. once all of them are sold the people who left me deposits will be refunded, but not till i sell all of the keys i have left over. i have about 16 or 17 keys left. so if you are on this list PM me if you arent on this list and want one of the keys please wait till i make my next post. i will not respond to people who aren't on this list. your PM we be deleted without being read.

Racah15

(Member +)

01/17/13 12:54 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I would like to thank you for the key. It works great. Kinda bulky feel when turning off the car, but it sure does look badass. Haha.

Anywho, I would like to add that not everyplace will cut the key. I went to 3 different Keysmiths and Homedepot (don't even bother with wal-mart) and no one would cut the key. I last resort called my local mitsubishi dealership and they took on the challenge. They are a smaller dealership so they decided to give it a try. It works great and I got a hell of a deal for price. So if you guys can't find any, try your local mitsubishi dealership.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/18/13 10:17 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

thank you so much for your input, im in the north jersey area and everyplace around here will do it.

unistylef

(Member)

01/18/13 11:29 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

Is it too late to get one for myself?

**DONOTDELETE**

(Unregistered)

01/18/13 12:02 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

I would like one too!

Sparksdude10

(Newbie)

01/18/13 03:28 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

me too!! I just became a proud owner!

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/22/13 10:18 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

ok, so i have like 18 or so keys left. 40 dollars a key, first come first serve, everyone that has already left me a deposit you will get the deposit back after i sell all the keys, so if you want one send me a PM and i will give you my paypal information. thank you everyone.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

01/29/13 10:21 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

4 keys have been paid for and sent. i have 14 keys left. send me a PM if you would like when, they are completed and ready to be shipped.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

02/07/13 02:52 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

bump, 9 keys left.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

02/11/13 01:19 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- 10 left

6 keys left.

vr4210

(Junior Member)

02/12/13 07:03 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I will take two please, touch base with me thanks!

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/27/19 08:42 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I found one of my old flip keys in a drawer the other day and it made me want another one. So I'm thinking if making a run of these, is anyone interested??

I haven't looked into prices, but I'm hoping I can get, make and sell them for the same $40 a key I was selling them before.

Let me know if there is interest and I will make a short run of these again.

DTinker187

(Newbie)

12/28/19 11:09 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

still doing these?

kdott96

(Junior Member)

12/29/19 03:09 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Interested!

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

12/29/19 05:47 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

So as of right now it looks like I won't be making any more until I can find an outlet for purchasing the flip key unit. All I can find are knockoffs that do not have the Mitsubishi logo on them nor do they come with the little sticker to cover the screw in the back.

Terrance362

(needs moar imput)

01/02/20 05:45 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Well I�m interested if you do them again

AllanL

(Heal and Toe)

01/02/20 11:01 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

i'll need 2 or 3...

gs300cky

(Junior Member)

01/03/20 11:02 AM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

I will take one as well when you do them again

Gvr4-330

(I feel of the short bus)

02/13/20 12:28 PM

Re: FEELER: evo flip key 15$- custom

Sorry to threadjack, but I had posted some keyless entry systems for sale with flip keys if anyone is interested. Different style than the ones in this thread though. And only one set of them have the Mitsu logos.

click

91GVR4#479

(Senior Member)

05/09/20 01:10 AM

Re: FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

I'm interested in 1 or 2 for sure if you do them again.
Thx.

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

05/09/20 08:55 AM

Re: FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

still working on finding a solution here. i cant seem to find any evo x flip keys anywhere. im probably going to start trying to source a new flip key for it and try to make something for galant owners only.

vr4g63tcs

(Newbie)

08/21/20 02:29 PM

Re: FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

NICE. I would be interested in one or two keys for sure.

boostme

(Junior Member)

08/21/20 04:55 PM

Re: FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

Can the buttons be made to work?

transparentdsm

(I have to say something dumb Member)

09/10/20 12:49 PM

Re: FOR SALE: evo flip key reopened!!! 40$ shipped 35$ for 2 or more

still havent found something i like and with this covid stuff its hard to source anything.

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