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How not to clean a block deck, or the worst block I ever had to surface.

BogusSVO

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I just had to take pics of this and post.

What some people do to cheap out on a build.

Take one Honda D16Y6 block and add a cheapskate and mix in one 4" side grinder.

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The HG surface of the block, Keep in mind this engine runs a factory MLS HG.

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Closer view
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So I get the block set up, and leveled the best I could.

I spray the block deck with blue lay out dye.
My first pass is .0005, just to check set up and level.
I have checked for a front to back taper, about .005

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Set up is good, lets see how bad it is.

Cut .0015 total .002

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Cut .0015 total cut .0035
Cut .002 total .0055
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Cut .0025 total .008
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Its coming in, but it is still has low in spots.

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After cutting a total of .012 this is what I was left with.
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He has a coolant leak into #4 cylinder, and a miss on 2 others.

He chose this weapon to clean his HG surface because he was having a few issues with HG reside and was in a hurry.

This should help the compression some.


So the moral of this story is... Do not clean your head gasket surface with the same equipment you use for smoothing welds!
 

EHmotorsports

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At the dealership a lot of techs would use the 3M scotchbrite pads with the small zip grinder. They always used to give me crap about using cleaner and a razor blade to take any gasket off as it would take me twice as long to clean the surface. funny thing is I never had a comeback i say it payed off;)
 

EfiniX

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This type of care and attention EXACTLY why EHMotorsports is installing the head that BogusSVO is sending me. These two guys are legit.
 

prove_it

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As long as you don't gouge the surface with the blade. I've used 3m bristle cleaners for 10yrs and 100 some hg jobs with no comebacks. Scotchbrite is a big no no. It can leave particles in the oil that can plug up oil passages or ruin bearings. I do use a razor to clean up the big chunks of gasket, but with MLS you usally don't have that.

I can't believe some one used a grinder on the block. Some people's kids.


Quoting EHmotorsports:
At the dealership a lot of techs would use the 3M scotchbrite pads with the small zip grinder. They always used to give me crap about using cleaner and a razor blade to take any gasket off as it would take me twice as long to clean the surface. funny thing is I never had a comeback i say it payed off;)

 

BogusSVO

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There are many ways to clean a block deck. This is the method I use. There are methods that are better and worse.

The best method to use is the one that works for you, and that doesn't case a sealing issue or comeback.
 
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